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I don't see how anyone could jump into a disagreement between others on here and then be offended or shocked that they end up in the argument?
"i have never claimed to be perfect or be the easiest person to get along with, but i'm not going to let people run all over this board and make others feel like shiz"
Look we get along and have never had a problem, that I know of. But that statement seems like it will lead to to one fight after another for you. Mu opinion is that most people can work it out disagreements or if it gets bad enough bring it to a Mod. Just an opinion.
Because I had an opinion that I didn't feel was being fully understood by the other members on this board.
And that argument happened twice. And one time was with a crazy person.
And I didn't get angry and throw a fit. Involving Mods and whatnot. So no, it didn't bother me. I know what kind of parent I am and my kids love festivals. So what anyone else says to me about it means next to nothing. Especially not something that I'm going to get real life upset about.
There is a difference between internet emotion and real life emotion.
Also I think it's been decided that bringing peoples kids into the mix is crossing a line.
i don't think you are attacking me i just think you don't understand what i am saying. i do not think you are in the same vein as juggs and noD i'm sorry if you felt i'm lumping you that way. but you do have to admit its kind of hard for me to not think you are on jugg's "side" when you immediately hop in and start defending him, saying i insulted him, when all i did was patronizingly agree with him. the fact that juggs thinks he has ANY right to complain about people "shitting" on his opinion is downright laughable. here is a picture of two PMs from TWO YEARS AGO where juggs had been rude to me in a thread and i asked him to ease up. you can see how well that worked out for me:
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how sweet, he ADMITTEDLY insults so many people he can't keep track of it!
ITM, i do believe you are trying to make the best of this and i do accept your apology and i do not want to fight with you. i'm sorry for causing a fuss, but maybe we can both agree to distance ourselves for awhile.
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Post by clevelndmike on Aug 10, 2012 15:05:51 GMT -5
If you get into a fight with Juggs, defend yourself. If you get into fights with either 1Karen1 or ITM, you have to ask yourself if you're in the wrong. If you get into fights with both......?????
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem
i don't think you are attacking me i just think you don't understand what i am saying. here is a picture of two PMs from TWO YEARS AGO where juggs had been rude to me
I don't believe we should be posting PRIVATE messages in the interest of swaying PUBLIC opinion. Seems a bit desparate, and plenty malevolent.
i don't think you are attacking me i just think you don't understand what i am saying. here is a picture of two PMs from TWO YEARS AGO where juggs had been rude to me
I don't believe we should be posting PRIVATE messages in the interest of swaying PUBLIC opinion. Seems a bit desparate, and plenty malevolent.
But that's just my opinion, obviously.
1. i thought you blocked me?
2. 1karen1 said i "threw a hissy fit and got mods involved and what not". i was simply showing that i had tried to take care of juggs before in private and it did not work.
The comment about not being able to keep track of all the people I insult was a joke. Apologies that you didn't get it. Other than that, I fail to see what was offensive about my reply.
its not offensive, i'm just trying to point out that i don't think you see how what you say effects people in a negative way a lot of times and it would be nice if you would ease up.
The comment about not being able to keep track of all the people I insult was a joke. Apologies that you didn't get it. Other than that, I fail to see what was offensive about my reply.
its not offensive, i'm just trying to point out that i don't think you see how what you say effects people in a negative way a lot of times and it would be nice if you would ease up.
Pretty sure it's affects. I don't think he has an effect on ayone. But it's been a while scince I've been to english class
i don't think you are attacking me i just think you don't understand what i am saying. i do not think you are in the same vein as juggs and noD i'm sorry if you felt i'm lumping you that way. but you do have to admit its kind of hard for me to not think you are on jugg's "side" when you immediately hop in and start defending him, saying i insulted him, when all i did was patronizingly agree with him.
