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Post by plasticpepper on Mar 9, 2011 22:05:34 GMT -5
Hullo, clue detectives! ;D I've been meaning to do this for ages and now it's taken me so long to get around to it that I'm sure nobody is actually looking at this board anymore...but now that our clues are over with I wanted to post a few things that might be interesting or encouraging...or that might be helpful to next year's clue-solving (assuming there are clues again).
So here are some parting thoughts on this year's round of clues:
We had 11 clues this year, and we solved 7 of them (although #1 is a bit of a special case). I think that's pretty good!
Those 7 clues that we solved were the first 7. So the 4 unsolved ones...I don't think were impossible at all, it's just that we ran out of time and the lineup dropped before we solved them. Gary was great about continually giving us hints when we hadn't solved clues, so I don't think there really are any clues that are too hard - if a clue turns out to be harder than they expected then we just end up needing more hints to solve it.
Our 7 solved clues were first correctly guessed by karosko, spikejonze, JHOinTN, monkeymonkeyjoyjoy, Conway, brett89, and me - congrats and thank you to our successful clue sleuths!
Beirut was the highest-billed act we got a clue for, at 26, and Karen Elson was the lowest, at 85 (with only 4 acts below her on the initial lineup). Even up until 2010 we had clues for big acts including headliners, but not this year. We've already been dubious of big-name guesses on the assumption that most clues would be for lower acts, but if this year's clues are any indication we should probably be even more suspicious of big-name guesses in the future.
All of our clue acts were "big" enough to have Wikipedia entries. We've occasionally found bands through Google research that seemed to fit the clues but were really small bands with just Myspace pages to go by, but it seems like we don't need to worry about the answers being anything that obscure.
And the rest of this is just based off of the 7 clues we managed to solve:
Almost all of them were either the accepted answers or at least the front-runners for their respective clues by the time the lineup dropped. Clue #1 is a bit of a special case because Gary apparently missed Opeth when he went through the thread, so there was some confusion as to whether or not it was ruled out, but even so it mostly ended up being the front runner. So that means that even though nobody is allowed to confirm answers, we still basically ended up knowing what the correct answers were for each clue. They really do count as solved!
As far as I know, only one (Kylesa) was already known to be playing at the time they were guessed. The other 6 solved clues all gave us information we wouldn't otherwise have had.
Only two involved any sort of remotely obscure information - these clues really aren't a Google treasure hunt or anything like that. They're riddles, not tests of your trivia knowledge or your Google skills or anything else. And the answers aren't NEARLY as convoluted as some of our guesses!
6 out of the 7 involved some information about the band - album titles, song titles, band member names, locations, stuff like that. BUT not a single clue required any information about the band/artist that you couldn't find on their Wikipedia entry. So they don't require any of us to know anything obscure about the bands/artists themselves, either.
There were no anagrams whatsoever involved this year. Anagrams are something that we've tried a LOT in our clue-solving, so I thought it might be interesting/helpful to know that none of the clues we solved this year had anything to do with anagrams.
Alrighty, that's all I've got! Sorry that was so long, I just thought I'd share some of these things I noticed that I found interesting. Some of this I just thought might be useful for future reference, some of it I thought might serve as a little encouragement.
I know a lot of people have either lost interest in the clues this year or just thought they were dumb all along, but I really do think we had a pretty good track record as far as solving them this year. They're not impossibly difficult, and we really did solve several of them and learn about acts on the lineup we wouldn't otherwise have known about.
((And I'll say again what I've said before: if you're not interested, that's all well and dandy, but if that's the case then get out of our clue board and stop posting in here just to be negative about the clues! ))
Oh, and by the way, I finally got around to getting the website up to date - I kinda doubt anyone has paid it any attention since the lineup dropped, but just in case all the clues, hints, and answers should be up now. Sorry it took so long!
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Hullo, clue detectives! ;D I've been meaning to do this for ages and now it's taken me so long to get around to it that I'm sure nobody is actually looking at this board anymore...but now that our clues are over with I wanted to post a few things that might be interesting or encouraging...or that might be helpful to next year's clue-solving (assuming there are clues again).
So here are some parting thoughts on this year's round of clues:
We had 11 clues this year, and we solved 7 of them (although #1 is a bit of a special case). I think that's pretty good!
Those 7 clues that we solved were the first 7. So the 4 unsolved ones...I don't think were impossible at all, it's just that we ran out of time and the lineup dropped before we solved them. Gary was great about continually giving us hints when we hadn't solved clues, so I don't think there really are any clues that are too hard - if a clue turns out to be harder than they expected then we just end up needing more hints to solve it.
