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What are some suggestions for the tents next year? I think a given is bigger. Along with more lights. The production value is lacking for the size of the fest.
I agree that bigger tents could help, but the lighting is usually pretty good for the LN shows. I doubt they will pour a ton of money into lighting seeing as the majority of the shows in the tents are during the day. Screens would be great! Its often hard to see the stage unless youre right in the mix of things. Fans......wont do anything in the TN heat! Surround speakers would be cool if the show was in your basement..... .....and personally, I love the sand!
Other than screens I can't imagine any improvements to really be made to the Other/This/That tents. I don't think they need to be bigger; personally I've had very little trouble tryin' to get as close as I want in these areas. I actually feel the sand is an improvement since my inaugural year in 2007 (where I remember some kind of mulch or just grass, correct me if I'm wrong). Lightin' has always been on point, exemptin' the loss of power to parts of the signs this year. And screens I don't feel are really necessary, but hey if it'll help those toward the way back (where I have been a few times, Crystal Castles in '09 comes to mind) see more then I'm all fer it.
Post by NotMitchelBade on Aug 6, 2011 11:46:54 GMT -5
Screens in the back, on the outside of the tent would be cool. I guess fans would also be nice. Personally, I hate how the Which Stage is set up in the front. I hate that you can't cross the middle. The sound tent also gets in the way a lot.
Couches? Astro-turf! Remote controls & Air conditioning! Quit.
I think Bonnaroo should provide Lazy Boy recliners equipped with built in toilets and umbrellas, also there should be a equivalent amount at every tent to satisfy at least 80% of all tickets sold in case a lot of people care to hit up the same show at the same time.
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Post by blueslikehail on Aug 6, 2011 13:20:48 GMT -5
i too think that bigger tents is a given. perry's tent at lolla this year looks sweet, i think adding a dance tent like that is going to be necessary going forward, based on the crowds at bassnectar, girl talk, and other late night electronic acts. but where to put it? i know it wouldn't be popular to some, but i want to see them get rid of the comedy and cinema tents. no one i've ever talked to goes to roo for that, they'll say things like "I just wanted some a/c," or "it was nice to do something different." have the comedians, if they must be there, perform on the which and what between acts. screens on the inside and/or outside of the tents would be excellent. there's just too many spots at the this and that tents where the sightlines are no good. keep the sand too.
The best investment they could make would be to have screens placed right where the neon tent signs are. They would need to be big enough though to be useful.
sorry that you old school rooers dont like change.. doesnt mean you have to be all cynical and crap all over an idea.
if bonnaroo wants to move forward as a world class fest then there are things that need to be improved upon. they own the land its not going anywhere so why not make some changes for the better of the fest?
sorry that you old school rooers dont like change.. doesnt mean you have to be all cynical and crap all over an idea.
if bonnaroo wants to move forward as a world class fest then there are things that need to be improved upon. they own the land its not going anywhere so why not make some changes for the better of the fest?
They are also buying the land this year I kind of doubt they are going to drop another 3-4 million on new screens.
Also, if by moving forward as a world class fest means what so many here apparently think it means
A. Special considerations for certain genres like electronica
B. Less Jam/Rock/Jazz/World Music
C Full capacity crowds
Then I hope they just stay right where they are in terms of what they are doing.
I'm not a big fan of the sand. The tents could be bigger and screens would help as well. Maybe lift the stages a bit so people in the back can see better.
I still think they need more grass throughout Centeroo and tents would be a nice place to start. The grass at What holds up pretty good so I don't see why it wouldn't hold up pretty good at the tents
This last year with all the dust haze it was impossible to see a tent artist from outside the tent. Larger tents and screens near the back should help fix this. Matt & Kim was packed and I couldn't see a thing through the dust.
Plus the tent stages are way too short. My GF is 5-3" and rarely is able to see bands in the tents unless we're way in the back.
As far as more grass in Centeroo, were you there Thursday this year? The whole place was grass, but it didn't last. Astroturf in the tents would be cool. I hate a shoe-full of that sand. But I don't see this EVER happening.
I was joking about adding astroturf. Lose yr shoes, maybe... Good luck with the Roo remodel/make-overs. Once AC figures out how to keep the crappers clean, they'll get right on these keen ideas.
I know it will never happen but if they lined the top of the tents with misters that would be awesome. Not completely but a few rows of misters that sprayed periodically would be nice. I don't think it would be that difficult either
This last year with all the dust haze it was impossible to see a tent artist from outside the tent. Larger tents and screens near the back should help fix this. Matt & Kim was packed and I couldn't see a thing through the dust.
Plus the tent stages are way too short. My GF is 5-3" and rarely is able to see bands in the tents unless we're way in the back.
As far as more grass in Centeroo, were you there Thursday this year? The whole place was grass, but it didn't last. Astroturf in the tents would be cool. I hate a shoe-full of that sand. But I don't see this EVER happening.
Yes to all three. I really wish they would add screens to the stages just for crowd control, but it took them 10 years to put one on the Which Stage, so I am not holding my breath on this.
sorry that you old school rooers dont like change.. doesnt mean you have to be all cynical and crap all over an idea.
if bonnaroo wants to move forward as a world class fest then there are things that need to be improved upon. they own the land its not going anywhere so why not make some changes for the better of the fest?
