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Post by ColorsAndShapes on Mar 14, 2012 20:49:07 GMT -5
So every year, at every festival, I have to dump out my water before I come in. I totally understand the reasoning behind it but there has to be a way around it. It is not that hard to take out the camel back or lid off the water bottle and smell what is inside. It is pretty easy to tell if it is burbon and coke/beer/vodka or ice cool water.
Recently at festivals I have been trying to just take in ice then fill up with dirty sulfur/barely dripping well water on the inside and they have let that slide. I really think having ice makes a huge difference in keeping the body cool but I am no doctor. At the edward sharpe show I had to pour out my camel back on my girlfriend so she did not pass out (she was seeing in black and white, and perfectly sober). I can't tell you how many times I have given strangers with there eyes in the back of their head some water and they perk right up and thank me form the bottom of their hearts. But if I don't have water at all times I am not happy, especially during the day.
Bonnaroo has gotten a little better about water. Though you still sometimes have to wait in line for 30 mins for some water that trickles (and you are missing who you want to see) while people are all yelling at you in the back (cause they are missing who they want to see). I feel every year the deaths are mostly from dehydration. While NO NO WORD!!! are usually involved too, loading them up with some water would not have been that hard.
Also, add $20 or whatever to my ticket price. Just give/let me have Fing water. I know you can buy for $3 but you can't always get there, and it never enough.
So all in all I have no idea where to go from here but I think it is a real problem. Not just deaths, but passing out and just pure annoyance. It is pretty much my only problem with any festival. I am even cool with the lines. Maybe there is enough of us on here to care to let us take in the stuff that covers 70% of the world. I don't know...
Just let me know your thoughts and maybe there is some super strict reason we can't bring in water I do not know about.
Sorry if there was a thread for something like this already, I am sure someone has had to bring this up.
ps. Don't take my glow sticks either... I won't launch them at the perfectly timed moment during a song creating a beautiful display for the people around. ;D
pps. Actually a girl I was with got hit directly in the eye with a glow stick, but its still awesome. They are not that heavy.
Post by plasticpepper on Mar 14, 2012 22:00:30 GMT -5
I don't know, to me it's just one of the facts of Bonnaroo: you will need to devote part of your time and your mental facilities to keeping yourself hydrated. Yes, it sucks waiting in line for water (especially when the line is more of a mob and you're tiny like me and never manage to get any closer to the front!), especially when you're missing something you want to see, but there's not a whole lot that can be done about it. Well, that's not strictly true - more water stations are always good, and they've been making strides in that department. There are ways to improve the situation, I just don't think there's any magical solution that's going to totally fix it.
As for letting people bring in water at the gate - tbh I think it probably would slow the lines down significantly to have the volunteers sniff-check everything. I can't necessarily blame them for that rule. And besides, how long does the water you bring in last? I guess if you're toting a camelbak with a fairly large bladder it might last a while, but you're still going to need a refill eventually. It's not as if letting people bring in water would make the lines disappear - I'm not convinced you'd even notice a difference at all.
I don't know, to me it's just one of the facts of Bonnaroo: you will need to devote part of your time and your mental facilities to keeping yourself hydrated. Yes, it sucks waiting in line for water (especially when the line is more of a mob and you're tiny like me and never manage to get any closer to the front!), especially when you're missing something you want to see, but there's not a whole lot that can be done about it. Well, that's not strictly true - more water stations are always good, and they've been making strides in that department. There are ways to improve the situation, I just don't think there's any magical solution that's going to totally fix it.
As for letting people bring in water at the gate - tbh I think it probably would slow the lines down significantly to have the volunteers sniff-check everything. I can't necessarily blame them for that rule. And besides, how long does the water you bring in last? I guess if you're toting a camelbak with a fairly large bladder it might last a while, but you're still going to need a refill eventually. It's not as if letting people bring in water would make the lines disappear - I'm not convinced you'd even notice a difference at all.
