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I will say it's not as bad since I bought a real winter coat in Chicago, December 2019. I never realized the coats they sell in the south aren't really winter coats. I just assumed the humid 40/30° cold cut through all coats.
I went to Fort Collins/Denver during the spring in 2012 to play roller derby. It was the perfect weather, other than some fires in the distance. Plus, weed's legal. It's too bad it gets freezing there.
At the beginning of February in Chicago it got down to around 0-ish and like -20 with wind chill. And this winter we got about 50 inches of snow, the most the city has gotten since '79. The last few days it's been in the high 40s and it genuinely feels like summer.
Bragging about surviving the cold isn't interesting at all but I bring it up because I'm from Atlanta and this is my first real winter. The worst weather I'd ever felt was an ice storm in Atlanta where it got down to like 10 degrees first thing in the morning. Don't be afraid of the cold. If a city you want to move to regularly gets snow and you know how to layer up properly then you'll likely be fine.
At the beginning of February in Chicago it got down to around 0-ish and like -20 with wind chill. And this winter we got about 50 inches of snow, the most the city has gotten since '79. The last few days it's been in the high 40s and it genuinely feels like summer.
Bragging about surviving the cold isn't interesting at all but I bring it up because I'm from Atlanta and this is my first real winter. The worst weather I'd ever felt was an ice storm in Atlanta where it got down to like 10 degrees first thing in the morning. Don't be afraid of the cold. If a city you want to move to regularly gets snow and you know how to layer up properly then you'll likely be fine.
Yeah this honestly been the most brutal winter since 2011. We've had polar vortexes or snow, but rarely both
Post by justinmn9319 on Mar 4, 2021 10:13:49 GMT -5
so weird because this has been one of the weakest winters in MN as far as temps go. we had about two weeks of single digit and below zero highs. those were the only days all winter that cold and that's quite rare for us
TikTok is truly amazing. I don't care that I'm twice the age of most of the people on it, it makes me laugh/think/feel something/etc daily. It's really helped brighten up this dark time.
100%. so far it seems like tiktok is managing to avoid that thing where the hot new social media site turns into just hateful trolling, bad faith arguments, and dunking. i think maybe because there is a music focus it keeps things more fun and light hearted.
i'm still a tiktok beginner though so maybe i just haven't found the dark underbelly yet but i don't think it exists.
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At the beginning of February in Chicago it got down to around 0-ish and like -20 with wind chill. And this winter we got about 50 inches of snow, the most the city has gotten since '79. The last few days it's been in the high 40s and it genuinely feels like summer.
Bragging about surviving the cold isn't interesting at all but I bring it up because I'm from Atlanta and this is my first real winter. The worst weather I'd ever felt was an ice storm in Atlanta where it got down to like 10 degrees first thing in the morning. Don't be afraid of the cold. If a city you want to move to regularly gets snow and you know how to layer up properly then you'll likely be fine.
This is reassuring. I've been in Arizona for about a decade now (holy shiz?!?). Not going out bc of covid obv had an influence, but I never wore more than a hoodie and I haven't put on pants of any kind in over a year, except for a couple days when I had to go into work. I spent april-september in board shorts and tank tops. It was 82 yesterday and the kids played with the water table...
But, the wife finishes her PhD and my current research funding runs out at the end of the year, so we're shopping for cities and jobs. Going somewhere cold is terrifying. Growing up memphis had a couple cold spells, but never a "winter" and similar for my wife. We'd probably have to drop $1k on winter coats and gloves and boots and stuff, but just the thought dealing with snow and cold below like 40 on a regular basis (and not 300+ days of sunshine) seems terrifying. Boston, twin cities MN, and DC have a big market for my niche, but the thought of going to any of those places seems scary.
But, the wife finishes her PhD and my current research funding runs out at the end of the year, so we're shopping for cities and jobs. Going somewhere cold is terrifying. Growing up memphis had a couple cold spells, but never a "winter" and similar for my wife. We'd probably have to drop $1k on winter coats and gloves and boots and stuff, but just the thought dealing with snow and cold below like 40 on a regular basis (and not 300+ days of sunshine) seems terrifying. Boston, twin cities MN, and DC have a big market for my niche, but the thought of going to any of those places seems scary.
