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Is anyone else feeling torn over the Zeppelin rumors?
It would be sweet to see them. Obviously. But I'm a little worried about what that will mean for my Roo experience. Tickets would sell out. I'm not worried about myself getting one (I am an excellent Roo-stalker), but I want all of my buddies to be able to get theirs. And then there's the whole "Zeppelin fans will change the atmosphere" theory. I don't really know if that's true, but who knows.
ya... last year people said the TOOL fans would ruin bonnaroo.... it far and away did not and i heard from many people that weren't fans of tool say it was one of the best shows they saw all weekend.
I'm not really worried. I think that most people would take LZ headlining 'roo as an indicator of future plans to tour. That said I dont think the people that wouldnt want to camp to see them will show up.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jan 3, 2008 13:29:21 GMT -5
Here's the thing about the "Zeppelin Crowd Theory." As it is... I'd say atleast 90% of the roo-goers from year to year are Zeppelin fans. When Tool was announced, I don't know how many people that originally go to Roo anyways were fans, but Tool made a lot of Rooers fans.
I really don't see how 80,000 "crazed Zeppelin fans" going to Roo would be that big of a deal... In my opinion, there's already atleast 70,000 there anyways
Is anyone else feeling torn over the Zeppelin rumors?
It would be sweet to see them. Obviously. But I'm a little worried about what that will mean for my Roo experience. Tickets would sell out. I'm not worried about myself getting one (I am an excellent Roo-stalker), but I want all of my buddies to be able to get theirs. And then there's the whole "Zeppelin fans will change the atmosphere" theory. I don't really know if that's true, but who knows.
I guess it's all up to the Roo gods now...
Any opinions?
In your mind, what is the typical Zeppelin fan?....and what kind of atmosphere would they bring?
I don't see that LZ being there would be a bad thing but - here is a little random thought about it:
Last year The Police played (right?) The (for lack of a better way to phrase it) "typical" Police fan - is someone my age (35-45) who listened in the '80s and beyond - the majority of us in that age group are now making decent livings and therefore can afford the VIP tickets (not me - tho) hence - they expanded the VIP section and took over a HUGE chunk of Tent Only.
Now - LZ is HUGE - way much bigger then The Police (IMHO) their audience is way much larger - with a good majority of the audience being "baby boomers" who (like the age group for The Police) make decent money - but now you are getting into a slightly older demographic - and this group wants comforts if they are going to deal with the "heat and hippies" - so they will want RV's PLUS they can afford the VIP tickets -
seems that they will prolly expand the VIP section even more to accomodate all of this - which leaves Tent Only and GA pushed even further back
Now that is just one small bump in the road that I foresee
My only concern is ticket sales if they get announced before tickets go on sale. They would sell out insanely fast, and whatever people put on ebay or try to sell otherwise would be REALLY expensive.
NO. I'm don't really buy into the Zep fans will ruin Roo thing! I was saying that I've heard a lot of chat about it. I'm more worried about tickets selling out.
I'd rather be able to GO to a Bonnaroo without them than get locked out of a Bonnaroo with them....they got something like 2 million ticket requests in 3 days for the London show.
I hope the tickets are on sale before they announce Zeppelin if they're gonna do it at all.
I'd rather be able to GO to a Bonnaroo without them than get locked out of a Bonnaroo with them....they got something like 2 million ticket requests in 3 days for the London show.
I hope the tickets are on sale before they announce Zeppelin if they're gonna do it at all.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jan 3, 2008 15:02:47 GMT -5
If Zeppelin is announced before tickets go on sale, we should all portray such a negative image of Roo so that nobody will go just for Zeppelin.
"It's like 120 degrees every day and their fountain that they have to cool people off... man all it does is shoot mud on you! And don't even get me started on that 45 minute walk just to get into Centeroo..."
Lots of people are not willing to camp -- not even for Led Zeppelin.
which goes back to my theory of way way more RV's - to accomadate the people not willing to camp
Hmmm, I suppose that could happen. But I know lots of major LZ fans who count RVing as camping and wouldn't do it, especially with no electric/water hookups. I realize that's not the majority of people on this board, but the older contingent isn't too fond of roughing it.
Here's the thing about the "Zeppelin Crowd Theory." As it is... I'd say atleast 90% of the roo-goers from year to year are Zeppelin fans. When Tool was announced, I don't know how many people that originally go to Roo anyways were fans, but Tool made a lot of Rooers fans.
I really don't see how 80,000 "crazed Zeppelin fans" going to Roo would be that big of a deal... In my opinion, there's already atleast 70,000 there anyways
i was going to say just that a few minutes ago, but i'm glad you said it first, you said it much more eloquently...