Just one comment: It takes longer to have someone dump their bottle/camelbak than to sniff it and be on your merry way. The water situation is stupid...either get some damn pressure in those spouts or let us bring our own in. 2010 I don't remember being too bad, but last year was just ridiculous. I remember waiting so long in line that I gave up and bought a bottle from a vendor.
I think that's their goal though...so I guess they win.
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I don't know, to me it's just one of the facts of Bonnaroo: you will need to devote part of your time and your mental facilities to keeping yourself hydrated. Yes, it sucks waiting in line for water (especially when the line is more of a mob and you're tiny like me and never manage to get any closer to the front!), especially when you're missing something you want to see, but there's not a whole lot that can be done about it. Well, that's not strictly true - more water stations are always good, and they've been making strides in that department. There are ways to improve the situation, I just don't think there's any magical solution that's going to totally fix it.
As for letting people bring in water at the gate - tbh I think it probably would slow the lines down significantly to have the volunteers sniff-check everything. I can't necessarily blame them for that rule. And besides, how long does the water you bring in last? I guess if you're toting a camelbak with a fairly large bladder it might last a while, but you're still going to need a refill eventually. It's not as if letting people bring in water would make the lines disappear - I'm not convinced you'd even notice a difference at all.
I agree with devoting time but I feel like there should just be good water pressure and plenty of water. Also remember that everyone that comes is not a veteran. I know it is hard to get out on the farm. But that is really all I ask/need and you can add it to my ticket cost.
If you guys think I am just being a cry baby then I am sorry but I feel people would have a better/safer time if water was flowing for the masses. I can't stand watching people pass out during a show, it ruins it.
If you go and take a look at the Bonnaroo website under their quetions place you will see that they are now allowing camelbaks to be allowed in with water in them this year. They will be subject to "sniff" tests to make sure you arent bringing in a camebak ful of rum but they will allow you to bring in one full of water.
If you go and take a look at the Bonnaroo website under their quetions place you will see that they are now allowing camelbaks to be allowed in with water in them this year. They will be subject to "sniff" tests to make sure you arent bringing in a camebak ful of rum but they will allow you to bring in one full of water.
Bonnie Bonnaroo (Employee) 3 days ago Camelbacks will be allowed into Centeroo this year. You may bring them in with water in them but may be subject to a sniff test to make sure you are hydrating yourself and not bringing in alcohol.
If you go and take a look at the Bonnaroo website under their quetions place you will see that they are now allowing camelbaks to be allowed in with water in them this year. They will be subject to "sniff" tests to make sure you arent bringing in a camebak ful of rum but they will allow you to bring in one full of water.
I wonder how many cans of beer I can fit in a camelbak bladder?
If you go and take a look at the Bonnaroo website under their quetions place you will see that they are now allowing camelbaks to be allowed in with water in them this year. They will be subject to "sniff" tests to make sure you arent bringing in a camebak ful of rum but they will allow you to bring in one full of water.
That is a great decision. I'm glad that they are thinking about the safety of the attendees above revenue. I'm all for making a buck but not at the expense of my customer's health. Dead people don't spend money.
I've had a camelbak each year I've been 08, 09, and 11, and I didn't have to dump it out once... It's all about watching the people doing the searches and picking your spot. I had one guy ask if I had any drugs on me, and before I could answer told me that he hoped I did and to have a good day! LOL!! It's all about picking your security guy....
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If you go and take a look at the Bonnaroo website under their quetions place you will see that they are now allowing camelbaks to be allowed in with water in them this year. They will be subject to "sniff" tests to make sure you arent bringing in a camebak ful of rum but they will allow you to bring in one full of water.
That is a great decision. I'm glad that they are thinking about the safety of the attendees above revenue. I'm all for making a buck but not at the expense of my customer's health. Dead people don't spend money.
Agreed times a million. One of the things I like most about Roo is its friendly and accommodating features. Food and drinks are reasonably priced, water is free and available, and you don't feel like they are price gouging for a quick money grab. They truly value the customers' experience over making a buck, and its one of the reasons I will always love and support Roo.
Ultra Music Festival was the complete polar opposite as far as this issue is concerned and for that reason i'll never go back, despite the music being fantastic.
