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No Matt that does not. Yes, quotes drop, but that is not the misunderstanding. The misunderstanding. I a begin statement, which was: "SFA, you only have to go back to last game and the see the inspector was whacked the first night. Maybe not the norm, but it happens." It was about how, the Inspector gets whacked more often from Mafia making a "great" educated guess, than what you are saying, just go back and look at last game, which is a way for me to say, "Hey, I whacked the Inspector last game on the first round! Look I did it! I quacking nailed it! BOO-YA!!!" Your response was very defensive, saying 'I was misrepresenting you for the third time', 'do you need to Clarify'?
Actually, it does. I didn't understand your point at first and it wasn't directly related to my post to begin with. Also, who do you think you are talking to? I've played more games then anyone else here. I fucking know the statistics on the inspector getting whacked. Just because you pulled it off last game doesn't mean jack.
You started all this bullshit by claiming EAP and I were somehow mafia together. Which are the kind of claims you make way to often And the "Duddits" post you are so obsessed over, isn't implying in any way that the inspector can't be whacked on the first night. I don't understand where you are getting that and I'm frankly fucking sick of talking about it.
After that I replied and repeated my original point, "I think Inspector being whacked is more common than you lead, but what does that matter? You seem ultra sensitive. Strange." Then SFA, you bring up my flawed story about how Duddits could not be Mafia. You are veering off topic, you are changing the point, you are making me seem like I am quacking idiot not making any sense, 'look at how he explains Duddits not being Mafia, because he did not whack the "most likely" Inspector'.
That's all in your head, man. Not sure how many times I have to say this. If you want to vote for me then vote for me. I'm tired of talking about this shit. My only point was that mafia wouldn't push the inspector into the runoff with a final vote . Pretty fucking simple.
SFA, you were the one changing the conversation. We all know quotes drop, that is why in my explanation, the long one above, of how you are changing the subject while making me me look wrong. When I quoted you and I, have to go back and forth between yours and my top 50 post. When I quoted you, then I quoted me, I always left the last quote in the next quote. I did this so one could follow what I am seeing.
What? I was actually posting the quote drop thing because I thought it might be an olive branch. I still don't understand you. At all, to be honest.
Okay, then please do not put up confusing graphs and say, 'Me and Surf can not be Mafia together go look at the charts. HaHa"
I"ve put them up the last couple games I've played. I'll put them up in any time I like, thank you. They were up the last time the townies won. fyi. The random vote switches, this game, are what make them so hard to understand. They are more helpful then you screaming people are mafia from the beginning
Actually I think that proves my point. In the beginning you did not know EAP was the Inspector, red flags may have went off when she chose you and may have said that in a message to your fellow Mafia players. Then one of them takes that "hint" and runs with it, and does this:
You are reaching so far here it's not even funny. Dude, I'm not even online most of the day. Before this game started I hadn't even posted on inforoo in close to month. Check my posts if you don't believe me. When I've been mafia, I don't sit around jacking off over who could be the inspector. You are giving the mafia way to much credit.
Surf made it a 4 person run-off with this vote, I found it strange, he was very confident in his vote for EAP, like he had inside info, like info the inspector would have, hence why I thought he was Inspector. How long before you messaged Surf, "What are you doing!" I am sure you did not feel comfortable with two of the Mafia votes on EAP. Surf said he voted for EAP because "strong hunch" "it is hard to detail out my excat train of thought". well surf later said he voted for EAP because of her wording, referencing to "you boys" , I do not find that reason to be "hard to detail out", like you originally said it was Surf.
What in the hell are you talking about? You found it strange then? Then you cast a vote for EAP as soon as I take her out of the runoff? We were all flying blind at the time, regardless of our roles.