Post by oatmealschnappz on Jan 3, 2008 15:09:21 GMT -5
I'm not really worried about the crowd or vibe or whatever. I'm more worried about how disappointing a LZ reunion show might be. Sure, I would have loved to have seen them live in their prime but, the idea of seeing a bunch of out of practice, out of their element rock n roll gods fall short and tarnish their reputation is more than a little disturbing to me. I guess I'm just sick of all of this "______ is getting back together" stuff. Maybe I'm being selfish but, I'd rather keep my memories than walk away feeling like so many of you did after The Police's set last year. I know that you can't really compare Zep to The Police but, (I hope) you get where I'm coming from. I mean, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING I would rather do than to go back and be able to see a Talking Heads show but, I missed it. I was just born too late, pure and simple. While the idea of seeing them as they were is as appealing as anything I can imagine, I have come to the realization that It simply wouldn't be the same. They've changed, the chemistry has changed, the environment has changed, the crowd has changed. It's just too late to see some bands. Sure, you can go and see the same guys playing the same songs but, in the vast majority of cases, it will not be what you are looking for. I'd rather respect their memory than watch them impersonate themselves and cheapen their music.
But, that's just me.
Last Edit: Jan 3, 2008 15:12:31 GMT -5 by oatmealschnappz - Back to Top
If Zeppelin is announced before tickets go on sale, we should all portray such a negative image of Roo so that nobody will go just for Zeppelin.
"It's like 120 degrees every day and their fountain that they have to cool people off... man all it does is shoot mud on you! And don't even get me started on that 45 minute walk just to get into Centeroo..."
OMG the ticks at Bonnaroo.. and the thieves, the cops,awful place bonnaroo... oh the heat, the smelly bathrooms and RUDE people ..LOL I'm with ya strum
If Zeppelin is announced before tickets go on sale, we should all portray such a negative image of Roo so that nobody will go just for Zeppelin.
"It's like 120 degrees every day and their fountain that they have to cool people off... man all it does is shoot mud on you! And don't even get me started on that 45 minute walk just to get into Centeroo..."
OMG the ticks at Bonnaroo.. and the thieves, the cops,awful place bonnaroo... oh the heat, the smelly bathrooms and RUDE people ..LOL I'm with ya strum
And don't forget the wait to get into Centeroo, I mean I had to wait 3-4 hours to get in, I mean RIDICULOUS.
I'm not really worried about the crowd or vibe or whatever. I'm more worried about how disappointing a LZ reunion show might be. Sure, I would have loved to have seen them live in their prime but, the idea of seeing a bunch of out of practice, out of their element rock n roll gods fall short and tarnish their reputation is more than a little disturbing to me. I guess I'm just sick of all of this "______ is getting back together" stuff. Maybe I'm being selfish but, I'd rather keep my memories than walk away feeling like so many of you did after The Police's set last year. I know that you can't really compare Zep to The Police but, (I hope) you get where I'm coming from. I mean, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING I would rather do than to go back and be able to see a Talking Heads show but, I missed it. I was just born too late, pure and simple. While the idea of seeing them as they were is as appealing as anything I can imagine, I have come to the realization that It simply wouldn't be the same. They've changed, the chemistry has changed, the environment has changed, the crowd has changed. It's just too late to see some bands. Sure, you can go and see the same guys playing the same songs but, in the vast majority of cases, it will not be what you are looking for. I'd rather respect their memory than watch them impersonate themselves and cheapen their music.
But, that's just me.
I like your reasoning and it makes ALOT of sense to me
I'm not really worried about the crowd or vibe or whatever. I'm more worried about how disappointing a LZ reunion show might be. Sure, I would have loved to have seen them live in their prime but, the idea of seeing a bunch of out of practice, out of their element rock n roll gods fall short and tarnish their reputation is more than a little disturbing to me. I guess I'm just sick of all of this "______ is getting back together" stuff. Maybe I'm being selfish but, I'd rather keep my memories than walk away feeling like so many of you did after The Police's set last year. I know that you can't really compare Zep to The Police but, (I hope) you get where I'm coming from. I mean, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING I would rather do than to go back and be able to see a Talking Heads show but, I missed it. I was just born too late, pure and simple. While the idea of seeing them as they were is as appealing as anything I can imagine, I have come to the realization that It simply wouldn't be the same. They've changed, the chemistry has changed, the environment has changed, the crowd has changed. It's just too late to see some bands. Sure, you can go and see the same guys playing the same songs but, in the vast majority of cases, it will not be what you are looking for. I'd rather respect their memory than watch them impersonate themselves and cheapen their music.
But, that's just me.
i think i'll have to agree with you there, i was excited to see The Police last year and they let me down a little bit. But when Zep played the 02 Arena, everyone talked about how great it was... but i watched all the youtubes... everything sounded at least slightly off if not terrible to me... and i'm not talking about the quality of the youtube videos.
I think you may be right about the bands that stretch that far back. That being said, i'd still love to see Phish reunite... Just over the hill at 40+ and all of them can still play some tunes.
OMG the ticks at Bonnaroo.. and the thieves, the cops,awful place bonnaroo... oh the heat, the smelly bathrooms and RUDE people ..LOL I'm with ya strum
And don't forget the wait to get into Centeroo, I mean I had to wait 3-4 hours to get in, I mean RIDICULOUS.
I am with you strum as well.
ya and what about the random pits of snakes and the monkeys throwing poo at you as you stood in line... i don't get how THAT is supposed to be fun. I really didn't like the flies the size of walnuts either... although the carmel coated ones on shakedown were ok... ;D