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Post by edgecrusher on Feb 6, 2008 18:52:34 GMT -5
Ya know, I've been a reader of this Forum for quite sometime but I haven't felt compelled to join until now, mainly because I've seen 2 of my favorite bands "Heavily" bashed in less than 24hrs of the lineup being released. Yeah...Metallica and Mastodon are playing Bonnaroo, so fucking what? That's why there is more than one stage. If you don't like what your hearing, go somewhere else and find something to listen too. "Expand your mind" by running away from something new because we all know that is the exact definition of that phrase.
Bonnaroo is suppose to be about diverse musical acts OF ALL KINDS, checking out new music, bringing people together, cool arts and crafts, and a generally positive atmosphere. None of that has changed in the past, or is going to change in the future! If you don't agree, you obviously have not experienced or ever experienced everything that this great festival has to offer...
I'm tired of hearing about Bonnaroo going corporate...I got news for you, it always has been!!! It costs money to do things...it costs money to do just about everything. If Bonnaroo had more money 6 years ago, you would've seen the same gigantic bands of the last 2-3 years back then. That's why some of you can't adjust to the change. Bonnaroo started with jam bands because they're cheaper and already have a cult following.(Hmm, kinda like the underground metal scene?) That's how you build the foundation of an awesome festival...
It takes time to build a name like Bonnaroo, Coachella, Langerado, Lollapalooza. Bonnaroo has gone from something small to something big in a moderate amount of time. The bigger it gets, or anything like it, more people and bands will notice. Translation: More people expand their musical library, more great bands get fans...Those fans tell their friends, of fans, of bands, of friends and the cycle continues. I am one of those people.
I hated the idea of going to Bonnaroo at first and being in the atmosphere of a bunch of hippie bullshit, but I gave it a chance. I skipped my first chance in 2005 and have regretted it ever since. The last 2 years I've been at Bonnaroo I have never been happier or more at peace with myself and surroundings, and am a better person because of it(Jesus, I sound like one of those hippie people). Plus I've gotten into a ton of musical genres that I never thought I would, a hard feat for a metalhead. It's awesome to be able to listen to Mastodon, Opeth, Decapitated, Dying Fetus, In Flames, and then on to Umphrey's, Flaming Lips, My Morning Jacket, Phish, Old Crow, etc. I am open-minded enough to take all this in because I got Bonnaroo, which at least 25% of this forum seems incapable of doing. Quit bashing bands and the festival and trying to ruin it for people who actually enjoy everything this festival has to offer like me.
In the words of our headliner: DO THE EVOLUTION BABY!!!
I'm with you on this one!!! I'm going to Bonnaroo for the first time this year. I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of different bands. Metallica and Mastodon are both fantastic live bands. I had never heard of Mastodon until I saw them live, and now they are one of my favorite bands. Mastodon was one of the highligts of Pitchfork last year. They may not be everyone's cup of tea, but its going to add diversity. I wouldn't drive across the country for only one genre of music. (not that I don't like jam bands) I may be a Bonnaroo virgin this year, but I'm going for the whole experience and not just one band or style of music. I think a little metal isn't going to ruin that. In my opinion it adds to the experience.
Post by confusedsince81 on Feb 6, 2008 20:04:56 GMT -5
eric75 said:
I'm with you on this one!!! I'm going to Bonnaroo for the first time this year. I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of different bands. Metallica and Mastodon are both fantastic live bands. I had never heard of Mastodon until I saw them live, and now they are one of my favorite bands. Mastodon was one of the highligts of Pitchfork last year. They may not be everyone's cup of tea, but its going to add diversity. I wouldn't drive across the country for only one genre of music. (not that I don't like jam bands) I may be a Bonnaroo virgin this year, but I'm going for the whole experience and not just one band or style of music. I think a little metal isn't going to ruin that. In my opinion it adds to the experience.
metallica headling friday is not a little bit of metal, i however could care less about them being there at this point just thought i'd point out thats not a little metal!
It's two or three hours of metal, not 96 straight hours of it.
I've tried to remain positive all day, but the naysayers have really put a damper on what is going to be my first Bonnaroo. I'm not a metal or rap fan, and I'm not necessarily a jam band person, either (though I do enjoy some).
You're allowed to feel disappointed in the lineup, but can't those of you who are displeased find a way to voice that displeasure a little more kindly? Please don't rain on the parade of others who have really been looking forward to experiencing Bonnaroo.
Don't let the bashing get you down, man. This board has gone through it's own little evolution every year, with plenty of folks having their tastes expanded in ways they never thought imaginable. Sure, there are some around here who just don't want to let it happen, but don't worry...we always manage!
