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-I didn't see the post but at the time LLL pointed out that it was deleted the tally was tied 2-2. I assume they were afraid Bacon might have gotten voted off since he has done some fairly suspicious stuff. Then rethought there strategy and decided to wait and see how the round played out?
When the tally was 2-2, you are talking about the four players who sent Bacon & Higgi into the runoff? As in myself, Bacon, Higgi & NoAge? I know I didn't delete any posts there. That would narrow it down to three suspects - and I know Higgi wouldn't be outing himself like that
It's was 2-2 until LLL posted, pointing out the deleted post and voting higgi. You would have to ask LLL what time it was when she saw it but it got tied at around 12 pm on the 29th and LLL didn't post until 4am the next morning. It was Noage's post. He admitted to it.
Edit to add: Or am I missing something?
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I have an unexpected errand to Milwaukee so Mom can have something postmarked by midnight. She called to ask, I Googled the only post office still open in the state for her, and I don't necessarily trust her with directions or in the neighborhood.
While I'm out being a good son, I suggest the rest of y'all be diligent Townspeople and give further consideration to what I had to say on the last page while we still can still do something about it.
And on that reasoning, I would assume that either NoD or SFA (is not both) are mafia bc they were the votes to put these peeps in the run off. Alternately, it could be NBF/NoD=mafia or Bacon/SFA=mafia but I think that would be too easy.
I also have an idea about another possible mafia member but it is too early to mention names until that person puts theirself out there a little more (or not at all).
LLL - is hot... but all the pretty girls always get the breaks. However, my unmentioned possible mafia suspect voted for LLL and I don't necessarily want to vote WITH that person but said person may not even be mafia anyway.
actually, bek mentions SFA then gets killed that same night.
She also mentioned Bacon and highly implied you, then got killed that same might. If you remember, I was fairly dismissive to the idea of Bek's post meaning anything about you. I hope you will consider to do the same.[/quote]
where do you guys get she highly implied me? she could have been talking about Higgi!
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on May 2, 2011 21:50:43 GMT -5
Kdogg you continue to try to implicate me with your smoke and mirrors tactics. It's like reading the dialogue of a manipulator. Your fallacious arguments run far and wide.
Let's cut away your arguments of circumstance and faulty analogies. If I were Mafia, which you seem to be implying, then it still comes down to only two scenarios. NoAge is Mafia with me and feigning Inspector, or NoAge is the Inspector and I just called out the post along with my other two Mafia team members, one of whom is currently in a run-off.
Scenario 1: NoAge is Mafia, and I am Mafia and we formulated this plan together. A plan hatched by a couple of rookies. He puts up a post claiming to be Inspector, takes it down and then I say that I saw this post. We get SFA and Higgi kicked off. This scenario makes NoAge and I the Sun Tzu's of the Mafia games. Truly. This would be one goddang brilliant move. In fact, I'm rather flattered that you think that we are on this level of genius. I'll be sitting by my phone waiting on Mensa to call later tonight.
Scenario 2: NoAge is really the Inspector. I am Mafia, and NoAge just called out my two team members. My brain then falls out of my skull for a moment and I decide it would be a good idea to go ahead and point out that NoAge just called out my fellow Mafia, but erased the post. Mind you I am the ONLY one who saw this post, so my team members would have been safe had I kept my pie hole shut. The end result, Higgi gets voted off, SFA gets voted off. I am now the lone Mafia against all of the townspeople, trying to make my way through the rest of the game alone.
C'mon Kdogg. You're too smart for this sort of ridiculousness.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
actually, bek mentions SFA then gets killed that same night.
She also mentioned Bacon and highly implied you, then got killed that same might. If you remember, I was fairly dismissive to the idea of Bek's post meaning anything about you. I hope you will consider to do the same.
where do you guys get she highly implied me? she could have been talking about Higgi![/quote]
Higgi didn't vote for LLL! I'd like everyone to note that I took the time to stick up for Kel and she won't even take the time read the main post that had people talking about her. Instead she goes on and on about Higgi and I.
But everyone go ahead and trust Noage. None of this is suspicious at all.
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actually, bek mentions SFA then gets killed that same night.
