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Post by BRCHLD LFNT on Jan 19, 2012 11:56:50 GMT -5
Eminem is either a legend and a pop genius or the rap equivalent of Ricky Bobby depending on when you look at his career. Which makes Royce Da 5'9" become John C. Reilly.
I'm somehow insulted and overjoyed at this comparison. Not really sure what is going on in my head right now, although I want to yell at you and laugh at this all at once.
Eminem is an ICON. Not a legend. Yet... He may or may not achieve legend status, but calling him a legend at this point in his career is premature.
He has talent. Wrote some awesome songs. Had a gimmick. Sold tons of albums. Achieved quite a lot, fame wise but what has he actually achieved music wise? a lot of radio play, a bunch of wannabe's as fans at the height of his popularity and a horrible attitude.
Congratulations, you just described Rob Van Winkle.
Post by Enlightened1 on Jan 19, 2012 12:36:53 GMT -5
How I define a legend: If one hundred years have passed since you have left the earth and your work or your person is held in high regard or high disregard. That is legendary.
Post by Alberto Balsalm on Jan 19, 2012 12:39:46 GMT -5
LOL. Except for the fact that he's influenced pretty much every great rapper to come after him and will continue to influence rappers for generations to come. He changed the entire face of hip-hop, both literally and figuratively. Don't think Vanilla Ice did that. What a silly comparison
How I define a legend: If one hundred years have passed since you have left the earth and your work or your person is held in high regard or high disregard. That is legendary.
So leaves absolutely no one that has ever recorded an album as a legend. Ok then.
How I define a legend: If one hundred years have passed since you have left the earth and your work or your person is held in high regard or high disregard. That is legendary.
So leaves absolutely no one that has ever recorded an album as a legend. Ok then.
And by this logic there's no such thing as a "living legend"?
...and the Roofie for least intelligent post goes to.... (yeah that's right. A shameless plug for my "Roofie" thread)
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How I define a legend: If one hundred years have passed since you have left the earth and your work or your person is held in high regard or high disregard. That is legendary.
So leaves absolutely no one that has ever recorded an album as a legend. Ok then.
By my and only my opinion which matters only to me.This is correct. That being said at some point you know that more than one hundered years from now, people will still listen to, study and talk about Elvis, Michael Jackson, The Beatles and some others. Stevie Wonder? probably, Emeniem? maybe. Not being a rap hip hop person. It's not for me to even agree or disagree.
I'm somehow insulted and overjoyed at this comparison. Not really sure what is going on in my head right now, although I want to yell at you and laugh at this all at once.
You know its true! Everyone was thinking it, I mean, they look practically the same.
So leaves absolutely no one that has ever recorded an album as a legend. Ok then.
By my and only my opinion which matters only to me.This is correct. That being said at some point you know that more than one hundered years from now, people will still listen to, study and talk about Elvis, Michael Jackson, The Beatles and some others. Stevie Wonder? probably, Emeniem? maybe. Not being a rap hip hop person. It's not for me to even agree or disagree.
I understand your intent but by your logic even those bands you listed (Elvis, MJ, The Beatles) are not legends until they've been for 100 years.
Now if you say a legend is an artist or band that will still be talked about 100 years from now, you'd be onto something. (although i think 100 is a bit high of a number to hold anyone to)
Post by Enlightened1 on Jan 19, 2012 12:55:33 GMT -5
However by Definition Definition of LEGEND 1a : a story coming down from the past; especially : one popularly regarded as historical although not verifiable b : a body of such stories <a place in the legend of the frontier> c : a popular myth of recent origin d : a person or thing that inspires legends e : the subject of a legend <its violence was legend even in its own time — William Broyles Jr.> From Merriam Webster it is possible to be a living legend and possible for Emeniem and Stevie Wonder to be legends.
Post by BRCHLD LFNT on Jan 19, 2012 13:05:02 GMT -5
In other news, the Watch the Throne album has really grown on me in the last week or so. Other than Lift Off and Welcome to the Jungle, it's a pretty solid CD.
Also, I think Eminem might be very comparable to Michael Jackson. Slim Shady LP = Off the Wall - a new sound that a bunch of people latch on to. Marshall Mathers = Thriller - huge commercial breakthrough Eminem Show = Bad - similar sound but now commercialized, still near the peak but aiming down Encore = Dnagerous - a hit or two but everyone knows it isn't their best Curtain Call = HIStory - obvious Relapse/recovery = Invincible - best ignored.
In other news, the Watch the Throne album has really grown on me in the last week or so. Other than Lift Off and Welcome to the Jungle, it's a pretty solid CD.
Also, I think Eminem might be very comparable to Michael Jackson. Slim Shady LP = Off the Wall - a new sound that a bunch of people latch on to. Marshall Mathers = Thriller - huge commercial breakthrough Eminem Show = Bad - similar sound but now commercialized, still near the peak but aiming down Encore = Dnagerous - a hit or two but everyone knows it isn't their best Curtain Call = HIStory - obvious Relapse/recovery = Invincible - best ignored.
Post by BRCHLD LFNT on Jan 19, 2012 13:26:19 GMT -5
This thread is about comparing popular artists catalogs now.
THE CLASH VS NINE INCH NAILS!
The Clash/Pretty Hate Machine - a genre redefining album that brought tons of attention Give em enough rope/Broken - hardcore fans love these but they're relatively unknown to the casual fan. London Calling/The Downward Spiral - building on previous two, expanding their sound, both highly respected Sandanista!/The Fragile - too long double album, even hardcore fans are split on. Both, eith trimming, would rank near their 3rd album. Combat Rock/With Teeth - Refining their sound, giving up balls but gaining fans, a second peak
aaaand that's where the comparison ends because Cut The Crap isn't a real Clash album and Trent Reznor has made several since then. TaDa!
Post by hiddenzombie013 on Jan 19, 2012 13:26:40 GMT -5
Yeah, Eminem was the single biggest artist of the 2000's. He was a huge influence in the rap game, and helped rap ascend to the heights that it has in the modern music market. His status of being a legend is subjective, but either way, he will be remembered forever.