At this point you do not know if EAP is Inspector, nobody does, but Surf wording and post make me think he is Inspector. Like I said, you do not fell comfortable with a Mafia vote stack on someone going into a runoff, I know I would not, so you have to get off that vote, you have to change it and better to hide if it is done early on. If EAP gets whacked(again, at this point you are not protecting the Inspector, you do not know she is, you might have a hunch, but not definite) no, you need to get off that stack vote for EAP so you and Surf are not linked later, If EAP gets whacked you and Surf could be linked together, so you say your are switching to Jham, which is not a crazy thing to do, it looks innocent, but you do it because he is "quiet", and then I say that is strange.
Again. This is so illogical it's not even funny. We would have to be the masters of time and space to do this. Are we not allowed to change votes? And again, I bring up the enormous amout of vote switches you aren't obsessed with. If you are a townie. It might be helpful for you to, maybe, start putting some thought into them.
After, EAP is whacked, I realized I was wrong about EAP and SFA being Mafia, but you still felt I was on to you SFA, because when I make my comment about Mafia being whacked in the first round, you take a very defensive stance and start to slowly discredit me. You use a theory that I made about Duddits being Mafia, because... Yes I put that out there to see if anybody would take the bait and go along with my story, I thought Surf was going to or Abra or Bonnie, but SFA you jumped on it and used it as a subtle way to make me look like I did not know what I am talking about.
Because you don't know what you are talking about? You just said, "my comment about Mafia being whacked in the first round." Nobody knows what the fuck you are trying to say. And then you follow it up with bragging about baiting people. It's fucking insane man.
Why was Quacker whacked? It was not a guess on the Inspector. We all know Quacker was not the Inspector. Yes SFA, if you are Mafia and it is pretty much agreed upon and obvious, "one would have to be blind to not see it" that EAP was Inspector, you better embrace that! You are not going to fake inspector!
Fake inspector? I told Phi that if I was mafia I wouldn't mention it if I was Mafia and thinking of doing it. What kind of paranoid bullshit is this?
with that much making EAP look like the Inspector you would be an idiot to try and pull that off, no better to embrace the fact EAP was the Inspector.With the Quacker Whack, Mafia feel pretty confident they got the Inspector the first round.
Why? Why whack quacker in the second round. Your thoughts on that would be much more helpful then then endless argument between the two of us. Ohh, and now you have got Surt into it as well. Which the same circular logic.
Scrog, its more like - .You are twisting things around I get where you are coming from but you are off base. I realize that me trying to talk you out of voting for me is fairly futile. If you are Mafia, you are doing your job. I don't think you are at this point, but I am starting to be nudged in that direction.
I am doing this from memory - and really I am only skimming your "logic" because it is so thrown together and convoluted that any real sense is hard to make of it all, and its me who you are talking about. I can't imagine how confused you are making other people who don't want to go back and read all of the posts that I made that you didn't quote, or seem to just leave out (intentionally?).
My voting for EAP was based on his verbiage. I mentioned that well before you called me out, and I posted the exact quotes that I derived that from. Also, the fact that I at that point thought you were Mafia, combined with what Phi said about Mafia voting for each other gave me that thought.
I was wrong on both counts. So I made a mistake because of misinterpreting information.
Did you not read this Scrog?
Yes I did. did you? Maybe you should go back and look at the part I highlighted.
I answered your question. You are misrepresent what I am saying in my posts.
Misrepresenting? How? Where? When? Look back and find it! Please show me, Quote me.
I honestly don't feel like going back and rehashing every word that we both said.
we do not have to rehash every word, just show me where I am misquoting or misrepresenting you. I have repeated asked you to do this.
I never said you were mafia.
You should read the post you just quoted, I even highlighted it for you. look up^ is it is right there, you even quoted it in your response to me. and you say I am misquoting you and misrepresenting you!
Surfbum>>>>EAP Scrog: it's hard to detail out my exact train of thought here because it comes from gut feeling and all info as a whole. Hope I'm right. I have a very strong hunch. This should help clarify it.
If you did not say EAP was mafia, you had a very strong hunch she was.