A. It's already a world class festival B. There is a difference between cynical and being realistic. It took them 10 years to put one screen on Which stage, so I doubt they're gonna put screens outside 3 tents for a few hundred people to enjoy late night. And I've never had problem with the sound at any of the tents (Superjam this year was more staff related than equipment). If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Which Stage is another matter entirely
personally, I like shows in the tents better overall than shows on the bigger stages. I like the sand, no big deal there in my opinion. A screen somewhere for those not under the tent would be nice but there are so many other improvements I would rather see (i.e fixing the sound problems on Which, the ridiculously long lines for the comedy tent, more shade in centeroo, misting fans for the bigger stages etc, etc,) that the tent situation is at or near the bottom of my list.
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Screens would be nice and I am very happy that they added a screen to Which this year, i have a feeling that it was probably the same screen that they used at the lunar stage the year before that showed the world cup. Also, as far as the sand goes, that was a last minute fix to try and keep the dust kicking up from the dirt. They tried to plant new grass all over the grounds but the company that did it planted the wrong seed and it did not grow (it was a grass that can't grow in the TN summer). That is why there was sand this year and even in places like the Brooers Festival there was sod grass that did not even take to the ground, it was put down at the last min so there would be some grass. I would definitely guess that there will be no sand and more grass next year.
sorry that you old school rooers dont like change.. doesnt mean you have to be all cynical and crap all over an idea.
if bonnaroo wants to move forward as a world class fest then there are things that need to be improved upon. they own the land its not going anywhere so why not make some changes for the better of the fest?
They are also buying the land this year I kind of doubt they are going to drop another 3-4 million on new screens.
Also, if by moving forward as a world class fest means what so many here apparently think it means
A. Special considerations for certain genres like electronica
B. Less Jam/Rock/Jazz/World Music
C Full capacity crowds
Then I hope they just stay right where they are in terms of what they are doing.
It doesn't necessarily mean they need to get the screens this year if they are indeed buying the land, but you can't say that it wouldn't be a good addition so I don't really understand why you would argue against it?
And also, you are fantastic at putting words in peoples mouths. He didnt say anything on that nice little list you made, he just said that the festival is quickly becoming one of the biggest on the planet (though most certainly not THE biggest) and they need to act accordingly. He never said anything about electronic music or less jam music but you're so bitter about that fact that SOME people want those things that you feel the need to bring it up in a thread where it is 100% not relevant.
They are also buying the land this year I kind of doubt they are going to drop another 3-4 million on new screens.
Also, if by moving forward as a world class fest means what so many here apparently think it means
A. Special considerations for certain genres like electronica
B. Less Jam/Rock/Jazz/World Music
C Full capacity crowds
Then I hope they just stay right where they are in terms of what they are doing.
It doesn't necessarily mean they need to get the screens this year if they are indeed buying the land, but you can't say that it wouldn't be a good addition so I don't really understand why you would argue against it?
And also, you are fantastic at putting words in peoples mouths. He didnt say anything on that nice little list you made, he just said that the festival is quickly becoming one of the biggest on the planet (though most certainly not THE biggest) and they need to act accordingly. He never said anything about electronic music or less jam music but you're so bitter about that fact that SOME people want those things that you feel the need to bring it up in a thread where it is 100% not relevant.
Hmm where did I say that he said that? I did point out it was requested all the time by people on here, talk about putting words in someone's mouth. It does get old with people complaining about what Bonnaroo could be, and that they have stopped enjoying what it is. Don't act like what I said just came out of nowhere, because lets be fair it comes up all the time in music threads.
I am not bitter the day it is finally not for me I will just start going to AllGood, and the Phish festivals I always skip for Bonnaroo. I am just personally a lot happier with a diverse line up, than I will ever be with one that passes the "pitchfork" test, or one that uses gimmicky reunions or nostalgia acts. If becoming a "world class" festival means that we lose the things I like about Bonnaroo I am against it, and that was the point I was trying to make.
Also, as far as the sand goes, that was a last minute fix to try and keep the dust kicking up from the dirt. They tried to plant new grass all over the grounds but the company that did it planted the wrong seed and it did not grow (it was a grass that can't grow in the TN summer). That is why there was sand this year and even in places like the Brooers Festival there was sod grass that did not even take to the ground, it was put down at the last min so there would be some grass. I would definitely guess that there will be no sand and more grass next year.
if you're talking about inside the tents, hasn't the sand been there for a couple years? imho, it is the best thing that they've tried in there. prime example of why they need sand in there and not artificial turf: about 2 songs into deerhunter on thursday a guy next to me puked a couple times. his friends pulled him out and everyone around started kicking sand onto it to soak/cover it up. eventually people came and stood in that spot. could you imagine how nasty some artificial turf would get by the end of the weekend? and a big thumbs up to higher stages in the tents. maybe that would solve some of the sightline issues in the this and that tents.
Also, as far as the sand goes, that was a last minute fix to try and keep the dust kicking up from the dirt. They tried to plant new grass all over the grounds but the company that did it planted the wrong seed and it did not grow (it was a grass that can't grow in the TN summer). That is why there was sand this year and even in places like the Brooers Festival there was sod grass that did not even take to the ground, it was put down at the last min so there would be some grass. I would definitely guess that there will be no sand and more grass next year.
if you're talking about inside the tents, hasn't the sand been there for a couple years? imho, it is the best thing that they've tried in there. prime example of why they need sand in there and not artificial turf: about 2 songs into deerhunter on thursday a guy next to me puked a couple times. his friends pulled him out and everyone around started kicking sand onto it to soak/cover it up. eventually people came and stood in that spot. could you imagine how nasty some artificial turf would get by the end of the weekend? and a big thumbs up to higher stages in the tents. maybe that would solve some of the sightline issues in the this and that tents.
lol at the thought of puke on turf for a full weekend. I like the sand, anyway. The only realistic improvement I vote for is fans!
