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The same reason you do anything when you're a townie in this game... try and figure out who the fuck the Mafia is.
If I have to use a townie as blood sacrifice in order to get all three Mafia down, unfortunately it might have to happen. The townie will be remembered greatly as a martyr. They will die so the rest of us can live. However, I also see Barabbas coming down and me getting thrown up there in his place. Don't let evil persevere.
If you are a fellow townie, I can be your savior. I just need for you to believe in me, that I am the one and only redeemer. Those who accept me will receive eternal glory as victors of Mafia 40. Those who deny me shall receive untimely death and punishment from the eternally despised Mafia.
The same reason you do anything when you're a townie in this game... try and figure out who the quack the Mafia is.
If I have to use a townie as blood sacrifice in order to get all three Mafia down, unfortunately it might have to happen. The townie will be remembered greatly as a martyr. They will die so the rest of us can live. However, I also see Barabbas coming down and me getting thrown up there in his place. Don't let evil persevere.
If you are a fellow townie, I can be your savior. I just need for you to believe in me, that I am the one and only redeemer. Those who accept me will receive eternal glory as victors of Mafia 40. Those who deny me shall receive untimely death and punishment from the eternally despised Mafia.
Cool, thanks for the explanation. I didn't know if you re-read something or someone posted something that would make you lean to EAP over Scrog.
noage and duddits, it is apparent that mikeD is out of the runoff (essentially). i would ask you to look at what i've said and think about the way scog plays and the last two games.
i openly admitted i made a mistake in voting for belgian, but you were right noage, the mafia (NBF, i'm looking at you sister ) used scrog's hardheadedness to help confuse me. yet scrog continues to deny taking any blame in the townspeople's loss. if you remember, i posted two groups of who i thought was mafia and i nailed it with second group, but scrog was so aggressive i started questioning myself. that was my fault.
Correct, you had it down to the two groups, you even voted for NBF, but according to what you said last game, it was HEG coming out as inspector that confused you. Then you switched from NBF to HEG and we then lost the game. So if you now say, if my hardheadedness is what influenced your vote, then yes I am part of the reason we lost that game.
the game before, he got tried to get me killed as inspector because HE WAS SO SURE I WAS MAFIA. (ps scrog we totally would have won that game if you hadn't been such a nutter b/c i had two names correct when you went on one of your oh so familiar tirades) and once again he was very wrong.
I thought we did win this game? beside you, I had Miked as Mafia, Holls, and until Popsicle Sarah had her tirade, she was on that list, with FM pulling up the rear. So I think I was kind of on there as well. Wrong about LD last game and you the one before.Agree with my way of playing or not, I think I have been damn close with who is Mafia and who is not.
based on those things and my explanations, i ask that you keep me around and let me help the townies win. i have no idea who is who yet, i simply i voted for scrog because i don't like playing with him and that's that.
SFA, you are correct, when I said "I see two Mafia." that was just me, not being too seriously and saying I am going to vote for these two, because one wanted me in the run-off and the other voted for me, then is all went crazy. I am not 100% sure if EAP is Mafia, so I am not going to 'eat my words' and end my Mafia playing days on her being Mafia, because I can be wrong, but from what I can see, right now she stands out as Mafia.
LD you are acting weird and I am not the only one seeing it.
KK, I would say go ahead and end this. I just ask, before you do you look at why did I 'bark up' EAP's tree? It was because she suggested I be in the run-off. Is that left over from last game? IDK. Maybe, but she knows I am aggressive and that is how I am, in Mafia, so why did she over react and blow up on me, what I did do, besides call her Mafia, that lead to this. this is what I am talking about when I say over reacted,
3. so the person who actually voted for you (bonzai) is NOT mafia, but i who said "i wanted to vote you" but actually did NOT, is mafia? OH SHI T GUYS SCROG'S WON THE GAME IN THE FIRST ROUND. how'd you figured it out so quickly???? that must be some sort of record!!!!!! darn it. i wanted to play a few more days 4. give me one good reason why i shouldn't just change my vote right now and be done with you, townsperson OR NOT.
