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Post by Whoreshack on Aug 18, 2011 14:56:22 GMT -5
Another festival disaster at Pukkelpop today as, yet again, the stage comes crashing down, killing 4. Same story at Cheap Trick in Ottawa, Flaming Lips in OK, & the Indiana State Fair. What the hell's going on??
Good question. I do not have the answer though. Maybe the stage crews were not fully prepared and rushed the construction. But for this to happen 4 times at different venues and so close together in time is dumbfounding. It is tragic that people die going to an event where they feel safe and have no reason not to feel safe. I do not know what can be done to prevent events like this. You would think that festivals and concerts would have to pass inspections before patrons are allowed to enter. They might have to pass inspections idk, but if they don't, maybe they should have to. People shouldn't have to worry about being injured or killed going to a concert. Something needs to be done I know that much.
That's just straight up stupid even if they deleted it and apologized the fact they were thinking about their gear before the people really pisses me off
I don't think Smith Westerns knew the extent of what happened when they posted that. I think they deleted it after they were aware that people were killed and injured. I'm sure once the stage started to collapse they got off stage as quickly as possible. And if the storm was that strong they probably left as soon as they could. I'm gonna give them the benefit of a doubt bc you would have to be pretty heartless to post that if you had all the info on incident
I would agree they probably hadn't been told there were injuries yet when they tweeted that but it still seems like they were concerned about their stuff before they considered the audience. If they pay attention at all they would have heard of at least one or two of the other incidents and known that injury and death was possible. I wouldn't go so far as heartless probably just insensitive and stupid.
I read more recently that only 1 person had died. Still absolutely terrifying. I remember there was a pretty harsh storm saturday night at camp bisco 2010 and every one was complaining that the fest staff made everyone take shelter and held off music for a few hours, but it really is a lot smarter than chancing it and letting something like this happen.
That's just straight up stupid even if they deleted it and apologized the fact they were thinking about their gear before the people really pisses me off
Post by Whoreshack on Aug 18, 2011 16:22:32 GMT -5
Smith Westerns are just outta their teens. Not excusing them, but it may explain a bit of their initial narcissism. Indianapolis is still grieving their losses with this latest news. Crazy.
Post by mizvalentine on Aug 18, 2011 18:00:27 GMT -5
God this is terrifying. I was actually kinda worried about lightening and wind during Buffalo Springfield at Roo, things were really whipping for a bit and it occurred to me that there was just nowhere to go if things really picked up. On a much smaller scale, I played on a big outdoor stage last new years eve that was covered in 2" of water (it was snowing and the blast heaters they set up made it basically rain on stage)...I was positive we'd be electrocuted. I know a lot of guys who roadcrew for a living and 99.9% are safety minded and conscientious, but if promoters try to radically cut costs, or if someone's not thinking things through, bad things happen. Its horrifying as a performer and a fan.
I will be a betting man and say that if there are high winds forecasted at a festival that they may delay performance until the weather clears. There will be a lot of attention looking at festivals big and small if they take a chance.
I have a few friends who where in the big tent that collapsed but they are ok. A few lost their phones and wallets in the storm but I guess they are still lucky.
I feel so bad for everyone who was hurt in these stage collapses. I wonder if the stages are being built too hastily or if the weather is just that bad. Hopefully the Pukkelpop incident is the last.
Post by Whoreshack on Aug 20, 2011 17:21:34 GMT -5
Yeah, wonder if these several disasters are actually related to climate change/ global warming or whether this is just a streak of bad luck. This summer's had some crazyass storms.
I'm also interested in seeing what, if any, changes are made to festival safety because of these few, highly-reported events. I was talking with an old friend who was at the Cinci '79 Who concert and he said that after those 11 trampling deaths, general admission seating was outright banned for years.
Yeah, wonder if these several disasters are actually related to climate change/ global warming or whether this is just a streak of bad luck. This summer's had some crazyass storms.
I'm also interested in seeing what, if any, changes are made to festival safety because of these few, highly-reported events. I was talking with an old friend who was at the Cinci '79 Who concert and he said that after those 11 trampling deaths, general admission seating was outright banned for years.
It was banned in the whole city for years I believe. It was open for Phish back in 09, but every freakin door at that place was open, I literally almost got back in line when I was out smoking a cigarette. There is no way it would have been hard to leave or enter that venue.
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