One thing that does bother me though is that they support StubHub...
The whole water thing really pisses me off. Staying hydrated at Roo is a constant battle. The little money they earn by making someone dump out what might be liquor is not worth risking someone passing out or even dieing from dehydration. It's just another example of profits over people.
Post by th3int3rn3t on Mar 15, 2012 11:32:58 GMT -5
This is awesome news, in '10 I never had to dump mine (even brought water bottles in full of blue liquor), but last year I had to dump it about half of the time and my pack was a pain to fill up. Just the other day I bought a new camelback that looks like a bookbag and the bladder is hidden so I wouldn't have to dump it... But looks like I won't anyways!
Just the other day I bought a new camelback that looks like a bookbag and the bladder is hidden so I wouldn't have to dump it... But looks like I won't anyways!
I've done this every year I've gone, and never had to dump my camelbak. Just keep your hose tucked away, and you should be good.
We don't do the camelbacks or mess with any of the "free" water. Too much of a hassle. We take in a couple of giant sealed frozen bottles and when that is gone we just buy cold water from the vendors as needed. Yes it costs $$ but it's one of the things (that and taking the taxi's) that we feel is worth the money.
Post by klimfactor on Mar 15, 2012 15:21:20 GMT -5
The water issue has been debated on this board countless times after recent 'roos. I've got to think this change - not making people dump out their water - was prompted by customer feedback. It's a great move, and I'm glad 'roo was listening.
Post by fromthebark on Mar 15, 2012 18:48:04 GMT -5
Whats to stop the guy that died at bonnaroo from dehydrations family from suing superfly productions for millions? actually i bet theres at least one or two that have already. dont at least 2 people die every year at roo? Im sure one of their higherups has considered this problem at least once in the past and figured out letting people keep their water might outweigh letting a couple hundred have alcohol in their camelbaks. at least in the past its been better than the other '8 dollars for a bottle of water' festivals that you hear so much about these days. damn fools.
yeah, those lines for water can be tough... I suggest bringing extra water storage so you don't need to fill up as much.
My Camelback-pack came with a 2L bladder, but I replaced it with a 3L one i typically use for backpacking. And I also bring a 1L nalgene bottle, carabinered to my pack, that i use for flavor/sodium mixers.
Post by stillsick1 on Mar 16, 2012 11:07:50 GMT -5
Really happy to hear about the camelbacks being allowed, Now if they can only let me keep the water in my spray bottle so my face doesnt smell like farts from the sulfur fountains in centeroo...
I remember stumbling through the heat on Friday when I came upon a watering tower with no line whatsoever. I thought it was a mirage. Then I thought I was the luckiest person on earth. I ran up to fill my jug, started gulping it down and then coughed it all back up in shock.
This guy in aviators too big for his face and a fishing hat was like "You've never had the fart water?" and my shock turned to laughter to disgust to laughter again and from that moment on, it was fart water.
We don't do the camelbacks or mess with any of the "free" water. Too much of a hassle. We take in a couple of giant sealed frozen bottles and when that is gone we just buy cold water from the vendors as needed. Yes it costs $$ but it's one of the things (that and taking the taxi's) that we feel is worth the money.
I'm sure many would agree that a Camelbak or your own large water bottle is a lot less of a hassle than buying little disposable bottles from vendors every hour or so. Plus, filling up your Camelbak or bottle in Centeroo isn't a challenge at all, if you use a little common sense and time it right. At the same time, whatever works to keep you hydrated!
Post by itrainmonkeys on Mar 16, 2012 13:43:38 GMT -5
I usually fill up my water bottle if i'm passing a water station and the lines are small but I also go throughout my day buying water bottles. Usually get two at a time and just chug the first one and continue my journey with the other.
I've never run into "massive lines" for the water refils, and had to refil many a time... Bathroom lines are 4x as long as water lines, don't see what the big deal is....
I was lying in a burned out basement With the full moon in my eyes. I was hoping for replacement When the sun burst thru the sky. There was a band playing in my head And I felt like getting high.