Personally I think EAP is mafia because of the verbiage that was used in his first few posts was suspect. I think I know another mafia too for a totally different reason. I do find the voting this round very enlightening.
I am a rookie so maybe the clues are more glaring to me. I have not played with any of you before so certain words his stil Out to me. There is a very "us and all you boys" undertone to EAPs posts. Could all the mafia this game Be women?...
Surf, I never said EAP was Mafia.
Surf, Am I misquoting you?
I said in the beginning I THOUGHT you were inspector. Followed that statement up with a statement something to the effect that I was mistaken (in the same post).
On all 3 of those counts, you tried to make it seem like I was accusing you or EAP of being Mafia, or singling you out as inspector. Trying to make it seem like I am mafia and Im just not. Im sick if going round and round with you Scrog.
we are just getting started. I will not stop until either I get voted off or you do!
If you think Im mafia then keep your vote where it is. If you want to win this game (assuming you are a townie) then switch your vote. Im not changing my angle, and Im not changing my story. It is what it is. And Im not wearing a friggin tutu. Im a townie.
I am a townie and I would wear a tutu at Brunch. Why not?
If this is your way of putting pressure on me to see what comes out to get a better idea where I am coming from - this is all I am going to give you.
are you saying there is more? because Mafia usually have more to say.
Im tired of this conversation honestly.
It is all good Surf you have given us enough already.
Duddits, last game was Mafia and was louder. He is not screaming Mafia.
Abra-Surf wants to vote for you, so I am assume you are not Mafia.
Noage- I could be wrong about you, but you do not seem to be working with the other two, more too come.
Scrog- I am not Mafia! I could be digging way to deep.
Phi-I need to look over some charts, to see who you did not vote for.
SFA, After my theory about you and EAP being Mafia was proven wrong by EAP being whack, I did not see you as Mafia. Then after a benign comment, your defensive take and changing the topic, makes me ask, why? I do know what I am talking about. It maybe hard to read, but I felt your were trying to change the conversation and you were referring to a theory I had about Duddits, 'not being Mafia, because... ' Why were you bring up my flawed theory on Dubbits? I did not understand that. Then I was able to paint this scenario, you with Surf, it fits. IT could be wrong. SFA maybe it is like talking to my brother, maybe things got all fucked up and I am digging too deep. Too hard headed people who 'always, have to be right'. the charts look like a lot of work. I spend hours on here, only minutes Jacking off, but hours on here reading over this thread. Too much time I will admit. Thank you for doing the charts, I am going to look them over and see if you are tied to or not tied to something that I just found. It comes from EAP. I am surprised nobody has seen this yet. It would be a great way to link me to Mafia, but "she did not catch the Nurses, but should we look at this, is EAP telling us anything?
Jan 18, 2012, 6:39pm, EAP wrote: noage! i'm going to see the mountain goats tomorrow in austin.....do you know anything about nurses? should i be trying to catch them too?
I saw Nurses about two months ago at a really small venue in Charlotte and they killed it. They are kind of like psychedelic folk; almost remind me of really early Animal Collective.
btw noage, i didn't catch the nurses b/c i went out to dinner with a friend beforehand...the mountain goats were good, but they only played about an hour . i felt kind of gipped. it was the first stop on the tour, so hopefully they will start playing longer by the time they get to you. they played a lot of new songs.
I know the Nurse open for the Mountain Goats, but was this a way to have us look at Noage, you were her original voting partner. I am a nurse, I think EAP knows that. Am I digging too deep?
SFA, lets talk about why Quacker was whacked? Honestly I would have whacked you,(beacuase you are a good player), but my action with you is good for Mafia. Was Quacker on to something or someone?
First of all, that very top quote of mine, I misspoke. I meant inspector, which makes the whole statement make sense. Saying I thought you were mafia in that sentence doesnt make ANY sense. I simply typed the wrong word.
Now, when it came to EAP, I did at that time think EAP was mafia, but forgot I said that publicly.
