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Post by RadioSpirit on Jan 16, 2012 14:27:55 GMT -5
Wasn't last year the first year we got 6 names? I think the year before we just got 4? And the year before that we got 3?
And the phrasing this year seems to imply 5, and could maybe be taken as a hint that Phish is doing two sets on Sunday? Because she said "the Sunday slot" but referenced 2 slots on Friday and Saturday.
Is it bad that when I see new pages on this thread i just scan them for insiders name?
Nope, that's exactly what I did too. Just woke up and saw 4 new pages from last night and got super excited thinking she came for sure. Turns out it was just 4 pages of Karosko & Friends arguing about percentiles
Haha my bad...I just do what ITM did, check her profile. That way you can see if she logged in, too.
Post by Alberto Balsalm on Jan 16, 2012 14:35:23 GMT -5
That's like cheating, though. Like opening presents before Christmas. It's much more exhilarating to just be scrolling through with a sense of wonderment just waiting to see her name.
I think its worthwhile to point out that (very) early signs were pointing to Radiohead, Prince, Lil Wayne and Furthur all performing this year - and none of them panned out....
This tells us a few things 1. Insider is not 100% correct on everything (Wayne) 2. Bonaroo was in discussions with RH, Prince, and Furthur 3. It is likely that if discussion broke down they would try again the next year. 4. Furthur is out if Phish is in 5. Could Prince be the headliner we haven't discussed much?
Post by A$AP Rosko on Jan 16, 2012 14:40:04 GMT -5
That's exactly right, Duddits. She told us that the Saturday headliner was a hip-hop headliner and most suspected Eminem but fools like me thought there was a chance it could be Outkast or Kanye.
The lineup is 3-4 weeks away. I do not know the past experiences with insider, but I kind of hoped that she would have given us a little more than Phish by now. That was pretty much already non-confirmed, but confirmed. (you know what I mean)
One name would be nice, or maybe narrow the 4 down to 2 and say we are definitely getting at least one of THOSE... That would be much more exciting. Knowing we are getting at least one of, say, Radiohead and Beach Boys.
The lineup is 3-4 weeks away. I do not know the past experiences with insider, but I kind of hoped that she would have given us a little more than Phish by now. That was pretty much already non-confirmed, but confirmed. (you know what I mean)
One name would be nice, or maybe narrow the 4 down to 2 and say we are definitely getting at least one of THOSE... That would be much more exciting. Knowing we are getting at least one of, say, Radiohead and Beach Boys.
soon.... ... ...?
Actually the fact she has given us a name this early is highly unusual. Pretty much everything substantial from her has been in Feb.
Everyone can stop expecting 6 names from Insider. It's not guaranteed we'll get 6 bands. She has only commented that we hit on all 3 headliners at various points in this thread then she gave us one (Phish) and a hint about another (RHCP/Foo/Radiohead/BeachBoys).
I'm expecting when all is said and done we'll have 3 or 4 names but I'd love to be wrong. I just don't want to see a bunch of "who are the other 3 bands" when we're not sure we'll even get a confirmation on those other high profile acts.
Here's an insider recap to get the facts straight for everyone.
Last year she confirmed AF, MMJ Robert Plant, Widespread, Black Keys to us and a "major rap act."
Told us that Radiohead, Prince, Lil Wayne and Furthur were looked into but flopped (and we got one of them).
This year she told us we were 'quite correct' in a rumour (presumably Phish)
That we were "2 out of 3" on other rumours (previously mentioned were Foos, RHCP, Macca, Prince, Beach Boys, Radiohead)
"At least one" of RHCP/Radiohead/Beach Boys/Foos will be there.
With that information, I'm guessing the following:
I think it is worth noting that they did try and get Radiohead and/or Prince last year but it didn't work out. They ended up getting Lil Wayne last year, and I'm guessing choose Phish this year over Furthur (bigger draw). In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised to see Prince or Radiohead at the top of the list year given that they failed last year (so we know they are interested).
Personally, I'm hoping for:
The Raconteurs -> Foo Fighters -> Phish (LN) Van Morrison
The Shins -> The Beach Boys -> Prince Bon Iver -> Deadmau5 (LN) (gag)
Everyone can stop expecting 6 names from Insider. It's not guaranteed we'll get 6 bands. She has only commented that we hit on all 3 headliners at various points in this thread then she gave us one (Phish) and a hint about another (RHCP/Foo/Radiohead/BeachBoys).
I'm expecting when all is said and done we'll have 3 or 4 names but I'd love to be wrong. I just don't want to see a bunch of "who are the other 3 bands" when we're not sure we'll even get a confirmation on those other high profile acts.
Here's an insider recap to get the facts straight for everyone.
Last year she confirmed AF, MMJ Robert Plant, Widespread, Black Keys to us and a "major rap act."
Told us that Radiohead, Prince, Lil Wayne and Furthur were looked into but flopped (and we got one of them).
This year she told us we were 'quite correct' in a rumour (presumably Phish)
That we were "2 out of 3" on other rumours (previously mentioned were Foos, RHCP, Macca, Prince, Beach Boys, Radiohead)
"At least one" of RHCP/Radiohead/Beach Boys/Foos will be there.
With that information, I'm guessing the following:
I think it is worth noting that they did try and get Radiohead and/or Prince last year but it didn't work out. They ended up getting Lil Wayne last year, and I'm guessing choose Phish this year over Furthur (bigger draw). In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised to see Prince or Radiohead at the top of the list year given that they failed last year (so we know they are interested).
