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Personally I think the "at least one" means that one of the bands was booked and they are in discussions with another. I think the band that was already booked is the FF and the band they are in discussions with is the BB. It would fit the pattern of BS from last year of them realizing that a band was doing some shows and trying to book them last second.
This seems like a very plausible guess on what's going on.
Of course all we're doing is guessing (myself included obvs).
Well 2 of those bands are FF and RHCP, both of whom I would say are more likely to play than Radiohead
Yea but my point was that Radiohead is more likely than any touring band.
All four bands that were included in that list by insider are more likely to be at Roo then a random touring band because of what we heard from insider.
I'm not saying Radiohead is more likely than FF or RHCP. Just that there is more to the rumor than "gut feeling/the band is touring".
Once again I agree. Radiohead is more likely than most other random touring bands. That however does not put them anywhere close to 50%
This is kind of what I'm talking about with "running with" insider's words. She confirms one, and all of a sudden we think three are playing. ?
She confirmed "at least one" and since it was in the headliner thread and she usually gives us headliners that has made me think that she meant one of these bands would headline (Radiohead/Foo Fighters/RHCP) and another band (Beach Boys) would play the fest but not be a headliner.
I do find it amusing that people are taking her words to mean 3 out of the 4 but that's just me.
The only thing that makes me think that Radiohead is a possible headliner is insider's post from last year.
If you recall (or look through her posts), you'll see that insider claimed that at one point, Bonnaroo 2011 was shaping up to include Prince, Radiohead, Furthur, and Lil Wayne. Obviously, Lil Wayne is the only act from that list that actually made the lineup.
I don't see why Bonnaroo would ask Radiohead to play last year, when they weren't touring, and then not ask them to play in a year which they are touring (as well as have a lot of hype). Radiohead is one of the main reasons Bonnaroo is as it is today.
To further my argument, I remember reading an interview last year with either Ashley Capps or Neil Young which stated that Bonnaroo would ask Neil Young to play every year, but he just didn't have any new material to perform or working tour dates to schedule Bonnaroo into. However, last year, when he was finally asked AGAIN, he came up with the idea of extending Buffalo Springfield's run.
Just because they ask doesn't mean Radiohead will play.
No problem. I have it bookmarked in my "Insider, hurry the Eff up" folder.
As for what you said, I don't think that makes Radiohead any less likely. Foo/RHCP are pulling from the same demographic, so I don't expect both to be there, but I do expect 1 of them.
Also, Radiohead is withholding their East Coast tour dates, in the same manner they did with some of their dates before Coachella released its lineup. I wouldn't be shocked if Radiohead went to Roo (hit both of the "big two" festivals), but I'm not expecting it.
There is plenty of evidence to support a theory that they'll be at the Farm, though.
Post by A$AP Rosko on Jan 16, 2012 13:50:22 GMT -5
How does that not make Radiohead more likely? Insider said that from a list of four bands, one of them is definitely playing, and Radiohead is in that list. Putting all else aside, that makes Radiohead a 25% chance. There are no concrete rumors for BB, FF, or RHCP, just like there aren't any for Radiohead. I don't think RHCP is any more likely than Radiohead.
Then there's this: only two of the bands in that list (RHCP and Radiohead) are potential #1 names. Since we generally agree that acts like Macca or Rolling Stones or Bowie are highly unlikely, it seems that RHCP and Radiohead are the leading contenders to be the #1 name on the lineup. I'd say that makes both of their odds higher than 25%, somewhere between 25-50%. Again, I don't think RHCP's odds are any higher than Radiohead's.
What other fests would you say is more likely, out of curiosity?
Lolla or Roo. End of list.
99% they are not playing Lolla. They played Lolla in support of In Rainbows, they have said (and have shown) that they do not play festivals on back to back albums.
The only thing that makes me think that Radiohead is a possible headliner is insider's post from last year.
If you recall (or look through her posts), you'll see that insider claimed that at one point, Bonnaroo 2011 was shaping up to include Prince, Radiohead, Furthur, and Lil Wayne. Obviously, Lil Wayne is the only act from that list that actually made the lineup.
I don't see why Bonnaroo would ask Radiohead to play last year, when they weren't touring, and then not ask them to play in a year which they are touring (as well as have a lot of hype). Radiohead is one of the main reasons Bonnaroo is as it is today.
To further my argument, I remember reading an interview last year with either Ashley Capps or Neil Young which stated that Bonnaroo would ask Neil Young to play every year, but he just didn't have any new material to perform or working tour dates to schedule Bonnaroo into. However, last year, when he was finally asked AGAIN, he came up with the idea of extending Buffalo Springfield's run.
Just because they ask doesn't mean Radiohead will play.
Exactly. Bonnaroo would be stupid not to call Radiohead up just about every year. Yes the fact that they are actually touring makes them more likely.
I don't see why Bonnaroo would ask Radiohead to play last year, when they weren't touring, and then not ask them to play in a year which they are touring (as well as have a lot of hype).
They've said that Radiohead basically has an open invitation (much like you claimed about Neil) and that they'd want them any year they can get them.
Also, why would Bonnaroo ask Radiohead to play last year when they weren't touring? Simple....to be the ONLY Radiohead show. Not touring = rare chance to see them
How does that not make Radiohead more likely? Insider said that from a list of four bands, one of them is definitely playing, and Radiohead is in that list. Putting all else aside, that makes Radiohead a 25% chance. There are no concrete rumors for BB, FF, or RHCP, just like there aren't any for Radiohead. I don't think RHCP is any more likely than Radiohead.
Then there's this: only two of the bands in that list (RHCP and Radiohead) are potential #1 names. Since we generally agree that acts like Macca or Rolling Stones or Bowie are highly unlikely, it seems that RHCP and Radiohead are the leading contenders to be the #1 name on the lineup. I'd say that makes both of their odds higher than 25%, somewhere between 25-50%. Again, I don't think RHCP's odds are any higher than Radiohead's.
How does that not make Radiohead more likely? Insider said that from a list of four bands, one of them is definitely playing, and Radiohead is in that list. Putting all else aside, that makes Radiohead a 25% chance. There are no concrete rumors for BB, FF, or RHCP, just like there aren't any for Radiohead. I don't think RHCP is any more likely than Radiohead.
Then there's this: only two of the bands in that list (RHCP and Radiohead) are potential #1 names. Since we generally agree that acts like Macca or Rolling Stones or Bowie are highly unlikely, it seems that RHCP and Radiohead are the leading contenders to be the #1 name on the lineup. I'd say that makes both of their odds higher than 25%, somewhere between 25-50%. Again, I don't think RHCP's odds are any higher than Radiohead's.
Just because she confirmed at least one of those as correct doesn't make those 4 the only headliner possibilities.
Well 2 of those bands are FF and RHCP, both of whom I would say are more likely to play than Radiohead
I wouldn't say RHCP is more likely than Radiohead. I'd say they're dead even. And since insider said AT LEAST one, it seems likely two from that list will be at Roo. Since it's highly unlikely that BOTH FF and RHCP will be there, it's between Radiohead and Beach Boys. I actually wouldn't be totally shocked if we got Radiohead, the Foos, AND Beach Boys in addition to Phish. I'm not gonna go ahead and say THAT is 50/50, but I wouldn't be shocked.
This is kind of what I'm talking about with "running with" insider's words. She confirms one, and all of a sudden we think three are playing. ?[/quote]
Who's the one running with words here? Reading comprehension, dude. I said I wouldn't be shocked. I didn't say I think it's happening. I agree with Bacon, I think "at least one" means one is all booked and they were in discussions with another. Or something like that.
99% they are not playing Lolla. They played Lolla in support of In Rainbows, they have said (and have shown) that they do not play festivals on back to back albums.
Yeah, I know. I'm just kinda leaving the bread crumb trail to lead you to accept our (however unlikely or irrational) "Radiohead to Roo" wishlist theories. STOP RUINING THIS FOR US.
But the lack of any east coast dates on their US tour gives me a glimmer of hope since, as you pointed out, they're 99% likely to NOT play Lolla.
The only thing that makes me think that Radiohead is a possible headliner is insider's post from last year.
If you recall (or look through her posts), you'll see that insider claimed that at one point, Bonnaroo 2011 was shaping up to include Prince, Radiohead, Furthur, and Lil Wayne. Obviously, Lil Wayne is the only act from that list that actually made the lineup.
I don't see why Bonnaroo would ask Radiohead to play last year, when they weren't touring, and then not ask them to play in a year which they are touring (as well as have a lot of hype). Radiohead is one of the main reasons Bonnaroo is as it is today.
To further my argument, I remember reading an interview last year with either Ashley Capps or Neil Young which stated that Bonnaroo would ask Neil Young to play every year, but he just didn't have any new material to perform or working tour dates to schedule Bonnaroo into. However, last year, when he was finally asked AGAIN, he came up with the idea of extending Buffalo Springfield's run.
Just because they ask doesn't mean Radiohead will play.
Oh, I don't disagree with this comment at all. I am just saying, I wouldn't rule Radiohead out from the festival's perspective.
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How does that not make Radiohead more likely? Insider said that from a list of four bands, one of them is definitely playing, and Radiohead is in that list. Putting all else aside, that makes Radiohead a 25% chance. There are no concrete rumors for BB, FF, or RHCP, just like there aren't any for Radiohead. I don't think RHCP is any more likely than Radiohead.
Then there's this: only two of the bands in that list (RHCP and Radiohead) are potential #1 names. Since we generally agree that acts like Macca or Rolling Stones or Bowie are highly unlikely, it seems that RHCP and Radiohead are the leading contenders to be the #1 name on the lineup. I'd say that makes both of their odds higher than 25%, somewhere between 25-50%. Again, I don't think RHCP's odds are any higher than Radiohead's.
Just because she confirmed at least one of those as correct doesn't make those 4 the only headliner possibilities.
Obviously not, but if you theoretically left out all other factors, it makes for a 25% chance that each of those bands will play Bonnaroo this year.
This is kind of what I'm talking about with "running with" insider's words. She confirms one, and all of a sudden we think three are playing. ?
Who's the one running with words here? Reading comprehension, dude. I said I wouldn't be shocked. I didn't say I think it's happening. I agree with Bacon, I think "at least one" means one is all booked and they were in discussions with another. Or something like that.
Oh good "LEARN2READ" posts, now this should get good.
I should add in this i think it is fairly likely (25-50%) that we will get one headliner that we have not discussed much at all (ex Eagles, Killers, Muse... etc.)
How does that not make Radiohead more likely? Insider said that from a list of four bands, one of them is definitely playing, and Radiohead is in that list. Putting all else aside, that makes Radiohead a 25% chance. There are no concrete rumors for BB, FF, or RHCP, just like there aren't any for Radiohead. I don't think RHCP is any more likely than Radiohead.
Then there's this: only two of the bands in that list (RHCP and Radiohead) are potential #1 names. Since we generally agree that acts like Macca or Rolling Stones or Bowie are highly unlikely, it seems that RHCP and Radiohead are the leading contenders to be the #1 name on the lineup. I'd say that makes both of their odds higher than 25%, somewhere between 25-50%. Again, I don't think RHCP's odds are any higher than Radiohead's.
My theory is that each of those bands have a 25% chance to play Bonnaroo. That means there's probably a 50/50 chance that EITHER Radiohead OR Red Hot Chili Peppers are the #1 name, but that means there's a 50% chance that it's someone else, while they split the other 50%, resulting in 25% for each. Simple statistics.
This is kind of what I'm talking about with "running with" insider's words. She confirms one, and all of a sudden we think three are playing. ?
She confirmed "at least one" and since it was in the headliner thread and she usually gives us headliners that has made me think that she meant one of these bands would headline (Radiohead/Foo Fighters/RHCP) and another band (Beach Boys) would play the fest but not be a headliner.
I do find it amusing that people are taking her words to mean 3 out of the 4 but that's just me.
As I am sure people will have already commented by the time I make my post on my slow internet connection, insider counts 6 bands as headliners. 2 on Friday, 2 on Saturday, and 2 on Sunday. Therefore, it is possible Beach Boys would get the headliner nod from her.