I defended Juggs in this one instance because I felt he didn't do anything wrong. He posted his random opinions/observations of watching the Olympics. Ned then asked for clarification, which you seemed to take as Ned disagreeing with Juggs while I perceived it as Ned just wanting to know exactly what Juggs was trying to say. I think it was like this because after Juggs explains what he meant Ned then responds that he now understands what Juggs was saying and that he thought Juggs was just making a blanket statement. They then have a civil back and forth about the topic. No arguments or people being made to feel like shiz.
So at this point...I think you assumed that Ned was saying Juggs was wrong (for his opinion) but I think Ned was just asking for Juggs to clarify.
At this point Juggs just asked you not to respond to his posts. It's a fine request that anyone can make and you are free to comply to or deny that request. It was then that I felt you started being a bit rude and insulting towards him. Yes, he may have bothered you in the past but that had nothing to do with what he was saying about the Olympics. You implied he was trying to say he knows everything and other people's opinions are wrong when really all he was doing was posting his opinions on the Olympics. I don't think he was pushing his ideas on anyone and saying "This is how it is".
I understand you have a past with him where you've felt he's treated you unfairly. But I'll say again two wrongs don't make a right. Juggs asked you twice to stop responding to his posts and you chose not to. That's why I may have sided with him in this instance. I felt he was giving his opinions and you were condescendingly patronizing him for no reason.
the fact that juggs thinks he has ANY right to complain about people "shitting" on his opinion is downright laughable. here is a picture of two PMs from TWO YEARS AGO where juggs had been rude to me in a thread and i asked him to ease up. you can see how well that worked out for me:
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how sweet, he ADMITTEDLY insults so many people he can't keep track of it!
Juggs has always admitted to being an jerkstore but he doesn't just attack people for the fun of it (at least IMO....perception is different for everyone). If he disagrees with you he'll be vocal about it and if he feels you aren't presenting a good argument for your side of an opinion he'll let you know. But he's also been dealt with when he crosses lines and when people complain. I've felt when he is called out he explains his side of things.
Also, he admits in that PM that he doesn't even know who you are. I get that way a lot of times too...where I'll be responding to people but not really even knowing who i'm responding to. I post so much on here I can't keep track of each poster I've responded to. I'm sorry that he bothered you two years ago and that he didn't "ease up". I was not a moderator then so I don't know any specifics of this.
ITM, i do believe you are trying to make the best of this and i do accept your apology and i do not want to fight with you. i'm sorry for causing a fuss, but maybe we can both agree to distance ourselves for awhile.
Thank you. I appreciate it. But before we distance ourselves for a while I would still like you to please clarify the statements you made about me. Specifically how you feel I use my mod powers unfairly against you. Also specifically what I did or said to "make it clear " that "I don't care for the way you respond to things"?
I ask this to end my confusion and also to help avoid doing these things in the future. So please help me out
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem
If you get into a fight with Juggs, defend yourself. If you get into fights with either 1Karen1 or ITM, you have to ask yourself if you're in the wrong. If you get into fights with both......?????
Well I don't feel like I'm fighting. I'm just trying to figure things out lol
b/c ITM and 1karen1 are right about everything? that's awesome, we should make one of them the president or something.
OMG.... do you just NOT get it??? They are, when compared to this rest of this board, two of the most reasonable, level headed, fair, and decent people here. THEY THE ARE FREAKIN' GENEVA OF INFOROO! I don't know you, have never met you, and while I've cruised this board since February of 2009, only have 420 odd posts, think of confrontation when I think of EAP. You need to dial it back, stop feeling "provoked", and converse.
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem
If you get into a fight with Juggs, defend yourself. If you get into fights with either 1Karen1 or ITM, you have to ask yourself if you're in the wrong. If you get into fights with both......?????
Well I don't feel like I'm fighting. I'm just trying to figure things out lol
ITM... you're like EF Hutton (for those old enough to remember), when you speak , i listen. Not because I always agree with you, but because, you state your opinions honestly, fairly, and reasonably. It's easy to respect someone, even WHEN you disagree with them, when they converse that way.
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem