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Who's the one running with words here? Reading comprehension, dude. I said I wouldn't be shocked. I didn't say I think it's happening. I agree with Bacon, I think "at least one" means one is all booked and they were in discussions with another. Or something like that.
Oh good "LEARN2READ" posts, now this should get good.
I'm just saying...you accused me of running with insider's words, but then you completely made a straw man out of the point I was making. Here's what I think, plain and simple: Radiohead is as likely as RHCP to be the #1 name on the Bonnaroo 2012 lineup, and those are the two leading contenders based on what we have right now. I've already said that perhaps 50/50 was a bit strong.
I really wish insider would just give us the top 6 already. Can anyone look at last year and see how close to the lineup she dropped all her info to us?
As I am sure people will have already commented by the time I make my post on my slow internet connection, insider counts 6 bands as headliners. 2 on Friday, 2 on Saturday, and 2 on Sunday. Therefore, it is possible Beach Boys would get the headliner nod from her.
That's not true. That's only how she told us last year. We don't always get 6 bands as headliners from her.
There is no set guidelines. This year we may only get 3 or 4 names from her.
Post by NotMitchelBade on Jan 16, 2012 14:03:08 GMT -5
The real interesting part about this snafu is that any combination of 2 of the 4 could play. There isn't a single act that precludes another. Radiohead is obviously a Saturday headliner, RHCP could be Saturday (paired with FF) or Friday (paired with Radiohead), FF is a clear Friday headliner, and Beach Boys are a pre-headliner. Even if we accurately deduce which one insider knows about, the other 3 are all still possible, independent of who the first band is. Very odd situation, if you ask me.
I'm starting to think RHCP is the most likely of insider's list. The fact that they rescheduled the entire first half of their tour, but didn't reschedule any dates at the beginning of June, makes me think that there is already something there. I'm just hoping it is Sasquatch and a subsequent tour through the northwest/midwest, instead of Bonnaroo.
The real interesting part about this snafu is that any combination of 2 of the 4 could play. There isn't a single act that precludes another. Radiohead is obviously a Saturday headliner, RHCP could be Saturday (paired with FF) or Friday (paired with Radiohead), FF is a clear Friday headliner, and Beach Boys are a pre-headliner. Even if we accurately deduce which one insider knows about, the other 3 are all still possible, independent of who the first band is. Very odd situation, if you ask me.
And then there's the part that we don't even know if there's going to be a second one. She left the door open, yes, but that doesn't mean she confirmed a second act.
I would think that getting one of FF or RHCP eliminates the chance to get the other. Roo isn't going to want to pull two headliners from the same demographic, are they?
The real interesting part about this snafu is that any combination of 2 of the 4 could play. There isn't a single act that precludes another. Radiohead is obviously a Saturday headliner, RHCP could be Saturday (paired with FF) or Friday (paired with Radiohead), FF is a clear Friday headliner, and Beach Boys are a pre-headliner. Even if we accurately deduce which one insider knows about, the other 3 are all still possible, independent of who the first band is. Very odd situation, if you ask me.
And then there's the part that we don't even know if there's going to be a second one. She left the door open, yes, but that doesn't mean she confirmed a second act.
More or less, she hasn't told us poop.
Except that one of those four bands is definitely playing, which is kind of a big deal.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jan 16, 2012 14:07:53 GMT -5
Everyone can stop expecting 6 names from Insider. It's not guaranteed we'll get 6 bands. She has only commented that we hit on all 3 headliners at various points in this thread then she gave us one (Phish) and a hint about another (RHCP/Foo/Radiohead/BeachBoys).
I'm expecting when all is said and done we'll have 3 or 4 names but I'd love to be wrong. I just don't want to see a bunch of "who are the other 3 bands" when we're not sure we'll even get a confirmation on those other high profile acts.
As I am sure people will have already commented by the time I make my post on my slow internet connection, insider counts 6 bands as headliners. 2 on Friday, 2 on Saturday, and 2 on Sunday. Therefore, it is possible Beach Boys would get the headliner nod from her.
That's not true. That's only how she told us last year. We don't always get 6 bands as headliners from her.
There is no set guidelines. This year we may only get 3 or 4 names from her.
No... it is true. She reminds us, every year, that she considers there to be 6 "headliners."
This is one of her posts from this year:
Keep in mind that not all of the 'headliners' (i.e. - early and late slots on Fri & Sat and Sun slot) have been signed, sealed and delivered yet and I only know when its done, not whats in negotiation/being finished up.
At no point I am saying she is going to give us all 6 headliners. Just that she considers there to be 6 headliners.
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Post by A$AP Rosko on Jan 16, 2012 14:09:29 GMT -5
I don't know, Bacon. That's a good question. I think they're all fairly close in likelihood. I guess I'd say the Beach Boys are the most likely, but I don't know if they'd be a headliner. I'm not convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt like some that they would not be a headliner (after all, imagine coming on here before the touring plans were announced and telling everyone that Beach Boys with Brian Wilson would headline Bonnaroo 2012...everyone would buy it, depending on the person's credibility that said it), but I'm not totally convinced they would be, either.
The other three I'd say are pretty much dead even since there's no real proof either way.
Billy Joel Yeah, I know. “What!?” A friend texted me yesterday to ask if I’d heard anything about a Bonnaroo appearance from The Piano Man. I haven’t. And I fully hope I don't hear mention, or especially confirmation, of one again. I just can’t picture BJ at Bonnaroo going over well at all. I mean, can you picture hearing “Allentown” or “We Didn’t Start the Fire” or, God forbid, “Captain Jack” while peaking? It would be a crime against humanity.
#1 - because I love Billy Joel. He's like "the" artist from my childhood. My parents always listened and I rediscovered him as an adult.
#2 - would someone like him or let's say Elton John or another similar artist not go over well with the Bonnaroo crowd like the author of the article mentions?
Last year was our first 'Roo and the one thing we loved so much was the wide range of music. It was like being inside of our itunes library. Of course, being a fan of his that would be awesome to see him there. I would be shocked if that actually happened though so hypothetically, would people really be pissed if someone like Billy Joel was on the lineup?
There aren't many names that would really piss people off if booked and scheduled appropriately.
For instance, I think people would accept a Billy Joel headlining spot if there was a What Stage late night from Daft Punk/Jay Z/Kanye West/WTT/etc. following his performance.
There is probably no salvation for Nickelback or Creed.
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That's not true. That's only how she told us last year. We don't always get 6 bands as headliners from her.
There is no set guidelines. This year we may only get 3 or 4 names from her.
No... it is true. She reminds us, every year, that she considers there to be 6 "headliners."
It is not true that she reminds us every year. The first year she only gave us the two headliners (and then mentioned Beasties opening for Phish on Friday because there were questions about placement of Phish). In 2010 she gave us the 4 headliners plus Tenacious D.
As I said...there's no set guidelines.
Also, look at the rest of her post (as well as the post before it):
It's too early for me to start playing the right/wrong game - we'll do that in a few weeks, but as far as bands confirmed so far, you guys have hit on all 3
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and
Wow- you guys are really onto it - a lot of where these threads are going are really, really close.......I've never seen the rumors so close so early......as Meatloaf said "2 out of 3 ain't bad"
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The focus on "3" is what makes me warn people not to expect getting 6 names this year.
Post by A$AP Rosko on Jan 16, 2012 14:23:37 GMT -5
I don't think she actually gave us Buffalo Springfield either, did she? I definitely remember her giving us Plant, Black Keys, AF, and WSP, but I don't remember her giving us BS or Eminem.
I don't think she actually gave us Buffalo Springfield either, did she? I definitely remember her giving us Plant, Black Keys, AF, and WSP, but I don't remember her giving us BS or Eminem.
Correct I think because they played Which stage. It seems like she only knows main stage acts.
Is it bad that when I see new pages on this thread i just scan them for insiders name?
Nope, that's exactly what I did too. Just woke up and saw 4 new pages from last night and got super excited thinking she came for sure. Turns out it was just 4 pages of Karosko & Friends arguing about percentiles