You're right. I'm on another music board and there was all kinds of Bonnaroo bashing there today, too...by people who aren't even going to the festival! I understand people here are disappointed, really I do. It's just sad to see such negativity and stereotyping going on in a community that purports itself to be so enlightened. The very vibe people are railing against is the same vibe they are bringing here with some of these posts.
I'm really excited about the lineup. The people who are complaining are the same ones who base their opinions of something on what they don't like about it rather than what they do like. I may not care for Metallica or Pearl Jam (two of the three headliners) but there are so many other acts that I'm incredibly excited to see this year. Just don't let the things you don't like get you down, man. Keep up the good vibes and you'll be guaranteed a great experience!
Also, every year people complain about the headliners, about how "they'll bring in that crowd that's gonna ruin everything" and you know what? Every year, those same people go to Roo, have a great time, and come back saying they can't believe they didn't want [insert band name here] to play. Whether it was Tool, Radiohead, whoever. The farm is still there. That crowd hasn't burned it down yet. They won't this year, either.
Post by surronohappo on Feb 7, 2008 11:33:22 GMT -5
I think people are overestimating the power that Metallica wields in terms of "ruining the vibe." Sure Metallica is a metal band, but more than that, Metallica is a nostalgia act. I honestly don't think it's THAT much difference than whatever element the Police brought last year. Just hang out in the back and sing along with Enter Sandman and don't even act like you're not enjoying it.
If you would stop and notice that we number every day But allow the many moments left uncounted slip away You don't have to count them, just enjoy them one by one Then things would take a different hue and sparkle in the sun - Phish
Post by littlebirdie on Feb 7, 2008 12:36:15 GMT -5
I'm not trying to be mean but you have to realize any situation has a good side and a bad side. Not every tiny little thing that happens or goes on at bonnaroo is an enlightning positive experience...this is a board about bonnaroo, I didn't realize that we are only allowed to talk about what we like about it and not about what we would like to change. If you don't want to read about the negatives stop going into threads that are negative!
I see being open as being able to accept the good and the bad of a situation and talk about it! You're being close minded if you refuse to see both sides. And as far as being open minded about music I am, but there is something a little pathetic about conforming to love every single band on this line up just because it's bonnaroo...it must be good right? I know who I am, I know what I like...I'm not going to sit through 3 hours of metal and suddenly like it....it's just not going to happen.
And if you've never been to bonnaroo before you will have a great time I'm sure...but straight out ignoring concern for your own safety (which is my concern with the metal bands not their music), happiness, belongings and health will leave you in serious culture shock once you arrive. Sometimes it's not a bad thing to read about people's bad experiences and learn from them.
Not to mention I'm seriously confused on why females on this board are not concerned about safety at all. Everyone knows metal bands breed an angry vibe (that's their whole niche) we've read in other posts about females being abused at their shows and about people getting hurt in mosh pits. This is the enviornment it breeds (hello the end of olla and woodstock)....nobody is concerned? I want to feel safe period. With these types of bands there I won't...and if I do end up at bonnaroo this year I will feel like I need to be attached to my boyfriend at all times which really won't be fun for either of us!
Ok rant over and I do apologize to anyone who feels bad reading the negative opinions of roo...but you have to realize I like many others writing them have been before and never ever did I want to see anything endanger it. but opinions are opinions take them for what they are worth to you.
"If the sight of the blue skies fills you with joy, if a blade of grass springing up in the fields has the power to move you, if the simple things in nature have a message you understand, Rejoice, for your soul is alive."
kay... I was a metal fan long before I got into jam bands, grunge, what have you. I think metal fans get a bad rap a majority of the time. Yes there are major a-holes who go to metal shows. They are not the norm. I've known metal fans to be some of the best people around. It's been my experience that jocks are a hell of a lot worse. I saw more "brah" sayin, white-hats being pricks last year then anyone with a Tool shirt on.
Post by supernaut6011 on Feb 7, 2008 14:25:02 GMT -5
I love this board! I finally get my karma to 0, I bash Phish, and here I am back to negative! LOL Not my fault Greatful Dead and Phish aren't very good! Haters!
Post by famousblueraincoat on Feb 7, 2008 16:12:10 GMT -5
edgecrusher said:
In the words of our headliner: DO THE EVOLUTION BABY!!!
This should be the Inforoo theme for 2008. Put it on the shirts. Karma to you, my friend. I will get on this train of thought and ride it all the way home.
Not to mention I'm seriously confused on why females on this board are not concerned about safety at all.