I might be biased, since I was born in Mass and a lifelong New Englander, but the cold isn't that bad. You get used to it. Ever since the snow blitz of 2015, our winters have been at or below normal for snowfall. And the temps rarely fall below zero.
The worst part about winter here: it gets dark out before 5 pm in Nov, Dec, and Jan.
At the beginning of February in Chicago it got down to around 0-ish and like -20 with wind chill. And this winter we got about 50 inches of snow, the most the city has gotten since '79. The last few days it's been in the high 40s and it genuinely feels like summer.
Bragging about surviving the cold isn't interesting at all but I bring it up because I'm from Atlanta and this is my first real winter. The worst weather I'd ever felt was an ice storm in Atlanta where it got down to like 10 degrees first thing in the morning. Don't be afraid of the cold. If a city you want to move to regularly gets snow and you know how to layer up properly then you'll likely be fine.
This is reassuring. I've been in Arizona for about a decade now (holy shiz?!?). Not going out bc of covid obv had an influence, but I never wore more than a hoodie and I haven't put on pants of any kind in over a year, except for a couple days when I had to go into work. I spent april-september in board shorts and tank tops. It was 82 yesterday and the kids played with the water table...
But, the wife finishes her PhD and my current research funding runs out at the end of the year, so we're shopping for cities and jobs. Going somewhere cold is terrifying. Growing up memphis had a couple cold spells, but never a "winter" and similar for my wife. We'd probably have to drop $1k on winter coats and gloves and boots and stuff, but just the thought dealing with snow and cold below like 40 on a regular basis (and not 300+ days of sunshine) seems terrifying. Boston, twin cities MN, and DC have a big market for my niche, but the thought of going to any of those places seems scary.
You can definitely handle it. The cost to get everything is mainly what I would worry about. I think most of my new wardrobe would be like $800-ish but I got everything on sale. That's for a parka, winter boots, leggings, better gloves, and a nice running jacket and then like a snow shovel and scraper to leave in my car. I got everything on off-season sale though so it was maybe half of that.
As far as just getting around the city, that's been totally fine. Walking to the L or going grocery shopping isn't bad because the city is built to handle it and deals with snow on the ground and putting out heaters fairly well. That being said, ask me how I feel next year haha. It's still novel right now so a couple feet of snow on the ground is still exciting instead of irritating.
This is reassuring. I've been in Arizona for about a decade now (holy shiz?!?). Not going out bc of covid obv had an influence, but I never wore more than a hoodie and I haven't put on pants of any kind in over a year, except for a couple days when I had to go into work. I spent april-september in board shorts and tank tops. It was 82 yesterday and the kids played with the water table...
But, the wife finishes her PhD and my current research funding runs out at the end of the year, so we're shopping for cities and jobs. Going somewhere cold is terrifying. Growing up memphis had a couple cold spells, but never a "winter" and similar for my wife. We'd probably have to drop $1k on winter coats and gloves and boots and stuff, but just the thought dealing with snow and cold below like 40 on a regular basis (and not 300+ days of sunshine) seems terrifying. Boston, twin cities MN, and DC have a big market for my niche, but the thought of going to any of those places seems scary.
You can definitely handle it. The cost to get everything is mainly what I would worry about. I think most of my new wardrobe would be like $800-ish but I got everything on sale. That's for a parka, winter boots, leggings, better gloves, and a nice running jacket and then like a snow shovel and scraper to leave in my car. I got everything on off-season sale though so it was maybe half of that.
