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So I think they will want to keep that interest up, if possible, with a more current and popular artist at the top. Thats all.
Who would you classify as more current and popular than Radiohead? Just wondering who you'd put in their place.
Actually, I was more referring to RHCP. Radiohead is the big GET for festivals, everyone wants them. They have a huge, rabid fan base that will turn out. And they have music that is meant for festivals. I feel RHCP are kind of occupying current, popular band if the line-up is RH - Phish - RHCP (a la Arcade Fire last year). They have a new album, the large tour, etc. But I just don't put them in the same league as Muse, Black Keys, or maybe even The Killers in terms of a band that casual music fans would turn out for.
Who would you classify as more current and popular than Radiohead? Just wondering who you'd put in their place.
Actually, I was more referring to RHCP. Radiohead is the big GET for festivals, everyone wants them. They have a huge, rabid fan base that will turn out. And they have music that is meant for festivals. I feel RHCP are kind of occupying current, popular band if the line-up is RH - Phish - RHCP (a la Arcade Fire last year). They have a new album, the large tour, etc. But I just don't put them in the same league as Muse, Black Keys, or maybe even The Killers in terms of a band that casual music fans would turn out for.
Red Hot Chili Peppers would definitely have an appeal to casual music fans, even more so than Muse or The Killers. You've got it twisted, RHCP has less appeal for our kind, and HUGE appeal to casual music fans.
MGMT got a lot of buzz for a solid debut album but they stage show was not really that good.
Black Keys have produced years of material and got really popular because they have such a good live show that tears your face off.
I think there will definitely be backlash/haters (i'm already seeing it a lot now) but I don't think they'll fade away to less buzz like MGMT seems to have done.
I don't think they got popular because of their live show, I think they got popular because Brothers was a great record, arguably their best, and it resonated with more people than their past records. I really think it's as simple as that. Their live show was good long before they got popular.
That's all I have to contribute to this silly argument.
(edit to clarify: Not saying what you're arguing is silly, saying this whole debate is silly/pointless.)
So there were no Black Keys fans before Brothers?
My point was that Black Keys built up a following by touring and putting out good albums. Myself and many other music fans knew who the Black Keys were long before Brothers hit. MGMT had a lot of buzz off of one album and in particular one huge single. But they had not proven themselves as great musicians or a touring act yet.
Yes, Black Keys mainstream popularity exploded with that album....but my point was that they were on their way anyway as opposed to MGMT who had the right song at the right time.
Ask the average person to sing/hum/name RHCP songs, then do the same for Radiohead. My money is RHCP by a landslide. They have regular spins on nearly any rock format these days.
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Are you talking "headliner sized" only bands? If so, then something like:
Really just what your (anyone's) ideal top 3 headliners would be. Doesn't matter if they have tour dates elsewhere or if they are taking a break for a year.....just the three bands/artists that would make you the most happiest at the top.
Daft Punk - OutKast - RATM/RHCP/Phish/Depeche Mode/The Cure
didn't put radiohead cause ill be seeing them at coachella but that IN NO WAY means that i don't want them there. going from never seeing radiohead before to seeing them 2x at the the two biggest music festivals in the country sounds like a nice 2012 to me
Ask the average person to sing/hum/name RHCP songs, then do the same for Radiohead. My money is RHCP by a landslide. They have regular spins on nearly any rock format these days.
This still doesn't make up for the fact that RHCP are shit live
Ask the average person to sing/hum/name RHCP songs, then do the same for Radiohead. My money is RHCP by a landslide. They have regular spins on nearly any rock format these days.
This still doesn't make up for the fact that RHCP are poop live
Oh they aren't complete poop. As of the Stadium tour, they just seemed bored. Maybe having a new guitarist has energized them? And I've been thinking about it. I think I'd definitely trade Eminem of last year for RHCP. I'd also take RHCP over KoL or Dave Matthews from the year before.
Assuming we get Phish, that's a definite step up from the WSP slot. I can handle RHCP assuming we get another big name act that's more exciting. Radiohead's what I want, but Bonnaroo persuaded me with less in 2010 and that ended up being my favorite Roo.
Actually, I was more referring to RHCP. Radiohead is the big GET for festivals, everyone wants them. They have a huge, rabid fan base that will turn out. And they have music that is meant for festivals. I feel RHCP are kind of occupying current, popular band if the line-up is RH - Phish - RHCP (a la Arcade Fire last year). They have a new album, the large tour, etc. But I just don't put them in the same league as Muse, Black Keys, or maybe even The Killers in terms of a band that casual music fans would turn out for.
Red Hot Chili Peppers would definitely have an appeal to casual music fans, even more so than Muse or The Killers. You've got it twisted, RHCP has less appeal for our kind, and HUGE appeal to casual music fans.
Maybe its ONLY all of my friends and 90% of this board, but none of them are excited for RHCP. Several have said, well it'll be a good nap time before LN shows. I personally no of no one excited for RHCP at Roo. And I know several that would be up for Muse, BK or Killers instead.
Ask the average person to sing/hum/name RHCP songs, then do the same for Radiohead. My money is RHCP by a landslide. They have regular spins on nearly any rock format these days.
This still doesn't make up for the fact that RHCP are poop live
The new guitarist isn't half bad and Chad Smith/ Flea are excellent musicians. I understand the meh factor for a lot of people, but Roo could, and has done a lot worse.
Red Hot Chili Peppers would definitely have an appeal to casual music fans, even more so than Muse or The Killers. You've got it twisted, RHCP has less appeal for our kind, and HUGE appeal to casual music fans.
Maybe its ONLY all of my friends and 90% of this board, but none of them are excited for RHCP. Several have said, well it'll be a good nap time before LN shows. I personally no of no one excited for RHCP at Roo. And I know several that would be up for Muse, BK or Killers instead.