She also mentioned Bacon and highly implied you, then got killed that same might. If you remember, I was fairly dismissive to the idea of Bek's post meaning anything about you. I hope you will consider to do the same.
where do you guys get she highly implied me? she could have been talking about Higgi![/quote]
Kel, I don't know if I would necessarily say that she "highly implied" you, but I did immediately think she was talking about you because of the "or not at all" parenthetical. Regardless, she wasn't talking about higgi because she said that her unnamed suspect voted for LLL, and higgi voted for jhammett.
Kdogg, I think that it is possible that Bek was the inspector. It seems safe to say that if noage is not the inspector, it was probably either jhamm or Bek because it seems likely that if the inspector was alive, he or she would have spoken up by now to refute noage. I think that if noage is not the inspector, he would have had to have been pretty sure that the inspector was dead or else it was super-risky of him to come out as a fake inspector. Which means it would likely have to have been Bek because I don't think jhammett said enough to tip off mafia that if he was inspector. When Bek ignored your post asking to expand the runoff, my initial thought was that she was the inspector. Then I got suspicious that she was mafia because of her prolonged absence and just-in-time reappearance. If she was inspector, I think that would likely mean that she knew that either jhammett, LLL, or you were/are mafia.
so....let me get this straight. you guys all think bek was talking about me, but yet she voted LLL with me? wouldn't she vote opposite, if she was implying she knew i was guilty.
Post by NothingButFlowers on May 2, 2011 23:24:10 GMT -5
She said that her unnamed suspect voted for LLL. Whether she was talking about you or not, she voted with that person. The votes were pretty evenly split. Chances were, either way, she was voting with mafia no matter whether she voted for LLL or for jhammett.
Post by NothingButFlowers on May 2, 2011 23:25:35 GMT -5
Also, to whatever extent I think she was implying that she suspected you, I don't necessarily think that she was saying she knew you were guilty. I think that if she did suspect you, it was for the same reason I did, because you weren't saying anything.
@ SFA: Your guess as to Bek's "7th player" identity voting LLL, as has been postulated?
Well after rereading Bek's post, maybe it wasn't as obvious as I thought it was but I'm pretty sure she was referring to Kel. Not that it necessarily means anything:
-She was probable thinking along the same lines of what you and NBF have pointing out... her absence in the game.
-The Mafia might have thought Bek was referring to someone else and killed her thinking she was the inspector, along with possible calling out other players.
-Bek could have been way off the mark and we won't really know until the end of the game.
so....let me get this straight. you guys all think bek was talking about me, but yet she voted LLL with me? wouldn't she vote opposite, if she was implying she knew i was guilty.
I never said you were guilty. That was part of my point. When Kdogg ask who I thought she was referring to I responded with this.
@ SFA: Your guess as to Bek's "7th player" identity voting LLL, as has been postulated?
Well after rereading Bek's post, maybe it wasn't as obvious as I thought it was but I'm pretty sure she was referring to Kel. Not that it necessarily means anything:
-She was probable thinking along the same lines of what you and NBF have pointing out... her absence in the game.
-The Mafia might have thought Bek was referring to someone else and killed her thinking she was the inspector, along with possible calling out other players.
-Bek could have been way off the mark and we won't really know until the end of the game.
I'd initially just pointed out to NBF and Kdogg that Bek had mentioned another player and that they should be considered if the four people she listed were. As you can see, I didn't try to throw you under the bus. All I was to take that into consideration.
Also, strongly implied was to strong a phrase. You and NBF are right.
Kdogg, I think that it is possible that Bek was the inspector. It seems safe to say that if noage is not the inspector, it was probably either jhamm or Bek because it seems likely that if the inspector was alive, he or she would have spoken up by now to refute noage. I think that if noage is not the inspector, he would have had to have been pretty sure that the inspector was dead or else it was super-risky of him to come out as a fake inspector. Which means it would likely have to have been Bek because I don't think jhammett said enough to tip off mafia that if he was inspector. When Bek ignored your post asking to expand the runoff, my initial thought was that she was the inspector. Then I got suspicious that she was mafia because of her prolonged absence and just-in-time reappearance. If she was inspector, I think that would likely mean that she knew that either jhammett, LLL, or you were/are mafia.
