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I've always felt that one of the reasons for who the Sunday headliner is, is so that the non-jam fans can leave early if they want.
Does anyone have a better reason for why they always have the "jam" headliner on Sunday? Why not put them on Saturday and let Metallica or Arcade Fire play the Sunday slot?
Well, it happens, not sure if it's intentional or not. It's stupid if it is the reason.
Why do you think they put the Jam bands on Sunday and not on Friday or Saturday?
There is not a chance that is a real figure. They might net 15% of food sales. But those numbers include fixed costs that Roo incurs with or without the marginal sale. The only variable costs associated with the sale of a single corn dog is the cost of the corndog itself, which is probably like 30 cents and the commision that they give the charities (that might be 15%). if you were doing the math, they net like 2.25 on the incremental corn dog.
Only beer sales are charities, the rest are private vendors, do you really think Bonnaroo just keeps a bunch of arepa stands and corn dog vendors around to bust them out once a year? Also do you think the corn dog vendors would be happy to only net 30 cents a sale?
Nope I have a good friend whose dad owns several of the Lemonade stands, it is 5k for outside vending 10k for inside and Bonnaroo keeps 15% of the sales. At least that was the case in 2009, and he said that was higher than most other festivals so I doubt it has gone up much. I worked a charity booth this year, and that was a different deal, I know we kept all the tips and got a percentage, but I do not know what the Miller distributors deal was, or what the percentage was.
That is for outside vendors, like the folks that sell gator. The charity booths probably have a much higher return.
Like I said I have no idea what the deal is between Miller and Bonnaroo, but I am pretty sure Miller is not doing it just for the exposure.
Why do you think they put the Jam bands on Sunday and not on Friday or Saturday?
So why even bring those bands back?
Answer the question.....why do YOU think they book the jam bands on Sunday every year?
The reason why they bring the bands back is they do appeal to a large part of the audience, but not everyone so it makes it easier for the non-jam fans to skip it.
It would be pretty difficult to get 3 headliners of exactly the same popularity it just happens that the jam are less popular the majority of the time.
Why do you think they put the Jam bands on Sunday and not on Friday or Saturday?
So why even bring those bands back?
Because other people do not have the same musical tastes as you. Also dropping them would significantly lower the people who go. Plenty of people, go for the one WOW to them headliner, and a weekend of good diverse music.
There is not a chance that is a real figure. They might net 15% of food sales. But those numbers include fixed costs that Roo incurs with or without the marginal sale. The only variable costs associated with the sale of a single corn dog is the cost of the corndog itself, which is probably like 30 cents and the commision that they give the charities (that might be 15%). if you were doing the math, they net like 2.25 on the incremental corn dog.
Only beer sales are charities, the rest are private vendors, do you really think Bonnaroo just keeps a bunch of arepa stands and corn dog vendors around to bust them out once a year? Also do you think the corn dog vendors would be happy to only net 30 cents a sale?
Charities run a bunch of the food stands. Do you think Roo keeps a bunch of beer stands around? No, they rent them, just like the generic food stands. Do you know what the rent on those is called? It is called a fixed cost. Whatever, this is dumb. i'm not teaching you cost accounting on a message board,
And wow, you're like a walking, talking infomercial to turn people away from Pearl Jam and Ohio State, aren't you? Before you started posting here I quite liked Pearl Jam and was indifferent towards OSU, now I find myself wishing that Eddie Vedder falls down a mine shaft or that Columbus is infested with locusts
And wow, you're like a walking, talking infomercial to turn people away from Pearl Jam and Ohio State, aren't you? Before you started posting here I quite liked Pearl Jam and was indifferent towards OSU, now I find myself wishing that Eddie Vedder falls down a mine shaft or that Columbus is infested with locusts
Only beer sales are charities, the rest are private vendors, do you really think Bonnaroo just keeps a bunch of arepa stands and corn dog vendors around to bust them out once a year? Also do you think the corn dog vendors would be happy to only net 30 cents a sale?
Charities run a bunch of the food stands. Do you think Roo keeps a bunch of beer stands around? No, they rent them, just like the generic food stands. Do you know what the rent on those is called? It is called a fixed cost. Whatever, this is dumb. i'm not teaching you cost accounting on a message board,
The charity beer stands are fixed installations, I am taking it you have never been to the farm in the off season. As far as I know there are no charity run food stands on the farm at all, those people are outside vendors who make a living doing it.