However, that quote:
"Surfbum>>>>EAP Scrog: it's hard to detail out my exact train of thought here because it comes from gut feeling and all info as a whole. Hope I'm right. I have a very strong hunch. This should help clarify it."
I, at that point thought NoAge was Mafia, but since there were not enough votes to get him into a runoff, I voted for EAP. Why? Because when you and Phi were talking about 2 Mafia voting together it made sense. Couple that with my mistaken thinking you were inspector and called his name out with absolutely no evidence right away, I thought "ok NoAge is probably Mafia, so that means that EAP could be. let me see how this develops" then I was over sensitive when it came to his verbiage. It seemed to fit. I was like, pretty sure of it. EAP was very "us and you" in the way she spoke "you boys and your vote changing" or whatever
I have already very clearly stated that I made a mistake in the first round. Harping on my EAP mistake is just weak, man. Get over it. Im not the only one who made the same mistake and voted for EAP who turned out to be a townie.
Scrog, if you are a townie, you are barking up the wrong tree. I don't know what else to say. You are building a paper thin case against me, and taking the attention of the townies away from where it should be - finding mafia.
Your continuous blasting of me is allowing Mafia to sit back, and let all of this happen.
SFA, what good does going back and voting for Scrog do? It's pretty much a NULL vote. That was weird.
Because I fail at math. It could have potentially created a three person runoff....
Abra - 2 Phi - 2 Surfbum - 2 Duddits - 1
I had no way of knowing if anyone was going to switch votes today. It's not very helpful to have a 3 people in a third round runoff. Basically it only forces one player to vote. But you are right. It's not much better then a null vote because it just means I'll have to vote again.
EAP was very "us and you" in the way she spoke "you boys and your vote changing" or whatever
Just so you know. That's more of a referense to the tendency for players making multiple vote switches in the first round. Which is a new trend in the game. EAP has griped about it in several games recently. I know you had know way of knowing that but that was what she was joking about.
SFA, what good does going back and voting for Scrog do? It's pretty much a NULL vote. That was weird.
Because I fail at math. It could have potentially created a three person runoff....
Abra - 2 Phi - 2 Surfbum - 2 Duddits - 1
I had no way of knowing if anyone was going to switch votes today. It's not very helpful to have a 3 people in a third round runoff. Basically it only forces one player to vote. But you are right. It's not much better then a null vote because it just means I'll have to vote again.
EAP was very "us and you" in the way she spoke "you boys and your vote changing" or whatever
Just so you know. That's more of a referense to the tendency for players making multiple vote switches in the first round. Which is a new trend in the game. EAP has griped about it in several games recently. I know you had know way of knowing that but that was what she was joking about.
There was another comment, too - I quoted it in a post like 5 pages ago lol but at any rate, no I had no idea that was what the comment was about. It was a very 'us and you' comment, but in a different context. mah bee
As far as the 3 person runoff goes, it pretty much makes Phi vote for who gets taken out.
SFA, After my theory about you and EAP being Mafia was proven wrong by EAP being whack, I did not see you as Mafia. Then after a benign comment, your defensive take and changing the topic, makes me ask, why? I do know what I am talking about. It maybe hard to read, but I felt your were trying to change the conversation and you were referring to a theory I had about Duddits, 'not being Mafia, because... ' Why were you bring up my flawed theory on Dubbits? I did not understand that. Then I was able to paint this scenario, you with Surf, it fits. IT could be wrong.
Because I thought your response was refereing to the theory. Pretty simple. Like I said then. I wasn't trying to make a big deal about it.
It really DOESN"T. There is absolutely no way anyone could have known EAP could possibly be the inspector at that time. my vote change doesn't have any significance either way.
You actually had a fair argument thinking that EAP and I could have been working together. But not with this.
SFA maybe it is like talking to my brother, maybe things got all quacked up and I am digging too deep. Too hard headed people who 'always, have to be right'. the charts look like a lot of work. I spend hours on here, only minutes Jacking off, but hours on here reading over this thread. Too much time I will admit. Thank you for doing the charts, I am going to look them over and see if you are tied to or not tied to something that I just found.
This game can be addictive. No doubt about that. You're welcome. Sometimes they are helpful. Not quite so sure here. Like below. If you just look at the chart you might not remember that EAP did vote for Noage but changed immediately because she posted at the same time as Surf. So they weren't voting partners really.
Also, I was looking at the tally and realize I wrote "whacked" beside one of Jhamm's lines when it should say voted off.
It comes from EAP. I am surprised nobody has seen this yet. It would be a great way to link me to Mafia, but "she did not catch the Nurses, but should we look at this, is EAP telling us anything?
btw noage, i didn't catch the nurses b/c i went out to dinner with a friend beforehand...the mountain goats were good, but they only played about an hour . i felt kind of gipped. it was the first stop on the tour, so hopefully they will start playing longer by the time they get to you. they played a lot of new songs.
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I know the Nurse open for the Mountain Goats, but was this a way to have us look at Noage, you were her original voting partner. I am a nurse, I think EAP knows that. Am I digging too deep?[/quote] I don't see the significance but i know better then to speck for others in this game. Noage can address this if he wants to.
SFA, lets talk about why Quacker was whacked? Honestly I would have whacked you,(beacuase you are a good player), but my action with you is good for Mafia.
Well, I always do stupid stuff that gets me in hot water with the townies. I don't think I've ever been whacked earlier then the third night besides the game I was inspector. The mafia tend to keep me around and try to frame me. Either that or they don't find me to be a threat. Strangely, I've only been voted off in one game. I always manage to make it pretty far into the game.
But yes. The townies love a big blow up fight amount the townies. While we have been arguing. We voted off Bonnie in a very strange manner. I'm not sure I've ever seen someone voted off like that. That's one reason I switch my vote to Phi because he seems to be having a lot of influence in the game.
Was Quacker on to something or someone?
You know that I feel pretty certain that EAP was Inspector but who knows if the mafia felt that way. I would say Quacker was right in his final vote for Jhamm and/or Bonnie. They either whacked him for that or they whacked him to use all his vote switches to set people up down the line. I do find it weird that no one has had much to say about his whack.
I feel that the mafia probably split there votes early in both rounds because with 3 people in the runoffs there didn't seem much need to manipulate votes in the runoffs.
There was another comment, too - I quoted it in a post like 5 pages ago lol but at any rate, no I had no idea that was what the comment was about. It was a very 'us and you' comment, but in a different context. mah bee
As far as the 3 person runoff goes, it pretty much makes Phi vote for who gets taken out.
Im good with that. Lets do this thing.
Yeah, that's just her personality.
Well, it' not that people couldn't change there votes in the runoff but I'd rather not set up a situation where only one person is forced to vote. I think in the later rounds it dangerous to have 3 person runoffs because the mafia have a better chance of slipping by.
I'm not to optimistic about this potential runoff anyway.
Because I fail at math. It could have potentially created a three person runoff....
Abra - 2 Phi - 2 Surfbum - 2 Duddits - 1
I had no way of knowing if anyone was going to switch votes today. It's not very helpful to have a 3 people in a third round runoff. Basically it only forces one player to vote. But you are right. It's not much better then a null vote because it just means I'll have to vote again.
Just so you know. That's more of a referense to the tendency for players making multiple vote switches in the first round. Which is a new trend in the game. EAP has griped about it in several games recently. I know you had know way of knowing that but that was what she was joking about.
There was another comment, too - I quoted it in a post like 5 pages ago lol but at any rate, no I had no idea that was what the comment was about. It was a very 'us and you' comment, but in a different context. mah bee
As far as the 3 person runoff goes, it pretty much makes Phi vote for who gets taken out.
Im good with that. Lets do this thing.
Why are you so okay with Phi having the deciding vote?
I've stated my case recently. If no one has any questions for me I think it's pretty clear that I'm a townie. I haven't had anyone protecting me or tried to ride on anyone's coat tails. I also haven't been so assured of one persons vote as to be fine being in a run off. Honestly I'm nervous as heck. I've never been here and I'm afraid if mafia gets another one of us tonight it's over. I'm playing straight up, calling things like I see them. I think surf's posts speak for themselves. I am a townie and I urge you to keep me in the game. I'll be checking in hopefully before work but def after work tomorrow.
First of all, that very top quote of mine, I misspoke. I meant inspector, which makes the whole statement make sense. Saying I thought you were mafia in that sentence doesnt make ANY sense. I simply typed the wrong word.
That is why I asked, "did you just say you thought I was Mafia at one point?" Because you wrote it, then you corrected your post, but not the statement I was Mafia. I asked you about this and you qouted the statement again, thus posting it a third time. So okay, we will call it a typo, over looked three times.
Now, when it came to EAP, I did at that time think EAP was mafia, but forgot I said that publicly.
It gets hard to keep track of the stories, what did I believe then,or what was my stance at that time, I forget. As Mafia your story has to be more liquid, as a townie your story is more solid, because as a townie, you are a townie, as Mafia you are trying to be a townie.
However, that quote:
"Surfbum>>>>EAP Scrog: it's hard to detail out my exact train of thought here because it comes from gut feeling and all info as a whole. Hope I'm right. I have a very strong hunch. This should help clarify it."
I, at that point thought NoAge was Mafia, but since there were not enough votes to get him into a runoff, I voted for EAP. Why?
It made sense to you, that Noage was Mafia, because he was "Voting Partners" for a minute, with EAP. Who you thought was MAfia because of his her words of "You boys and your vote changing". Us vs them, kind of talk? Is this correct? Well, your vote did nothing for Noage, it did get Phi out of the Runoff, Duddits the "quiet one" made the runoff from 4 to 3 by switching from Phi to Scrog. So Surf and Phi were stacked on Noage, Phi switched off Noage to Jhamm, then did Surf switched from Noage to EAP, Which made it a four way run-off with Phi, Jham, Quacker, and EAP. Duddits quickly got his vote off Phi, his original "voting partner", with a basically 'null' vote for me.
Because when you and Phi were talking about 2 Mafia voting together it made sense. Couple that with my mistaken thinking you were inspector and called his name out with absolutely no
"I would suggest Noage, because he is the first one to counter your point." was my evidence for suggesting Noage, I have said that before, but you forget to see that when you are trying to paint different story.
evidence right away, I thought "ok NoAge is probably Mafia, so that means that EAP could be. let me see how this develops" then I was over sensitive when it came to his verbiage. It seemed to fit. I was like, pretty sure of it. EAP was very "us and you" in the way she spoke "you boys and your vote changing" or whatever
I have already very clearly stated that I made a mistake in the first round. Harping on my EAP mistake is just weak, man. Get over it. Im not the only one who made the same mistake and voted for EAP who turned out to be a townie.
Surf, I am not on too you because of your vote for EAP, hell, I voted for EAP. I am on to you, because you just look Mafia to me.Your votes and accusations against EAP and others you have voted for as too confident to me. The one calling you Mafia. If I was in your shoes, I would try to discredit me, like what I felt from SFA, and you did that. You said I was misquoting you. said I was misrepresenting. I asked to to show me where I did that. You never did, but you did use some weak evidence, which had a typo(calling Me Mafia!) that you posted over three times.
Scrog, if you are a townie, you are barking up the wrong tree. I don't know what else to say. You are building a paper thin case against me, and taking the attention of the townies away from where it should be - finding mafia.
Your continuous blasting of me is allowing Mafia to sit back, and let all of this happen.
Is that what you want to do?