If Bek had known that I was Mafia, do you really think she would have gone out of her way to say what she did? She could have just as easily justified a vote in the other direction by simply saying that she didn't know anything & was casting her vote to continue to cancel out mine. If you think Bek would have had one of those three names... how do you explain the fact that Bek voted along with me for LLL, when JHammett was her only other option? That situation directly involves the three names you mention, and we all know who Bek chose.
Also, Bek was talking about a potential Mafia voting for LLL and wasn't certain whether that was the case. I will admit that I fit those criteria. So do four other players... five, if you count Bacon as having voted LLL at some point.
Now, think back to what I was suggesting earlier. I've said Bek may have thought LLL was Mafia, and possibly considering voting Bacon. I pointed out how BOTH Bacon & NoAge have made suspicious vote changes this game which imply they could be working in situation.
Now, please follow the my premise and assume that: Mafia LLL Bacon NoAge
NoAge had zero votes for him. Bacon had zero votes for him. Bacon changed his vote to save LLL, when it came down to it.
Would those three really have had any choice except to target people who voted for LLL? That trio really wouldn't have any other Inspector suspects, would they?
It is entirely possible that a Mafia consisting of these three players would have reason to believe they had killed their Inspector during the first round. No other players would have raised a red flag with them, given the circumstances.
Can you understand now, perhaps, why I am more concerned with how dead players voted than because of what they said?
I'm sorry, but there is a 100% correlation between voting LLL and being killed in this game. This cannot be refuted.
Well after rereading Bek's post, maybe it wasn't as obvious as I thought it was but I'm pretty sure she was referring to Kel. Not that it necessarily means anything:
-She was probable thinking along the same lines of what you and NBF have pointing out... her absence in the game.
-The Mafia might have thought Bek was referring to someone else and killed her thinking she was the inspector, along with possible calling out other players.
-Bek could have been way off the mark and we won't really know until the end of the game.
you were sticking up for me?
How is any of that against you? Two bullet points go totally away from you. The top one says nothing that hadn't already been stated and gives Bek's opinion on the subject no special value.
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Kdogg you continue to try to implicate me with your smoke and mirrors tactics. It's like reading the dialogue of a manipulator. Your fallacious arguments run far and wide.
Let's cut away your arguments of circumstance and faulty analogies. If I were Mafia, which you seem to be implying, then it still comes down to only two scenarios. NoAge is Mafia with me and feigning Inspector, or NoAge is the Inspector and I just called out the post along with my other two Mafia team members, one of whom is currently in a run-off.
Scenario 1: NoAge is Mafia, and I am Mafia and we formulated this plan together. A plan hatched by a couple of rookies. He puts up a post claiming to be Inspector, takes it down and then I say that I saw this post. We get SFA and Higgi kicked off. This scenario makes NoAge and I the Sun Tzu's of the Mafia games. Truly. This would be one goddang brilliant move. In fact, I'm rather flattered that you think that we are on this level of genius. I'll be sitting by my phone waiting on Mensa to call later tonight.
Scenario 2: NoAge is really the Inspector. I am Mafia, and NoAge just called out my two team members. My brain then falls out of my skull for a moment and I decide it would be a good idea to go ahead and point out that NoAge just called out my fellow Mafia, but erased the post. Mind you I am the ONLY one who saw this post, so my team members would have been safe had I kept my pie hole shut. The end result, Higgi gets voted off, SFA gets voted off. I am now the lone Mafia against all of the townspeople, trying to make my way through the rest of the game alone.
C'mon Kdogg. You're too smart for this sort of ridiculousness.
Or you're Mafia.
The one thing you have to do, have not yet done, for me to have a hint of a shred of trust in you:
Please explain to me and to everyone why every single person who has died in this game thus far has cast a vote for you.
Unless and until you do that, you quack like a duck to me.
P.S. Your first option conveniently neglects to mention Bacon, who has masterminded false Inspector ruses in the past, who cast a suspicious vote to save you last round, whose identity I suspect Bek inquired about. I call shenanigans.