As far as just getting around the city, that's been totally fine. Walking to the L or going grocery shopping isn't bad because the city is built to handle it and deals with snow on the ground and putting out heaters fairly well. That being said, ask me how I feel next year haha. It's still novel right now so a couple feet of snow on the ground is still exciting instead of irritating.
my buddy moved to chicago years ago - he did college at Bradley though so he's used to the cold. he offered to drive to AZ (his brother lives in scotsdale - the worst place on earth), sell me his old toyota corolla for cheap, and fly home if I paid for the flight. in retrospect it was a great deal. He was tired of dealing with scraping his windshield and paying for parking and moving it for street sweeping and paying insurance etc. because he just took the train or walked everywhere. he said he spent less on trains/cabs than insurance and parking, so it just wasn't even worth it to have a car. that part would be cool, tbh. I miss riding my bike everywhere i needed to go.
I'm in Chicago and if I didn't have a dog I'd definitely get rid of my car. That's the only part about the snow/ice that sucks for me personally, it's very difficult to convince him to go out and to find somewhere where he'll even go. Otherwise I feel like the cold isn't that bad
At the beginning of February in Chicago it got down to around 0-ish and like -20 with wind chill. And this winter we got about 50 inches of snow, the most the city has gotten since '79. The last few days it's been in the high 40s and it genuinely feels like summer.
Bragging about surviving the cold isn't interesting at all but I bring it up because I'm from Atlanta and this is my first real winter. The worst weather I'd ever felt was an ice storm in Atlanta where it got down to like 10 degrees first thing in the morning. Don't be afraid of the cold. If a city you want to move to regularly gets snow and you know how to layer up properly then you'll likely be fine.
This is reassuring. I've been in Arizona for about a decade now (holy shiz?!?). Not going out bc of covid obv had an influence, but I never wore more than a hoodie and I haven't put on pants of any kind in over a year, except for a couple days when I had to go into work. I spent april-september in board shorts and tank tops. It was 82 yesterday and the kids played with the water table...
But, the wife finishes her PhD and my current research funding runs out at the end of the year, so we're shopping for cities and jobs. Going somewhere cold is terrifying. Growing up memphis had a couple cold spells, but never a "winter" and similar for my wife. We'd probably have to drop $1k on winter coats and gloves and boots and stuff, but just the thought dealing with snow and cold below like 40 on a regular basis (and not 300+ days of sunshine) seems terrifying. Boston, twin cities MN, and DC have a big market for my niche, but the thought of going to any of those places seems scary.
At the beginning of February in Chicago it got down to around 0-ish and like -20 with wind chill. And this winter we got about 50 inches of snow, the most the city has gotten since '79. The last few days it's been in the high 40s and it genuinely feels like summer.
Bragging about surviving the cold isn't interesting at all but I bring it up because I'm from Atlanta and this is my first real winter. The worst weather I'd ever felt was an ice storm in Atlanta where it got down to like 10 degrees first thing in the morning. Don't be afraid of the cold. If a city you want to move to regularly gets snow and you know how to layer up properly then you'll likely be fine.
Yeah this honestly been the most brutal winter since 2011. We've had polar vortexes or snow, but rarely both
The last couple of years have definitely not been this bad, at least since I moved here in 2016
You can definitely handle it. The cost to get everything is mainly what I would worry about. I think most of my new wardrobe would be like $800-ish but I got everything on sale. That's for a parka, winter boots, leggings, better gloves, and a nice running jacket and then like a snow shovel and scraper to leave in my car. I got everything on off-season sale though so it was maybe half of that.
As far as just getting around the city, that's been totally fine. Walking to the L or going grocery shopping isn't bad because the city is built to handle it and deals with snow on the ground and putting out heaters fairly well. That being said, ask me how I feel next year haha. It's still novel right now so a couple feet of snow on the ground is still exciting instead of irritating.
my buddy moved to chicago years ago - he did college at Bradley though so he's used to the cold. he offered to drive to AZ (his brother lives in scotsdale - the worst place on earth), sell me his old toyota corolla for cheap, and fly home if I paid for the flight. in retrospect it was a great deal. He was tired of dealing with scraping his windshield and paying for parking and moving it for street sweeping and paying insurance etc. because he just took the train or walked everywhere. he said he spent less on trains/cabs than insurance and parking, so it just wasn't even worth it to have a car. that part would be cool, tbh. I miss riding my bike everywhere i needed to go.