What I want to do is catch Mafia. You want Abra in the Runoff. I do not think Abra is Mafia. Townies, if I am making any sense on Surf as Mafia, then we should not risk a townie in the runoff with him, should we?
My "evidence" (misguided as it was) for EAP being Mafia:
1) I thought you were inspector (and you named NoAge) 2) EAP tried to partner with NoAge 3) the verbiage she used
so I made a mistake. Big whoop.
I have one question for you Scrog:
If you were mafia with me in my rookie game, would you let me run wild as I seem to be doing, or would you advise me to shut my trap? I think everyone here knows that answer. And I would take advice if that were the case. Not knowing my arse from a hole in the ground when it comes to this game = maddening. With zero guidance, it should be expected that I make an error or 2 in wording posts.
If you, bonzai and Abra are mafia, it would make sense for you to tear SFA and myself apart. And protect Abra in this runoff (which you are adamantly doing). Why are you proteecting here? It makees no logical sense.
When her feet were to the fire, she was backtracking and being very confusing. So she got quiet. Great defense. Hide in plain sight.
Townies, voting me off or forgoing the runoff is a huge mistake. You want to talk about connections and alliances?
SFA: if you are a townie, and Scrog is coming after you - think about that. He has now tried to cast doubt on you, me, NoAge and by association EAP. At this point, it looks like all of us aree townies. It would be quite surprising if he picked that many townies and zereo mafia to attempt to shred.
SFA, if you are a townie, look closely at that, and Scrog's voting. This could be where we can catch him (and by association abra) and win.
Here it is. Right here. SFA, its kind of on you to look at this.
I would really like to see what you have to say about this, and for it to be public so the other townies can too.
My "evidence" (misguided as it was) for EAP being Mafia:
1) I thought you were inspector (and you named NoAge) 2) EAP tried to partner with NoAge 3) the verbiage she used
so I made a mistake. Big whoop.
I have one question for you Scrog:
If you were mafia with me in my rookie game, would you let me run wild as I seem to be doing, or would you advise me to shut my trap? I think everyone here knows that answer. And I would take advice if that were the case. Not knowing my arse from a hole in the ground when it comes to this game = maddening. With zero guidance, it should be expected that I make an error or 2 in wording posts.
If you, bonzai and Abra are mafia, it would make sense for you to tear SFA and myself apart. And protect Abra in this runoff (which you are adamantly doing). Why are you proteecting here? It makees no logical sense.
When her feet were to the fire, she was backtracking and being very confusing. So she got quiet. Great defense. Hide in plain sight.
Townies, voting me off or forgoing the runoff is a huge mistake. You want to talk about connections and alliances?
TAKE A LOOK AT Abra and Scrog. Just sayin.
Where was a backtracking or being quiet? Whatever I've been doing I certainly haven't been hiding in plain sight. The only reason I haven't pointed more of a finger at some people is that their play styles aren't consistent with them being mafia. Read some of the other games. People have patterns in how they act when they are townies vs mafia. You might be at a disadvantage here because I have nothing to look back on since it's your first game. I haven't done a lot of vote switching or protecting anyone. You first said NoAge is mafia and then later decided to follow his and Phi's ever move blindly. THAT is all I have to go off on you and for me, it's enough.
Where was a backtracking or being quiet? Whatever I've been doing I certainly haven't been hiding in plain sight. The only reason I haven't pointed more of a finger at some people is that their play styles aren't consistent with them being mafia. Read some of the other games. People have patterns in how they act when they are townies vs mafia. You might be at a disadvantage here because I have nothing to look back on since it's your first game. I haven't done a lot of vote switching or protecting anyone. You first said NoAge is mafia and then later decided to follow his and Phi's ever move blindly. THAT is all I have to go off on you and for me, it's enough.
Which angle would you like to look at the NoAge thing from? Lets start with If we were both Mafia:
If we were both mafia, I seriously doubt he would suggest I accuse him of being mafia. That seems insane to me. And I certainly wouldnt do it on my own.
