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I know a lot of people dont think MMJ will be back next year but I could see them closing out sunday. Right now I could see MMJ, Phish, or Furthur closing out Sunday. I think we will get a classic act Saturday. Friday is pretty much in the air right now but my best guess right now is Foo Fighters. I would love to see RHCP friday though
They would not be a Sunday closer, the reason they do the jam bands is so that people who do not like that kind of thing leave and make the logistics easier on everyone. If we do not get Furthur I kind of expect someone smaller to get the upgrade. Trey solo, possibly even Umphreys though they are the "smallest" band I have ever mentioned for the slot. If they brought up guests and did covers it would be a lot of fun though.
So they put the jam headliner there to thin out the crowd? That makes no sense to me.
Well Capps did not tell me that personally it has just always been my opinion. If half the crowd leaves before the other half it has to make logistics easier.
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That being said maybe it would just happen anyway, but a lot of the Sunday nighters on here would be irritated if MMJ played until 11:30 Sunday.
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Actually I don't think its that ridiculous to think they put the headliner with the smallest appeal on Sunday to spread out the people leaving. Not that they purposefully pick a smaller Sunday headliner but that they put the headliner with the smallest likely crowd on Sunday. Just look at 08 when JJ was originally the Sunday headliner.
By people leaving early they lose money so why would they want people to leave?
So that it does not take everyone the same 6 hours to leave it took them to get in..... Also I imagine the majority of the sales revenue is over by then.
40,000 x $10 (lowend) on dinner/refreshments = $400,000. Ya, they definitely want half of the crowd to leave. Who would want another $400,000+ of concession revenue?
And wow, you're like a walking, talking infomercial to turn people away from Pearl Jam and Ohio State, aren't you? Before you started posting here I quite liked Pearl Jam and was indifferent towards OSU, now I find myself wishing that Eddie Vedder falls down a mine shaft or that Columbus is infested with locusts
40,000 x $10 (lowend) on dinner/refreshments = $400,000. Ya, they definitely want half of the crowd to leave. Who would want another $400,000+ of concession revenue?
They only get 15% of that not the whole thing so try about 50k, assuming everyone spends ten dollars instead of the usual Sunday crowd which has figured out how to sneak in beer and buy 3 dollar corndogs.
I doubt the traffic leaving is a big concern for them. Most people who leave sunday leave earlier in the day and are doing so to get back to work or previous engagements. Not because of who is closing out. They want all the revenue they can possibly generate down to the last dollar. It is a business not a traffic contest to see how many people they can get to leave sunday
And wow, you're like a walking, talking infomercial to turn people away from Pearl Jam and Ohio State, aren't you? Before you started posting here I quite liked Pearl Jam and was indifferent towards OSU, now I find myself wishing that Eddie Vedder falls down a mine shaft or that Columbus is infested with locusts
Where are you getting the 15% number from? You are making Leno up.
He's worked closely and is friends with people who would know these sort of things. I don't know if he made that up....but I wouldn't be surprised if that were a real figure.
The merch tent normally closes around when the Sunday headliner starts on Sunday anyways. Again I don't think that anyone is saying that they purposefully chose smaller bands for Sunday to get people to leave early. BUT they do put the headliner with the smallest appeal in that spot in order to spread out the traffic.
I think if Muse were to come, they would get the same spot as either MMJ or Arcade Fire. Keep in mind, there is only one headliner to Bonnaroo, then there are other major bands. If Muse were to be the first one listed on the lineup, everyone would be disappointed.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 23, 2011 14:39:29 GMT -5
I've always felt that one of the reasons for who the Sunday headliner is, is so that the non-jam fans can leave early if they want.
Does anyone have a better reason for why they always have the "jam" headliner on Sunday? Why not put them on Saturday and let Metallica or Arcade Fire play the Sunday slot?
Where are you getting the 15% number from? You are making Leno up.
Nope I have a good friend whose dad owns several of the Lemonade stands, it is 5k for outside vending 10k for inside and Bonnaroo keeps 15% of the sales. At least that was the case in 2009, and he said that was higher than most other festivals so I doubt it has gone up much. I worked a charity booth this year, and that was a different deal, I know we kept all the tips and got a percentage, but I do not know what the Miller distributors deal was, or what the percentage was.
I think if Muse were to come, they would get the same spot as either MMJ or Arcade Fire. Keep in mind, there is only one headliner to Bonnaroo, then there are other major bands. If Muse were to be the first one listed on the lineup, everyone would be disappointed.
Bonnaroo has 3 headliners. The band each day that plays the What stage unopposed.
There is not a chance that is a real figure. They might net 15% of food sales. But those numbers include fixed costs that Roo incurs with or without the marginal sale. The only variable costs associated with the sale of a single corn dog is the cost of the corndog itself, which is probably like 30 cents and the commision that they give the charities (that might be 15%). if you were doing the math, they net like 2.25 on the incremental corn dog.
And wow, you're like a walking, talking infomercial to turn people away from Pearl Jam and Ohio State, aren't you? Before you started posting here I quite liked Pearl Jam and was indifferent towards OSU, now I find myself wishing that Eddie Vedder falls down a mine shaft or that Columbus is infested with locusts
I've always felt that one of the reasons for who the Sunday headliner is, is so that the non-jam fans can leave early if they want.
Does anyone have a better reason for why they always have the "jam" headliner on Sunday? Why not put them on Saturday and let Metallica or Arcade Fire play the Sunday slot?
Well, it happens, not sure if it's intentional or not. It's stupid if it is the reason.
Kid Rock, Zac Brown, Jimmy Buffett? None if these would headline and the only one that could come close is Buffett but even he couldn't headline.
I think any of those guys could make a great Friday show - I would love to see all of them at Bonnaroo. They are popular, and Zac Brown Band has released some good stuff this past year. What if we could get Buffett and Zac Brown?
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Where are you getting the 15% number from? You are making Leno up.
Nope I have a good friend whose dad owns several of the Lemonade stands, it is 5k for outside vending 10k for inside and Bonnaroo keeps 15% of the sales. At least that was the case in 2009, and he said that was higher than most other festivals so I doubt it has gone up much. I worked a charity booth this year, and that was a different deal, I know we kept all the tips and got a percentage, but I do not know what the Miller distributors deal was, or what the percentage was.
That is for outside vendors, like the folks that sell gator. The charity booths probably have a much higher return.
And wow, you're like a walking, talking infomercial to turn people away from Pearl Jam and Ohio State, aren't you? Before you started posting here I quite liked Pearl Jam and was indifferent towards OSU, now I find myself wishing that Eddie Vedder falls down a mine shaft or that Columbus is infested with locusts