Our 7 solved clues were first correctly guessed by karosko, spikejonze, JHOinTN, monkeymonkeyjoyjoy, Conway, brett89, and me - congrats and thank you to our successful clue sleuths!
Beirut was the highest-billed act we got a clue for, at 26, and Karen Elson was the lowest, at 85 (with only 4 acts below her on the initial lineup). Even up until 2010 we had clues for big acts including headliners, but not this year. We've already been dubious of big-name guesses on the assumption that most clues would be for lower acts, but if this year's clues are any indication we should probably be even more suspicious of big-name guesses in the future.
All of our clue acts were "big" enough to have Wikipedia entries. We've occasionally found bands through Google research that seemed to fit the clues but were really small bands with just Myspace pages to go by, but it seems like we don't need to worry about the answers being anything that obscure.
And the rest of this is just based off of the 7 clues we managed to solve:
Almost all of them were either the accepted answers or at least the front-runners for their respective clues by the time the lineup dropped. Clue #1 is a bit of a special case because Gary apparently missed Opeth when he went through the thread, so there was some confusion as to whether or not it was ruled out, but even so it mostly ended up being the front runner. So that means that even though nobody is allowed to confirm answers, we still basically ended up knowing what the correct answers were for each clue. They really do count as solved!
As far as I know, only one (Kylesa) was already known to be playing at the time they were guessed. The other 6 solved clues all gave us information we wouldn't otherwise have had.
Only two involved any sort of remotely obscure information - these clues really aren't a Google treasure hunt or anything like that. They're riddles, not tests of your trivia knowledge or your Google skills or anything else. And the answers aren't NEARLY as convoluted as some of our guesses!
6 out of the 7 involved some information about the band - album titles, song titles, band member names, locations, stuff like that. BUT not a single clue required any information about the band/artist that you couldn't find on their Wikipedia entry. So they don't require any of us to know anything obscure about the bands/artists themselves, either.
There were no anagrams whatsoever involved this year. Anagrams are something that we've tried a LOT in our clue-solving, so I thought it might be interesting/helpful to know that none of the clues we solved this year had anything to do with anagrams.
Alrighty, that's all I've got! Sorry that was so long, I just thought I'd share some of these things I noticed that I found interesting. Some of this I just thought might be useful for future reference, some of it I thought might serve as a little encouragement.
I know a lot of people have either lost interest in the clues this year or just thought they were dumb all along, but I really do think we had a pretty good track record as far as solving them this year. They're not impossibly difficult, and we really did solve several of them and learn about acts on the lineup we wouldn't otherwise have known about.
((And I'll say again what I've said before: if you're not interested, that's all well and dandy, but if that's the case then get out of our clue board and stop posting in here just to be negative about the clues! ))
Oh, and by the way, I finally got around to getting the website up to date - I kinda doubt anyone has paid it any attention since the lineup dropped, but just in case all the clues, hints, and answers should be up now. Sorry it took so long!
Finally I get some recognition for my Opeth post that went completely unnoticed in the "watershed" clue
Cool! Thanks for putting all this together. I'm really surprised that we didn't get clues for any big or mid-size acts. I know the days of "Janis' preserves will be reserved" and "clouds taste this way" are long gone, but I thought for sure we'd at least get one or two from the top 5 lines. Even in '09, after DJJD had caught hell for giving such easy clues the year before, we still got a couple easy-ish clues for higher up acts like Snoop Dogg and TV on the Radio. Anyway, this will definitely be helpful for next year's clues. Thanks for putting this all together, PlasticPepper - +1 to you! I would have been completely lost without your website.
Finally I get some recognition for my Opeth post that went completely unnoticed in the "watershed" clue
Haha, yep, I noticed! That was why I kept thinking Opeth couldn't be right - Gary said he scoured the first 49 pages of the thread and I think it was on 23 that you threw Opeth out, so I thought they were ruled out!
And yeah, Cap'n Jack, I was kinda surprised by the lack of high-level acts in the clues too. Last year we got a clue for DMB, plus the Flaming Lips, Weezer...and in that last rush of clues, even Stevie Wonder and Jay-Z. Although I wouldn't necessarily count that last rush as being the same as the others. But still, seems like this year's round of clues didn't yield the same big-name answers as last year and previous years. But oh well, I'm okay with mid-level and smaller acts if it's a trade-off for more hints/feedback, and I kinda feel like that's what we got this year. Pretty sure last year we had WAY more clues where we knew we had mentioned the right answer but didn't have the foggiest idea which of our 70 guesses it was.
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