If I was mafia and he wasnt? I wouldn't switch from pointing the finger at him to playing nice, and looking elsewhere. I would keep the pressure/heat on (again, I assume with the direction of my fellow mafia if I was one)
If he is mafia? Well I would probably be confused, and try to get to the bottom of what he was. Which at this point, I feel satisfied that he is not. If I get burned this time with the outside bets, so be it.
Whatever the case may be, if I am making rookie mistakes I guess I have to accept it.
I almost feel like with my miswordings in some posts that I may be making it tougher on my fellow townies this game. I don't like to lose, and I don't want to let anyone down, but Im in the dark here.
Most of my reasoning for thining NoAge being mafia stemmed from my belief that Scrog was inspector. Once that got cleared up, the suspicion dissipated.
Most of my reasoning for thining NoAge being mafia stemmed from my belief that Scrog was inspector. Once that got cleared up, the suspicion dissipated.
Yes Me and Abra were Mafia, Last game! Not that does not mean we can not both be Mafia again, but Surf as a betting man, you are not taking that bet. Surf, you know what is a weak augment. You saying I was Inspector and from that you thought Noage was Mafia, which led you to Mafia being "voting partners", which is Phi's idea, not Scrogs', and that led you to EAP. You blaming me, for you being wrong about EAP is a weak argument. I have nothing against you voting for EAP, your attitude and over confidence paints you as Mafia. I think SFA, knows I am not Mafia or has a good idea. He knows how I am like a bulldog when it comes to this. I am well known for jumping on people with little to go on, but I should not be speaking for him. His votes will show that.
Where was a backtracking or being quiet? Whatever I've been doing I certainly haven't been hiding in plain sight. The only reason I haven't pointed more of a finger at some people is that their play styles aren't consistent with them being mafia. Read some of the other games. People have patterns in how they act when they are townies vs mafia. You might be at a disadvantage here because I have nothing to look back on since it's your first game. I haven't done a lot of vote switching or protecting anyone. You first said NoAge is mafia and then later decided to follow his and Phi's ever move blindly. THAT is all I have to go off on you and for me, it's enough.
Which angle would you like to look at the NoAge thing from? Lets start with If we were both Mafia:
If we were both mafia, I seriously doubt he would suggest I accuse him of being mafia. That seems insane to me. And I certainly wouldnt do it on my own.
If I was mafia and he wasnt? I wouldn't switch from pointing the finger at him to playing nice, and looking elsewhere. I would keep the pressure/heat on (again, I assume with the direction of my fellow mafia if I was one)
If he is mafia? Well I would probably be confused, and try to get to the bottom of what he was. Which at this point, I feel satisfied that he is not. If I get burned this time with the outside bets, so be it.
Whatever the case may be, if I am making rookie mistakes I guess I have to accept it.
I almost feel like with my miswordings in some posts that I may be making it tougher on my fellow townies this game. I don't like to lose, and I don't want to let anyone down, but Im in the dark here.
I'm not saying NoAge is mafia, I'm not sure on that point. For all I know he could be a townie that you have latched onto to take you to the end of the game. Aside from the whole NoAge thing I still would like to know how I've backtracked, been quiet, or hidden in plain sight.
I cant find it. I know we had an exchange at some point, and I just went back and looked and couldnt find what it was. This game has gone on pretty long, and rehashing 16 pages of posts is getting tiring. It seems as though I have been in the middle of way too much conversation from the start and maybe its all running together at this point.
I do know that I made the vote for you for a reason. what that reason is at this point I can't put my finger on.
At this point, Scrog is really screaming at me as Mafia, and I can't remember why I voted for you (but there was a reason. And it had to do with something around page 12 I think.. but Im too tired and lazy to read a bunch of pages)
This is probably suicide, but Im ready to be able to think straight without Scrog's pressure. Or get put to rest so I don't have to dance when I shouldn't have to be dancing.