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Post by cursedlono on Nov 20, 2011 13:27:30 GMT -5
We all know the fountain recirculates water at some point turning into straight mud getting slung in the air. We also know that heat kills. I think that Bonnaroo should devote more energy into making sure that there is clean water shooting out of that thing 24/7 during the festie. Some people will not jump in it because of that fact. This could be a very important way to help cool people down. And I know there are filters out there that can take care of the problem. All they would have to do is install them in the water lines that recirculate the water back out the top of the fountain. Maybe bump up the water pressure a bit to force it through the filter. They have filters that can remove salt from water we have all seen commercials for like those zero water products pour muddy water in a pitcher and then clean water comes out and they drink it. Why has this never been done or thought of?
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Personally, I don't have much of a problem with the dirty water. I honestly don't think it could be much worse than jumping in a lake or something along those lines. Plus, if the water was purified and filtered it would 1) Be a huge waste of clean drinking water, 2) Be expensive and 3) Make the fountain so overcrowded it would inevitably be counterproductive.
That fountain is absolutely nasty, I always swing by to look a the festival goers bathing in raw sewage. It would be nice if they had a filter, the only time I went in was my first year at Roo.
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That fountain is absolutely nasty, I always swing by to look a the festival goers bathing in raw sewage. It would be nice if they had a filter, the only time I went in was my first year at Roo.
Have you ever swam in the ocean? Pretty sure its more urine/fecal matter/garbage than it is water at this point.
Post by klimfactor on Dec 15, 2011 20:06:42 GMT -5
I've been under it a few times and never had any health issues. Granted, I'm not drinking it. I do agree there is a lot of pond water, lake water people probably swim in that's much dirtier. My question is: Does anyone know if it's chlorinated at all? That would help keep it bacteria free.
The dirt in the fountain is probably... just dirt. So much Bonnamud and dust gets tracked into it that it's going to get turbid. Could they filter it? Yes. Would it cost a fortune to replace the filters? Yes. Is there a significant health risk that could be mitigated by filtering? Probably not. Your major concern would be fecal organisms, mainly bacteria. There will be some in there, just like there are some in the YMCA pool. But unless someone actually dumps in the fountain there are not going to be many; I wouldn't drink it, but a quick dip should be OK*. If you really want to worry about microbial nastyness at 'roo, worry about the inside handle of the portajohn. * This presupposes that you are immunocompetent, if you are immunocompromised, stay the heck out.
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so what you are saying that despite the fat ladies in the one piece suits that i see washing their ass cracks in the morning in the fountain its ok to take a dip?
so what you are saying that despite the fat ladies in the one piece suits that i see washing their ass cracks in the morning in the fountain its ok to take a dip?
so what you are saying that despite the fat ladies in the one piece suits that i see washing their ass cracks in the morning in the fountain its ok to take a dip?
I hope that they chlorinate the water. My guess is that they probably do. I go in the fountain, and the main reason that it does not bother me is that if there were lots of illnesses stemming from the fountain, Roo would know about it, and may even be liable for that. Also, when I get myself wet I pay close attention to not get much water around my face or ears.
But thats just me. A quick spritz during the heat of the day feels good.
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Post by cursedlono on Apr 27, 2012 13:49:01 GMT -5
There has to be a way just has to that is cost efficent. What about addign twice the water and sitting up a simple solar still. It is hot enough especially with a space blanket type foil evaporaor tray to leave the dissolved particulates behind and have clean water flowing. It would be solar powered and cheap! And would be an engineering marvel.
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There has to be a way just has to that is cost efficent. What about addign twice the water and sitting up a simple solar still. It is hot enough especially with a space blanket type foil evaporaor tray to leave the dissolved particulates behind and have clean water flowing. It would be solar powered and cheap! And would be an engineering marvel.
The problem is and will continue to be the dirt. It is everywhere, and once you get wet, all you do it get covered in more dirt, and then since you were already in the fountain, you go back in. Add to that the atmospheric dirt that will run in there especially on dusty days. This will clog and destroy any pore system you have, causing the pumps to work harder, causing more heat, causing them to die a lot faster. Plus, where do you dump the sludge dirt?
It would not even matter if you changed the water because dirt is still coming in, and all you would do would be super chlorinating it, but this has its own health issues.
Maybe if they set up a large, underground rainwater cistern system, that they purify as it goes into it, and pump the waste water into a storm drain, while letting it refill throughout the year, that would work? Figure the fountain uses 50-100 gallons per minute. That is a 300K-600K pool to pull from. Rain water or storm water draining might do it, but that is a massive pool. Note, those figures are for 24 hours a day 4 days. But this system would be green and once installed, should not cost too much money. Up front costs would be high though.
Post by psychedelnick on Apr 27, 2012 23:54:11 GMT -5
Who the hell cares? Honestly. If you have been to a public pool in the middle of the summer, it's the same thing. It's not like you're gonna drink it. The fountain is refreshing as fuck, and frankly, I wouldn't give a damn if someone did shit in it. It was so icy cold last year.
Post by Howard Stern on Apr 28, 2012 1:33:29 GMT -5
I would almost guarantee that is is chlorinated at least. I'm sure it's against some kind of code to have a fountain spewing shit and piss all over festival goers.
I would almost guarantee that is is chlorinated at least. I'm sure it's against some kind of code to have a fountain spewing poop and piss all over festival goers.
unless its some kind of weirdo sex fetish festival. ..
I would almost guarantee that is is chlorinated at least. I'm sure it's against some kind of code to have a fountain spewing poop and piss all over festival goers.
unless its some kind of weirdo sex fetish festival. ..
I would almost guarantee that is is chlorinated at least. I'm sure it's against some kind of code to have a fountain spewing poop and piss all over festival goers.
The problem is you cannot put in too much chlorine, because it will cause a whole new set of health issues and property damage on top of that. I would imagine that their is some there, but unless the water is being replaced, or filtered heavily, there is always a risk.