^to be fair...only one person has died, it's only been one night.
Mafia do not vote all three of them together if they can avoid it. As such, I believe that there are usually two Mafia in the majority and one Mafia in the minority when there is a one-vote margin (edited to add:) and they have no rooting interest in the outcome.(/edit) I would imagine that two Mafia voted for JHam and one Mafia voted for LLL, in the case of this game's first round. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar were happening with the current vote tally, either.
Post by NothingButFlowers on May 2, 2011 23:52:32 GMT -5
^It's funny how I get so used to the filters that I replace the filtered words in my head automatically even though sometimes quack actually means quack.
I said this before, but I want to reiterate, I will be traveling most of the day tomorrow and do not anticipate that I want to come home and sign on to inforoo to play mafia. I will have a 4 hour layover and will be able to check in on my phone and will probably vote if we are in voting mode again by then, but I probably won't have much at all to say because my phone is a piece of crap and a total pain to check inforoo on. (I was using my ipod earlier this week, but it only has internet if I'm somewhere with wireless, and I don't think I can get that for free in the airport. I didn't think they offered it on my flights, but I did have it on one of them on the way out here, but it was $7, and I don't want internet access on my flight that bad.) Anyway, I will also go ahead and say that when I get back to work on Wednesday, I'm going to be super-busy, so all of this is my long-winded way of saying that while I will check in and post as much as possible in the next two days, that probably won't be much at all.
^to be fair...only one person has died, it's only been one night.
Mafia do not vote all three of them together if they can avoid it. As such, I believe that there are usually two Mafia in the majority and one Mafia in the minority. I would imagine that two Mafia voted for JHam and one Mafia voted for LLL, in the case of this game's first round.
Kdogg you continue to try to implicate me with your smoke and mirrors tactics. It's like reading the dialogue of a manipulator. Your fallacious arguments run far and wide.
Let's cut away your arguments of circumstance and faulty analogies. If I were Mafia, which you seem to be implying, then it still comes down to only two scenarios. NoAge is Mafia with me and feigning Inspector, or NoAge is the Inspector and I just called out the post along with my other two Mafia team members, one of whom is currently in a run-off.
Scenario 1: NoAge is Mafia, and I am Mafia and we formulated this plan together. A plan hatched by a couple of rookies. He puts up a post claiming to be Inspector, takes it down and then I say that I saw this post. We get SFA and Higgi kicked off. This scenario makes NoAge and I the Sun Tzu's of the Mafia games. Truly. This would be one goddang brilliant move. In fact, I'm rather flattered that you think that we are on this level of genius. I'll be sitting by my phone waiting on Mensa to call later tonight.
Scenario 2: NoAge is really the Inspector. I am Mafia, and NoAge just called out my two team members. My brain then falls out of my skull for a moment and I decide it would be a good idea to go ahead and point out that NoAge just called out my fellow Mafia, but erased the post. Mind you I am the ONLY one who saw this post, so my team members would have been safe had I kept my pie hole shut. The end result, Higgi gets voted off, SFA gets voted off. I am now the lone Mafia against all of the townspeople, trying to make my way through the rest of the game alone.
C'mon Kdogg. You're too smart for this sort of ridiculousness.
Or you're Mafia.
The one thing you have to do, have not yet done, for me to have a hint of a shred of trust in you:
Please explain to me and to everyone why every single person who has died in this game thus far has cast a vote for you.
Unless and until you do that, you quack like a duck to me.
P.S. Your first option conveniently neglects to mention Bacon, who has masterminded false Inspector ruses in the past, who cast a suspicious vote to save you last round, whose identity I suspect Bek inquired about. I call shenanigans.
Because it was a RUN OFF. One of them would have been voting for themselves had they not voted for me, and the other had a 50/50 chance of choosing me. So really only one of those votes counts. And that one is called ODDS. She had no other choice but to pick me or JHam. No other outcome was possible.
Unlike, say, the fact that you voted for Bek out of the 10 other possible choices. Or the way that NBF and NoD chose JHam when they had 10 other choices. Or the way that Bek chose you out of the 10, and JHam chose NBF out of the 10.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
