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Post by postreznorjack on Jan 20, 2012 15:25:01 GMT -5
might not be an accurate barometer of popularity, but I find myself checking the Facebook walls of a lot of different music festivals. far and away the most requested bands for any given festival are Daft Punk and Radiohead. too me they are the two bands that music festival attendees want at their music festivals more then any other.
Post by LittleRedGhost on Jan 20, 2012 15:28:46 GMT -5
Also I saw an interview with patrick karney in which he stated all the music festivals they have played blend together and fesitvals in general are unenjoyable to play. Sort of a let down to hear. But this definitely showed in 2011 when they looked unhappy and left the stage thirty minutes early
Does anyone else feel like The Black Keys are just getting their "15 minutes" from mainstream music right now, and their popularity will go down in a year or two? To me it's pretty obvious that Radiohead is the more popular band. People freak out when Radiohead does anything(release new albums, announce festivals, tour dates). The Black Keys have kinda just started to get really popular after the release of Brothers, and El Camino already seems less talked about to me. Radiohead have been on top in terms of alternative rock for a long time now. The Keys will become less popular in a couple years and RH will still be just as popular as today.
Also I saw an interview with patrick karney in which he stated all the music festivals they have played blend together and fesitvals in general are unenjoyable to play. Sort of a let down to hear. But this definitely showed in 2011 when they looked unhappy and left the stage thirty minutes early
I saw the Keys at Virgin this year. I was in the pit for them and of course excited as hell. They came out about a half hour late and played (I think) the exact same setlist that they did at Bonnaroo. Not saying it wasn't a great show but I too got the vibe that they didn't want to be there.
Post by FatKeystone on Jan 20, 2012 15:38:12 GMT -5
Regardless of who is more popular now (although I think it is Radiohead), Radiohead will go down as legends. The Keys will not. Like people have been saying, the Black Keys only really have one hugely popular album and their popularity probably has already peaked.
And please don't yell at me for calling RH legends. I don't want to argue what does and does not constitute a "legend."
This is the first message board I've ever been on, the only reason I joined is because I love Bonnaroo and wanted to read and talk about it all year long.
Radiohead is obviously huge, but their more of a cult band and big with hipsters/music freaks who overpopulate this board, so I think their appeal is a little exaggerated on here. I have two groups of friends: (a) those that are really, really into music and know all of the current trends and up to date information on bands, touring, etc. and frequent festivals/concerts and (b) those that like good music, but don't seek it out and really only hear what's being talked about in the mainstream. Group A thinks Radiohead is better than the Beatles and obsesses about them while only half of Group B even cares about Radiohead and even fewer love them. B is more inclined to like the Black Keys. I feel the Bonnaroo crowd is made up equally between the two, judging from the people I've met there and people I know that have gone. Not that there's anything wrong with either group.
The, "I know more people who like... " game is one of the worst things to say in an argument.
I've probably been guilty of this in the past as well but it's really unnecessary.
Yea that's why I posted about knowing more people who know MGMT over Radiohead. Everyone's experience and friends will be different. It doesn't prove a thing.
My dream lineup is mostly upper mid tier bands. My headliners would radiohead, gilmour/rogers/both, and led zepp. But my dream lineup would include wilco, the flaming lips, grizzly bear, and daft punk
Regardless of who is more popular now (although I think it is Radiohead), Radiohead will go down as legends. The Keys will not. Like people have been saying, the Black Keys only really have one hugely popular album and their popularity probably has already peaked.
Eh, why do people keep saying this? There's nothing to indicate that. El Camino was very good; I liked it more than Brothers. More and more of my friends are paying attention them. Granted they don't have a lot of room to extend their sound, but one could easily have said after The Bends that Radiohead was just a fad...