Look back and see who has misspoken and who has misquoted who. For someone who has played Mafia multiple times, I would think they would have their facts straight before speaking on something. Like, above she mentioned how my aggressiveness, led townies down the wrong road, and if I had not been so aggressive towards her as the inspector we would have won that game, well we did win that game. The game we lost, was the game where EAP voted for the inspector and according to her that was my fault, even though I questioned her vote from me to HEG that game, even though in one group she had Mafia labeled, with all three still alive, and the other group, not Mafia, with only two alive, she still made the wrong decision, but that is my fault. I voted for her, because I see her as Mafia this game and that is because she wanted to put me in the run-off. She wants to vote me off, because she does not like the way I play the game. Take that for what you will.
I tend to always change an early vote, if I feel people are stacking on it. Lowerdeck stacking on EAP, plus the fact that I'm clueless, really didn't sit well with me.
This first round has probable been the least productive I've ever participated in. I get what you are saying about EAP being wrong about some of her facts. She is at fault in this argument as well. She was a bit passive aggressive in her early responses to you.
I don't know if one of you had a motif to push the other into the runoff. I think it's more likely then Mike being Mafia. Mafia could have used the fight between you two to switch votes around and get him out before the runoff started.
Either way, I'm worried this fighting will continue into the next round and the townspeople will suffer for it yet again. Since I don't have anything else to go on, this is the best vote I can make.
^That is fair, I do not agree with your vote change, but I can respect it. Maybe we do have two stubborn, hard-head townies who like to always get their last word in and for the sake of the game, one of us should go.
Scrog: I said it a whole bunch of times... I was gonna play completely weird. You think you know how people are going to play, that people fit a certain pattern. I'm trying to defy all convention. Look after Mafia 39 ended in the topic there - told you I was gonna pull a lot of craziness here.
I'm a townie. I'd love to prove it to you, but you'll just have to trust my crazy ass that I'm not. Those who put faith in me shall become victorious over the Mafia. Those who deny me shall suffer death and defeat.
Jhamm, does this vote count? Feel like players shouldn't be able to kill themselves off.
Never heard of suicide? But yes, I agree. I hope her vote doesn't count.
The reason for not allowing suicide is when you know that someone is mafia (for example if the inspector calls someone out, gets killed, then the player even admits to being mafia) then they can just vote for themselves. If they can't vote for themselves, then they have to make a vote for another player which can be very telling.
I am not going to tell EAP that she can't vote for herself, especially since it's a runoff, and the begining of the game. What is worse, a player killing themselves because they aren't having a good experience with the game, or a player refusing to vote in the later rounds, causing the game to delay or even break apart?
Furthermore, I feel that once exposed as mafia, voting for one's self is a valid tactic, though, honestly, this really shouldn't apply, as there are always more townies than mafia (atleast while the game is going on).
Day 1 Runoff 1
Current Votes: krunchy > Mike D Scrog > EAP Bonzai > EAP Mr. Belgian Manders > Scrog Noage > Mike D Mike D > EAP NBF > Scrog LD > Scrog > EAP Duddits > MikeD > Scrog > Mike D SFA > EAP > Null > Scrog EAP > EAP
Current Vote Tally: Scrog - 3 MikeD - 3 EAP - 5
Left to Vote:
IF THE VOTES DON'T CHANGE, THIS ROUND ENDS AROUND 5PM
I don't really feel like anyone in the runoff is mafia. But as it stands right now changing my vote won't matter. I'll try to check back before 5 to see if anything has changed.
I was kind of hoping that someone other than EAP would vote for Scrog (Though I suppose EAP voting for herself would do the same thing) and we could go into one final runoff where there is no third party. Just my thoughts.
let's see if anyone else checks in soon and what they think....otherwise, i am fine going. i just am not having fun with all this pointless arguing (and i don't think anyone else is either).