RHCP falls in the same category as Metallica, The Police, and Eminem do for me.
They're a big act that I'm interested in seeing because I've never seen them live. I likely will not be buying a ticket to a regular concert by these artists anytime soon so I look at the headlining Roo set as a way to see the act but also not waste money on something I'm not dying to see.
I'd be perfectly happy with RHCP and catch most of their show but I'm also not going to cry if they're left off the lineup.
This still doesn't make up for the fact that RHCP are poop live
Oh they aren't complete poop. As of the Stadium tour, they just seemed bored. Maybe having a new guitarist has energized them? And I've been thinking about it. I think I'd definitely trade Eminem of last year for RHCP. I'd also take RHCP over KoL or Dave Matthews from the year before.
Assuming we get Phish, that's a definite step up from the WSP slot. I can handle RHCP assuming we get another big name act that's more exciting. Radiohead's what I want, but Bonnaroo persuaded me with less in 2010 and that ended up being my favorite Roo.
I can only go on personal experience and they were horrible on the One Hot Minute, Californication, and By the Way tours. Not only that were always completely blown out by their openers on each tour (though they did grab quality opening acts).
Post by Mr.BelgianManders on Jan 20, 2012 16:19:57 GMT -5
Paul McCartney | Red Hot Chili Peppers | Phish The Beach Boys | The Raconteurs | Paul Simon The Roots | String Cheese Incident | The Shins | Florence + The Machine
Friday The Raconteurs -> RHCP Florence + The Machine
Saturday The Beach Boys -> Paul McCartney Paul Simon -> The Roots LN
Paul McCartney | Red Hot Chili Peppers | Phish The Beach Boys | The Raconteurs | Paul Simon The Roots | String Cheese Incident | The Shins | Florence + The Machine
Friday The Raconteurs -> RHCP Florence + The Machine
Saturday The Beach Boys -> Paul McCartney Paul Simon -> The Roots LN
Sunday SCI -> Phish The Shins
if they had Paul Simon and the Beach Boys there I doubt they would schedule them to overlap
Maybe its ONLY all of my friends and 90% of this board, but none of them are excited for RHCP. Several have said, well it'll be a good nap time before LN shows. I personally no of no one excited for RHCP at Roo. And I know several that would be up for Muse, BK or Killers instead.
RHCP falls in the same category as Metallica, The Police, and Eminem do for me.
They're a big act that I'm interested in seeing because I've never seen them live. I likely will not be buying a ticket to a regular concert by these artists anytime soon so I look at the headlining Roo set as a way to see the act but also not waste money on something I'm not dying to see.
I'd be perfectly happy with RHCP and catch most of their show but I'm also not going to cry if they're left off the lineup.
This is exactly how I feel. Every year we complain about one headliner and 1/2 the time we're pleasantly surprised with how little they suck. I can't speak unbiased to the whole Metallica thing because I personally love Metallica, but I feel like most bands will throw together their best setlist for a festival like Bonnaroo.
So basically I'm trying to stay positive and hope that RHCP turns out like KoL or Metallica instead of Eminem who I personally think was the worst Bonnaroo headliner yet (and I was kind of excited to see him).
For me, the worst part of getting RHCP is that pretty much rules out Foo Fighters. I need some Dave Grohl dammit!
Paul McCartney | Red Hot Chili Peppers | Phish The Beach Boys | The Raconteurs | Paul Simon The Roots | String Cheese Incident | The Shins | Florence + The Machine
Friday The Raconteurs -> RHCP Florence + The Machine
Saturday The Beach Boys -> Paul McCartney Paul Simon -> The Roots LN
Sunday SCI -> Phish The Shins
if they had Paul Simon and the Beach Boys there I doubt they would schedule them to overlap
Paul McCartney | Red Hot Chili Peppers | Phish The Beach Boys | The Raconteurs | Paul Simon The Roots | String Cheese Incident | The Shins | Florence + The Machine
Friday The Raconteurs -> RHCP Florence + The Machine
Saturday The Beach Boys -> Paul McCartney Paul Simon -> The Roots LN
Sunday SCI -> Phish The Shins
while i love that lineup, 3 of the top 4 acts on saturday aren't going to come from the same era of music
This is the first message board I've ever been on, the only reason I joined is because I love Bonnaroo and wanted to read and talk about it all year long.
Maybe its ONLY all of my friends and 90% of this board, but none of them are excited for RHCP. Several have said, well it'll be a good nap time before LN shows. I personally no of no one excited for RHCP at Roo. And I know several that would be up for Muse, BK or Killers instead.
RHCP falls in the same category as Metallica, The Police, and Eminem do for me.
They're a big act that I'm interested in seeing because I've never seen them live. I likely will not be buying a ticket to a regular concert by these artists anytime soon so I look at the headlining Roo set as a way to see the act but also not waste money on something I'm not dying to see.
I'd be perfectly happy with RHCP and catch most of their show but I'm also not going to cry if they're left off the lineup.
Yea, I totally get that. They're more of an "eh, I guess I'll catch some of the show" type of band, whereas I want an, "omg I have to see that show" kind of band. But I guess thats all based on my preference. I'm sure lots of people would love to see them. Maybe I'm just spoiled by last year with AF, MMJ, BK, even Eminem, HL'ing artists that are at their peak making/playing great music.
seriously, the roots are not gonna be top 10. even if john legend was with them
They were at 18 in 2007. With the Fallon spot and their latest album getting awesome reviews I could see them potentially move up some spots. Depends on who the other top acts are but I wouldn't be surprised to see Roots in the (bottom of the) Top 10.