Also I saw an interview with patrick karney in which he stated all the music festivals they have played blend together and fesitvals in general are unenjoyable to play. Sort of a let down to hear. But this definitely showed in 2011 when they looked unhappy and left the stage thirty minutes early
I can understand that. I could see how they enjoy doing their own tours more because everyone is going specifically to see them play. What I don't understand is how you can stand up there on stage and look out to the large crowds festivals bring in and not get something from that. Reminds me of when Justin Townes Earle was speaking at the press conference in the media area last year at Bonnaroo. Turns out he's not a fan of playing festivals. He said it's intimidating to look out into the crowd and see people just wandering around and not really stopping to see his show. He also mentioned the sound is typically much worse at a festival than a club.
I know way more people who know MGMT more than Radiohead.
this can also be applied to my above post. MGMT has already lost popularity since their first album.
Big big difference here though.
MGMT got a lot of buzz for a solid debut album but they stage show was not really that good.
Black Keys have produced years of material and got really popular because they have such a good live show that tears your face off.
I think there will definitely be backlash/haters (i'm already seeing it a lot now) but I don't think they'll fade away to less buzz like MGMT seems to have done.
Also I saw an interview with patrick karney in which he stated all the music festivals they have played blend together and fesitvals in general are unenjoyable to play. Sort of a let down to hear. But this definitely showed in 2011 when they looked unhappy and left the stage thirty minutes early
I saw the Keys at Virgin this year. I was in the pit for them and of course excited as hell. They came out about a half hour late and played (I think) the exact same setlist that they did at Bonnaroo. Not saying it wasn't a great show but I too got the vibe that they didn't want to be there.
In all fairness .. I don't know many people who wanted to be at Virgin. Not even the people that were there.
This is the first message board I've ever been on, the only reason I joined is because I love Bonnaroo and wanted to read and talk about it all year long.
I saw the Keys at Virgin this year. I was in the pit for them and of course excited as hell. They came out about a half hour late and played (I think) the exact same setlist that they did at Bonnaroo. Not saying it wasn't a great show but I too got the vibe that they didn't want to be there.
In all fairness .. I don't know many people who wanted to be at Virgin. Not even the people that were there.
Haha agreed. I only went because it was free. The Keys and Cut Copy were the only bands I really cared about. And the huge bro crowd that came solely for Deadmau5 did not help make it any better.
Post by clevelndmike on Jan 20, 2012 15:48:58 GMT -5
Having lived and worked in Akron (in IT where there are a number of musicians) I've never been a Black Keys fans simply because my friends that play in area bands, to the person, think that both Patrick and Dan are rather large phalli. Not the best reason to look down on a band, but I've never heard a single positive thing about either of them as people...... so I am biased, but Radiohead is in an entirely different league.
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem
this can also be applied to my above post. MGMT has already lost popularity since their first album.
Big big difference here though.
MGMT got a lot of buzz for a solid debut album but they stage show was not really that good.
Black Keys have produced years of material and got really popular because they have such a good live show that tears your face off.
I think there will definitely be backlash/haters (i'm already seeing it a lot now) but I don't think they'll fade away to less buzz like MGMT seems to have done.
I don't think they got popular because of their live show, I think they got popular because Brothers was a great record, arguably their best, and it resonated with more people than their past records. I really think it's as simple as that. Their live show was good long before they got popular.
That's all I have to contribute to this silly argument.
(edit to clarify: Not saying what you're arguing is silly, saying this whole debate is silly/pointless.)
Also I saw an interview with patrick karney in which he stated all the music festivals they have played blend together and fesitvals in general are unenjoyable to play. Sort of a let down to hear. But this definitely showed in 2011 when they looked unhappy and left the stage thirty minutes early
I can understand that. I could see how they enjoy doing their own tours more because everyone is going specifically to see them play. What I don't understand is how you can stand up there on stage and look out to the large crowds festivals bring in and not get something from that. Reminds me of when Justin Townes Earle was speaking at the press conference in the media area last year at Bonnaroo. Turns out he's not a fan of playing festivals. He said it's intimidating to look out into the crowd and see people just wandering around and not really stopping to see his show. He also mentioned the sound is typically much worse at a festival than a club.
To add onto that....a lot of acts don't like playing in the hot, hot tennesee heat in the middle of the day for a shortened set.
One of my favorite bands The Felice Brothers talk about how they like it to be dark when they play and they also don't prefer festival sets.