I'm very much concerned for my safety, at Bonnaroo and elsewhere. If the other attendees were 79,999 metal fans, I probably wouldn't be there because (a) metal is not my scene and (b) the crowd would probably be too much for me. I just don't buy that one band out of 100 is going to bring in enough unruly people to make it a problem for me. I won't be anywhere near the mosh pits and might not even be in the crowd for Metallica.
I'd be concerned for MY safety if it were 79,999 metal fans! Metallica isn't my favorite, but they do have some good songs and as long as there aren't any conflicts I'll go and check them out. I will not be moshing however.
Don't worry man. REAL hippies used to listen to the hardest rock out there (late 60s). The post-modern neo-hippies just listen to "jam music." And most of them are really just head cases one bad trip away from the mental institution.
If someone complains about people not "expanding their mind" and only listen to Dead/Phish/*Insert 30 minute songs band in here* then they are doing quite the opposite.
I Not to mention I'm seriously confused on why females on this board are not concerned about safety at all. Everyone knows metal bands breed an angry vibe (that's their whole niche) we've read in other posts about females being abused at their shows and about people getting hurt in mosh pits. This is the enviornment it breeds (hello the end of olla and woodstock)....nobody is concerned? I want to feel safe period. With these types of bands there I won't...and if I do end up at bonnaroo this year I will feel like I need to be attached to my boyfriend at all times which really won't be fun for either of us!
You opinions are good - for the most part - I for one - am a died and true metalhead - always have been and always will be - I love metal - harder, louder and faster then most females. That is just me - but you know what - I have never been scared at a metal concert and doubt that I ever will be.
I love Korn, Disturbed, Metallia, Slipknot, Shawdows Fall, Godsmack (well - maybe not true metal), NIN, Ministry, Pantera, Slayer.
but I also love most other types of music. and like I said - Safety has NEVER been an issue for me. I cannot see that safety would ever be an issue for me at Bonnaroo - but that is just me. Just my opinion - everyone has them - opinions
Post by fallenangel on Feb 8, 2008 20:29:48 GMT -5
these are all very very good points on both sides. I feel like bonnaroo is what you make it...everyone enjoys themselves on way or another and if you don't like something, there is a bunch of other things to see and do...last year was the first year i ever was at a festival much less bonnaroo i was amazed with everything that i witnessed. Im not a big fan of metallica or kayne west and even though i dont want to see them play, that doesn't mean they cant be there. Obviously there are people that would like to see them and then others that dont...its up to every person on there own...so if you want to see metallica go see metallica, but please don't be super upset if someone doesn't care to see them...
There's no combination of words I could put on the back of a postcard. No song that I could sing. But I can try for your heart Our dreams, and they are made out of real things Like a, shoebox of photographs With sepiatone loving Love is the answer
A little feeling in my gut that I get of late when I think about these cats running the world with hate
i hate these hater posts its bonnarooo. wtf i saw metallica on master of puppets tour . now i could take it or leave it .for maybe umphreys latenite or plant with warren who knows bonnaroooo
To the poster that felt metal brings more "danger", it just isn't true. I've been to Clutch and Sevendust. I've been to Metallica and Pearl Jam. I've been to Petty and Roger Waters. I've been to Phish and (insert jamband here). Heck, I saw Rod Stewart when I was in high school. You know what they all had in common? A small % of drunk a holes. It doesn't matter what kind of music it is.
People experience music to absorb or release energy, or both. Whether it's physical energy, spiritual energy, or just sitting back and taking it in, it's almost always about that person in their moment. They aren't looking to impact anyone else's time.
So don't fret and don't spread fear. With so much great bluegrass, I bet you see black tee shirt guy dancing with overalls and no shirt guy all weekend long while saggy pants guy wishes he could join in the fun (and eventuall does).
there will be a small group of people who go for metallica. (i'm going with one) and in the desire to see metallica he might be turned onto bands that are more "classic bonnaroo" derived. If those bands make new fans I think it'll be better for the scene
Post by dogfighter28 on Feb 9, 2008 17:37:55 GMT -5
The bottom line is that every genre of music brings douchebags out of the woodwork at their shows. The best we can do is deal with it and expand our minds.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Feb 9, 2008 19:37:40 GMT -5
Bonnaroo is not about peace and kind actions, its about music, the peace corps does not put i on. Maybe some people find that there, but that is not their main priority. I just find it very entertaining that i have been to two bonnaroos where i don't really like any of the headliners, and i was just positive about it every year. Now that i have some headliners i enjoy a bunch of people come onto this board and start bashing them, typical. ;D Seriously though, Metallica is not going to bring any danger, you must not know about their fans. Maybe they will use their real life world of warcraft powers against the bonnaroo crowd!