Personally, I'm hoping for:
The Raconteurs -> Foo Fighters -> Phish (LN) Van Morrison
The Shins -> The Beach Boys -> Prince Bon Iver -> Deadmau5 (LN) (gag)
Allman Brothers Band -> Phish The Roots
Actually the 2/3 came before she confirmed Phish. This would mean that Phish is 1/3 and 1/3 is out of the four bands we have discussed. the other 1/3 may be a less discussed name or another name on the list
Post by A$AP Rosko on Jan 16, 2012 14:53:49 GMT -5
This might surprise people, but I'd actually rather have Watch the Throne than Radiohead. Only because I'm already seeing Radiohead in ATL. That said, I think the odds of WTT happening at Roo are 0.1%
That we were "2 out of 3" on other rumours (previously mentioned were Foos, RHCP, Macca, Prince, Beach Boys, Radiohead)
I don't think the "2 out of 3" quote had to do with "other rumors". I think that at the time she posted that we had guessed two of the headliners. Then she confirmed that we had guessed all 3 at various points in the thread. When she said 2 out of 3 I took that as "you guys guessed Phish and one other headliner but not the third one" then later on she told us that we had guessed all 3.
But thank you for organizing and recapping the insider stuff.
Post by RadioSpirit on Jan 16, 2012 14:59:04 GMT -5
That's right, she never fully confirmed Eminem, I forgot about that. She said it would NOT be Kanye though, so that left Eminem, Eminem/Dre, Outkast, or some random guesses like RATM. But I think at that point it was beyond clear that Eminem was the headliner, I remember telling people that Eminem was going to headline.
Well yeah, the point is that insider will give us whatever she chooses to give us, and can be very different from year to year. And just because insider said "early signs" pointed towards Radiohead/Prince/Furthur/LilWayne but all of them fell through means she was wrong, it just means that early negotiations with Wayne failed, but then they were able to secure him later, and we know that there were several high-profile last minute additions thanks to insider and AC's tweets.
Post by A$AP Rosko on Jan 16, 2012 14:59:42 GMT -5
Does anyone have the energy to go back and figure out which bands were newly mentioned between those two insider posts? I definitely don't, but if someone else has the inclination or ingenuity, I say go for it.
This might surprise people, but I'd actually rather have Watch the Throne than Radiohead. Only because I'm already seeing Radiohead in ATL. That said, I think the odds of WTT happening at Roo are 0.1%
I'd rather have Dr. Dre than either of them. Although I doubt it. Maybe he really, really, really liked Bonnaroo last year when he came with Eminem, and Snoop did in 2009? Let's hope...
And I like Radiohead more, but I'm able to see them without too much effort. Dre hasn't performed since 2001...
Too be honest I don't even know what everyone is arguing anymore. I was just clarifying. For some reason all the discussion in here has done for me is make me think Prince is a dark horse headlining candidate
Does anyone have the energy to go back and figure out which bands were newly mentioned between those two insider posts? I definitely don't, but if someone else has the inclination or ingenuity, I say go for it.
Haha no way. Plus in the end it might be futile. Who knows how closely she actually reads everything. Maybe the 3rd band was mentioned but she didn't read it yet
Post by RadioSpirit on Jan 16, 2012 15:05:20 GMT -5
As awesome as "Dre. Dre/Snoop Dogg" looks on a lineup, there seems to be a high chance that it will be terrible. When was the last time Dre performed live? A decade ago? It's not like he's ever been a particularly high-quality rapper to begin with, and with 10 years off, will he still be able to bring it? I bet his breath-control, flow, etc are going to leave a lot to be desired. I just see that show being either disappointing, very disappointing, or a disaster.
That's right, she never fully confirmed Eminem, I forgot about that. She said it would NOT be Kanye though, so that left Eminem, Eminem/Dre, Outkast, or some random guesses like RATM. But I think at that point it was beyond clear that Eminem was the headliner, I remember telling people that Eminem was going to headline.
Totally agree. I know I was telling people it was "likely Eminem" and I think I remember the discussions on here being more about "Will it be Em & Dre? Or will Dre show up?" after most felt that it was Eminem.
Well yeah, the point is that insider will give us whatever she chooses to give us, and can be very different from year to year. And just because insider said "early signs" pointed towards Radiohead/Prince/Furthur/LilWayne but all of them fell through means she was wrong, it just means that early negotiations with Wayne failed, but then they were able to secure him later, and we know that there were several high-profile last minute additions thanks to insider and AC's tweets.
Well put. I agree with everything you said here.
People point to that line about Wayne as Insider being wrong but it's not as simple as that.
I think its worthwhile to point out that (very) early signs were pointing to Radiohead, Prince, Lil Wayne and Furthur all performing this year - and none of them panned out....
This tells us a few things 1. Insider is not 100% correct on everything (Wayne) 2. Bonaroo was in discussions with RH, Prince, and Furthur 3. It is likely that if discussion broke down they would try again the next year. 4. Furthur is out if Phish is in 5. Could Prince be the headliner we haven't discussed much?
This.
I'm assuming they tried again for Radiohead and Prince, and also pursued Furthur but choose Phish instead (although a Furthur LN Which wouldn't be out of the question and if we don't get 2 nights of Phish, this is possible).
Seeing as we got Phish, I'm assuming we won't get Prince, Radiohead AND Prince (although I'd die a happy, happy man), so I'd assuming we have one of the two (with Macca and Stones as possibilities).
So I think the top of the lineup will look like:
Prince or Radiohead (maybe Macca or Stones, but they've tried for these 2) Phish x2 (possibility of Furthur for the LN slot) Foo Fighters or RHCP (Rage as a dark horse, but unlikely, and a possibility of the Killers or someone else similar) A handful of the following: The Beach Boys, Drake, The Shins, Bon Iver, Dispatch, Van Morrison, The Roots, The Raconteurs, Deadmau5, Allman Brothers Band, Death Cab for Cutie, ...