So whine about cost accounting all you want here are the deals that I have personal knowledge of. Brooers tent, the stands that sell the Miller at the What and Which, inside food vendors, outside food vendors (separate sources). I don't personally give a crap whether or not you believe it but my info on these has all come from talking to owners because I am curious about it. Any number of people on here can tell you I know the owners of Ragin Cajun, and several other vendors. I am always curious about logistics so I ask questions and feel pretty confident in my information.
I have never heard of a festival that rents the food booths and pays the workers hourly, that is just not how it works.
And wow, you're like a walking, talking infomercial to turn people away from Pearl Jam and Ohio State, aren't you? Before you started posting here I quite liked Pearl Jam and was indifferent towards OSU, now I find myself wishing that Eddie Vedder falls down a mine shaft or that Columbus is infested with locusts
Answer the question.....why do YOU think they book the jam bands on Sunday every year?
The reason why they bring the bands back is they do appeal to a large part of the audience, but not everyone so it makes it easier for the non-jam fans to skip it.
But it's not a large part of the audience, the excuse has been they use that spot to clear a lot of people out. That's my whole point.
Because other people do not have the same musical tastes as you. Also dropping them would significantly lower the people who go. Plenty of people, go for the one WOW to them headliner, and a weekend of good diverse music.
You seriously think a lot of people who go are dependent on that Sunday headliner? A significant number even?
Answer the question.....why do YOU think they book the jam bands on Sunday every year?
The reason why they bring the bands back is they do appeal to a large part of the audience, but not everyone so it makes it easier for the non-jam fans to skip it.
But it's not a large part of the audience, the excuse has been they use that spot to clear a lot of people out. That's my whole point.
Why do you think Roo books it this way then? Why not put Widespread on Friday this year and Arcade Fire on Sunday? There's got to be some reasons for it.
But it's not a large part of the audience, the excuse has been they use that spot to clear a lot of people out. That's my whole point.
Why do you think Roo books it this way then? Why not put Widespread on Friday this year and Arcade Fire on Sunday? There's got to be some reasons for it.
I'm not even questioning that they do this, I'm saying it's a stupid reason.
Why do you think Roo books it this way then? Why not put Widespread on Friday this year and Arcade Fire on Sunday? There's got to be some reasons for it.
I'm not even questioning that they do this, I'm saying it's a stupid reason.
Come on dude.....i'm just asking you a question. 3 times actually lol. Why do you think? What is your opinion on why they do this? I'm not arguing with you....i'm genuinely interested in why you think they would do this.
I'm not even questioning that they do this, I'm saying it's a stupid reason.
Come on dude.....i'm just asking you a question. 3 times actually lol. Why do you think? What is your opinion on why they do this? I'm not arguing with you....i'm genuinely interested into why you think they would do this.
I mean, I basically answered it already, or at least I thought I did just not explicitly.
They probably do it to clear the crowds and book them Sunday because it'll easily be the least popular headliner. They're too afraid to stop booking the jam bands that they built their base on and book them out of absurd nostalgic loyalty.
I'm sure that booking Widespread, Phish, or any other jam ban headliner attracts a good number of people due to the cult followings those bands have. I'm sure it is a deal breaker for some if the jam heads that wouldn't come otherwise.
On that note, I really want a thread somewhere on this board where we can paste in the best quotes from our favorite posters. Not only would it preserve hilarity in one place for posterity's sake, but it would also serve as a way to alert people that there might be some ignorance taking place somewhere that could be good for a chuckle.
I agree. ITM, can we get one of these threads?! Pretty please??
On that note, I really want a thread somewhere on this board where we can paste in the best quotes from our favorite posters. Not only would it preserve hilarity in one place for posterity's sake, but it would also serve as a way to alert people that there might be some ignorance taking place somewhere that could be good for a chuckle.
I agree. ITM, can we get one of these threads?! Pretty please??
I don't mind if one is made. I'm not sure how everyone else views it though.
Just make a thread in the other tent next to random thoughts.
Although it might lead to posters trying to get in the thread and over reaching their comedic talent.
I'm looking for more unintentional comedy than anything else. For example, suggesting with a straight face that REO Speedwagon and Flo Rida should play next year, things of that nature.