I moved here Labor Day weekend and have filled up gas three times since then. If I get a full-time job here after school, I am absolutely selling the car. You just don't need it. If I stay freelancing then that's another story.
And yea biking in the city is amazing. The flat ground and, you know, actual bike lanes are a huge upgrade from Atlanta. The Twin Cities actually have some of the best biking in the country ... just saying.
my buddy moved to chicago years ago - he did college at Bradley though so he's used to the cold. he offered to drive to AZ (his brother lives in scotsdale - the worst place on earth), sell me his old toyota corolla for cheap, and fly home if I paid for the flight. in retrospect it was a great deal. He was tired of dealing with scraping his windshield and paying for parking and moving it for street sweeping and paying insurance etc. because he just took the train or walked everywhere. he said he spent less on trains/cabs than insurance and parking, so it just wasn't even worth it to have a car. that part would be cool, tbh. I miss riding my bike everywhere i needed to go.
I moved here Labor Day weekend and have filled up gas three times since then. If I get a full-time job here after school, I am absolutely selling the car. You just don't need it. If I stay freelancing then that's another story.
And yea biking in the city is amazing. The flat ground and, you know, actual bike lanes are a huge upgrade from Atlanta. The Twin Cities actually have some of the best biking in the country ... just saying.
lol that's crazy, I thought atlantas bike lanes were next level, even jack black mentioned how he liked them during the Ds set at shaky.
my buddy moved to chicago years ago - he did college at Bradley though so he's used to the cold. he offered to drive to AZ (his brother lives in scotsdale - the worst place on earth), sell me his old toyota corolla for cheap, and fly home if I paid for the flight. in retrospect it was a great deal. He was tired of dealing with scraping his windshield and paying for parking and moving it for street sweeping and paying insurance etc. because he just took the train or walked everywhere. he said he spent less on trains/cabs than insurance and parking, so it just wasn't even worth it to have a car. that part would be cool, tbh. I miss riding my bike everywhere i needed to go.
I moved here Labor Day weekend and have filled up gas three times since then. If I get a full-time job here after school, I am absolutely selling the car. You just don't need it. If I stay freelancing then that's another story.
And yea biking in the city is amazing. The flat ground and, you know, actual bike lanes are a huge upgrade from Atlanta. The Twin Cities actually have some of the best biking in the country ... just saying.
yeah, I need to get a real city/road bike. I bought and built a sweet cross country mountain rig when I was in knoxville - super light, medium travel, a more speedy stance - but it doesn't hold up here in AZ. Just not built for the downhill and heavy duty desert stuff needed here. I converted it to a "city" bike with some skinnier flats and stuff which is great for neighborhood rides with the kids and stuff, but it's a weird fish out of water for any real biking. jack of all trades, so not ideal anywhere. I have been setting aside a small "bike fund" for wherever we end up to get something fit for the area - probably a city commuter or road bike. I come home too bloody for the wife to let me keep riding mountains.
This is reassuring. I've been in Arizona for about a decade now (holy shiz?!?). Not going out bc of covid obv had an influence, but I never wore more than a hoodie and I haven't put on pants of any kind in over a year, except for a couple days when I had to go into work. I spent april-september in board shorts and tank tops. It was 82 yesterday and the kids played with the water table...
But, the wife finishes her PhD and my current research funding runs out at the end of the year, so we're shopping for cities and jobs. Going somewhere cold is terrifying. Growing up memphis had a couple cold spells, but never a "winter" and similar for my wife. We'd probably have to drop $1k on winter coats and gloves and boots and stuff, but just the thought dealing with snow and cold below like 40 on a regular basis (and not 300+ days of sunshine) seems terrifying. Boston, twin cities MN, and DC have a big market for my niche, but the thought of going to any of those places seems scary.
San Diego could be a nice option!
Yes snowmanomura come here! Lots of research and zero snow and very low humidity.
Yes snowmanomura come here! Lots of research and zero snow and very low humidity.
I would absolutely love San Diego. One of the guys from my lab lives there. I've only been once, for a conference, but it was a blast. I went sailing and then got drunk at a hidden alice in wonderland bar, then nursed a hangover overlooking the marina and saw a weird pirate ship go back and forth. Most of my time was in gas lamp/conference area, but we stayed at an airbnb in the sunset cliffs area for a couple days and watching waves crash after dark is very meditative. We climbed this giant boulder on the beach one night and had to scramble down as tide came in so we wouldn't get stuck lol.
The only downside to san Diego (and most of CA in general) is cost of living. I'm spoiled; phoenix is cheap ( My mortgage is cheaper than anything Ive ever rented - but getting more expensive with all the CA transplants), sunny, and warm. But both our families are back east in TN and NC, so it'd be nice to get closer than further. Of the US cities I've been to, San Diego and denver are my favorites and would be top choices if we weren't including job prospects and family life.
Yes snowmanomura come here! Lots of research and zero snow and very low humidity.
I would absolutely love San Diego. One of the guys from my lab lives there. I've only been once, for a conference, but it was a blast. I went sailing and then got drunk at a hidden alice in wonderland bar, then nursed a hangover overlooking the marina and saw a weird pirate ship go back and forth. Most of my time was in gas lamp/conference area, but we stayed at an airbnb in the sunset cliffs area for a couple days and watching waves crash after dark is very meditative. We climbed this giant boulder on the beach one night and had to scramble down as tide came in so we wouldn't get stuck lol.
The only downside to san Diego (and most of CA in general) is cost of living. I'm spoiled; phoenix is cheap ( My mortgage is cheaper than anything Ive ever rented - but getting more expensive with all the CA transplants), sunny, and warm. But both our families are back east in TN and NC, so it'd be nice to get closer than further. Of the US cities I've been to, San Diego and denver are my favorites and would be top choices if we weren't including job prospects and family life.
It is expensive, but for me it's worth it to love where you live
so weird because this has been one of the weakest winters in MN as far as temps go. we had about two weeks of single digit and below zero highs. those were the only days all winter that cold and that's quite rare for us
And not a ton of snow either. We had those stupid snow storms in October but otherwise pretty easy. My winter coat got put back in the closet this week and the light jacket is already in use for walks.
I would absolutely love San Diego. One of the guys from my lab lives there. I've only been once, for a conference, but it was a blast. I went sailing and then got drunk at a hidden alice in wonderland bar, then nursed a hangover overlooking the marina and saw a weird pirate ship go back and forth. Most of my time was in gas lamp/conference area, but we stayed at an airbnb in the sunset cliffs area for a couple days and watching waves crash after dark is very meditative. We climbed this giant boulder on the beach one night and had to scramble down as tide came in so we wouldn't get stuck lol.
The only downside to san Diego (and most of CA in general) is cost of living. I'm spoiled; phoenix is cheap ( My mortgage is cheaper than anything Ive ever rented - but getting more expensive with all the CA transplants), sunny, and warm. But both our families are back east in TN and NC, so it'd be nice to get closer than further. Of the US cities I've been to, San Diego and denver are my favorites and would be top choices if we weren't including job prospects and family life.
It is expensive, but for me it's worth it to love where you live
I totally get that. It would absolutely be worth it for me, in a vacuum.
My dad is an engineering consultant, and was in, of all places Corona CA, when covid hit and spiked his whole job (which was building racecars for saleen and a Chinese company based near Wuhan - the whole thing is funny in a weird way). He lived his whole life in MI, TN, and a short stint in TX. his perception of CA was very...skewed. After living there though he loved everything about it and he and my mom were looking at moving out there.
I'd move to CA and eat the cost in a heartbeat, tbh. But my dad went back to TN, and my parents are decidedly there for the long haul. they're both gearing up for retirement. I'm dealing with "where do i want to live?" and "where should I live?" - knowing my kids haven't seen any of their grandparents in a long time and, as someone who didn't get to spend a lot of time with their grandparents, got to spend a lot of time with my kids over the past year - I think prioritizing them spending time together is more important than where i want to ideally live or ideally work. That sounds way more self-righteous than i want it to.
tl; dr: i love the idea of love where you live, but i am not prioritizing love where you live because the places I want to live are not wife/family/extended family conducive. so it goes.
The worst part about winter here: it gets dark out before 5 pm in Nov, Dec, and Jan.
This may be a silly question, but does that not happen everywhere in the US?
Depends on where you live (east/west) within a time zone.
I lived on the literal border of Central / Mountain time zones. I now live 8 hours east in MN still in Central and it’s a good difference. But you have the same shift in the morning as well (sun comes up in the east)
If you play golf either early in the morning or late at night, you’ll notice the difference.
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I moved here Labor Day weekend and have filled up gas three times since then. If I get a full-time job here after school, I am absolutely selling the car. You just don't need it. If I stay freelancing then that's another story.
And yea biking in the city is amazing. The flat ground and, you know, actual bike lanes are a huge upgrade from Atlanta. The Twin Cities actually have some of the best biking in the country ... just saying.
lol that's crazy, I thought atlantas bike lanes were next level, even jack black mentioned how he liked them during the Ds set at shaky.
It's getting better but overall the bike infrastructure is severely lacking. It's mostly sharrows with a few dedicated bike lanes in high traffic areas but nothing separated/protected from the road. There are nice multi-use trails called The Beltline and The Path that are nice for biking on but those are only in affluent areas (or areas that developers would love to turn into affluent areas). The city is so damn spread out and truly designed only for cars so it's going to be a long, tough battle to change that.
The best bike cities in the US, generally, are Portland, Seattle, NYC, Minneapolis, Denver, DC, and Chicago. Lots of smaller cities like Fort Collins, Madison, and Tucson get listed highly because they actually invested in the infrastructure and pretty easily covered their whole city. Really, the best indicator of a good bike city is having myriad non-car options.
I moved here Labor Day weekend and have filled up gas three times since then. If I get a full-time job here after school, I am absolutely selling the car. You just don't need it. If I stay freelancing then that's another story.
And yea biking in the city is amazing. The flat ground and, you know, actual bike lanes are a huge upgrade from Atlanta. The Twin Cities actually have some of the best biking in the country ... just saying.
yeah, I need to get a real city/road bike. I bought and built a sweet cross country mountain rig when I was in knoxville - super light, medium travel, a more speedy stance - but it doesn't hold up here in AZ. Just not built for the downhill and heavy duty desert stuff needed here. I converted it to a "city" bike with some skinnier flats and stuff which is great for neighborhood rides with the kids and stuff, but it's a weird fish out of water for any real biking. jack of all trades, so not ideal anywhere. I have been setting aside a small "bike fund" for wherever we end up to get something fit for the area - probably a city commuter or road bike. I come home too bloody for the wife to let me keep riding mountains.
ha I have almost an identical bike, I would imagine. It's like 25 pounds of steel and has flat bars, a bunch of gears, and skinny-ish tires. It was perfect for when I commuted 16 miles round trip through Atlanta for work. But then I moved about 4 miles away from my office and my neighbor gifted me a light as hell aluminum single-gear and that thing is fun as HELL to ride. I had to put it up for the winter here but I'm so stoked to put some miles on it soon.
If you've got that nice tooling around bike already then I vote for a sweet carbon fiber road bike so you can get some serious miles in on those long, straight roads out in Phoenix.
This may be a silly question, but does that not happen everywhere in the US?
Depends on where you live (east/west) within a time zone.
I lived on the literal border of Central / Mountain time zones. I now live 8 hours east in MN still in Central and it’s a good difference. But you have the same shift in the morning as well (sun comes up in the east)
If you play golf either early in the morning or late at night, you’ll notice the difference.
It also varies on what latitude (north-south) you're on as well. Florida has less of a variation on length of day as it does in New England.
I think there's parts of northern/eastern Maine where sunset is just before 4 pm in December