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Just found out today that my ex wife is dating someone who used to be one of my closest friends.
My feels are anger. And I want to punch into his face.
Edit:
Here is the backstory. I've lived on the same block in New Orleans for the full 5.5 years I've been here. Obviously, my wife used to live on this block, too. The week of Hurricane Isaac (Aug 2012), a new couple moved in across the street. The hurricane knocked out power on our block for about a week, and so all the neighbors banded together to ride it out. My ex and I were only on a "hey, how's it going?" basis with three of our neighbors at that point, but Isaac brought everyone together. The new couple, we'll call the wife AS and the husband NS, also met everyone that week. The whole lot of us grew to be very close.
Fast forward a few years and my ex and I would hang out with this couple often. We were closer with them than anyone else on the block. We would go out to dinner with them, they'd cook for us, we'd go to parades together, the whole nine yards. NS and I would also play soccer together once or twice a week with a large group of international friends of his (he is from Trinidad). We went on vacations with this couple. We planned birthday parties together. We even invited them to come back to Mississippi with us to stay with another couple we were friends with.
While NS and I hung out fairly often doing "dude things," he also was growing a solid friendship with my ex. He was a little older and was a good listener (he is also a whiner, could be a real downer, and never treated his wife all that well), so I noticed my wife relying on him for emotional connections at an increased rate. This was near the end of our relationship when I was pretty emotionally unavailable.
In early November of 2014, my ex left our home to stay in a hotel for the first time. She had come to realize that she wanted out of the marriage. While I knew she was not very happy, it came as a total shock to me that she was interested in a for real separation and possible divorce. I was devastated. That night, I felt like I couldn't be alone. So, I texted NS and asked if I could come over and talk.
When I got over there, I found out that NS's wife AS had left him the night before. It was insanely strange timing. It was no secret that NS and AS were having serious trouble. They never got along. She had recently become devoutly religious and he was an atheist/Buddhist, which I think just made things worse for them. That night, we helped each other deal with the situation by having some beers, talking, and playing some video games. I very much needed that distraction.
Over the next weeks, we would hang out regularly as a means of coping and distracting ourselves. He seemed a lot more okay with the separation than I because he wasn't sure he really wanted to be with AS any longer. She was very interested in going to couple's therapy and he wasn't interested in making things work. In his mind, she never wanted to spend any time with him. She was becoming very successful at work and working increasingly longer hours. He suspected she was having an emotional relationship with her boss. He also hated that she was spending her free time away from him. She was in a small Broadway style production in her free time, and other nights was going to church alone. The writing was on the wall that they were done.
In the meantime, I'm doing everything I can to get my ex back. NS is being a great listener for me and giving me what I felt at the time to be great advice. He is also visiting my ex to check on her. He would tell me how she was feeling, to an extent, and give me advice on how I should react and try to win her back.
As helpful as he was, and I still maintain that I needed his friendship at that time for sanity purposes, he was spending more and more time with her, fulfilling roles that I would've fulfilled had my ex allowed me to do so. She had just moved into a new house and he would help her fix things, bring her food, etc. Selfishly, I wanted her to not have someone to help her with those things so that in some twisted way she would miss me and want me back. I know it doesn't make much sense.
I'm not an overly jealous person, but I had been weary of his friendship with my ex for months prior to the separation. I knew the things she was looking for from me and I knew what I was not able to provide for her at that time, namely being there for her emotionally. He was that kind of person. Her love language was mostly acts of service and also quality time. Increasingly, I was being more and more distant and when we were together I was not open to her. He would cook for us, send her encouraging articles, and be there for advice.
I know I've given this man a lot of praise, but he was also a bit of a womanizer. I don't think he necessarily cheated on AS, but he was always talking to other women in shady ways. He was also the type of person who seemed very motivated and driven on paper, but never did anything to achieve his goals. He complained a lot, belittled his wife, and could be pretty annoying about trying to get attention from others.
Anyway, he moved out of the neighborhood about 7-8 months ago, and I haven't spoken to him but maybe twice since. I had lost all respect and trust in him. Let me tell you why.
So, about 2-3 months into the separation, I was feeling less and less optimistic that I had any chance of my ex and I ever reconciling. Every attempt I made at trying to spend time with her, she would dismiss and decline. It culminated one Friday afternoon after work when I invited her to our house for a cooked dinner and opportunity for us to talk. She basically said that maybe I had the wrong idea about things and that she had no interest in any of that. I went to the movies with some friends to distract myself, but that night I had an emotional breakdown. I stayed awake in my room staring at the ceiling until around 4 am. I thought about suicide probably the most legitimately I've ever thought about it because I viewed my life as over. I slept maybe two hours that night. The next day, I sat on my porch and stared at the tree in front of my house for hours. At some point, my next door neighbor and his wife came outside and invited me to dinner. Another neighbor, who lived in the other side of NS's shotgun house, came with us. We'll call her JL. I was not in a good place mentally.
By the end of the night, we were all drunk and JL invited me to her house to get high. I was borderline black out drunk when we went over there. Long story short, we ended up making out and I slept over on a blow up mattress. The next morning, I snuck across the street to my house, still very drunk. I didn't know how to process the night, but I honestly felt like I needed that to happen. It gave me a glimmer of happiness or at least excitement. I spoke privately to NS about the situation because I needed to process it. NS was not very happy about it, but he listened.
JL couldn't handle the secrecy and ended up going to my ex's new home one night and confessed everything. My ex called me about it a day or so later and we had a difficult conversation. I think of that moment as possibly the final straw.
Fast forward about six months. I had been dating for about four months at this time. I was getting better each week and becoming happy with my single life and myself. I then find out that my ex knew about JL a lot earlier than JL ever told her. According to my source, my ex said she had "eyes and ears on the block about everything I was doing." She never confronted me about JL until JL herself told her because she didn't want to give away that she had someone informing her about everything.
NS had been going to my ex and telling her things I told him in confidence, including about JL. I have no idea if he was telling her lies, exaggerating things, or simply just breaking my trust. I mean, I talked to this guy about everything during that time. I trusted him at my most vulnerable time.
So when my ex text me yesterday to tell me that had something difficult to talk about, I KNEW she was going to tell me that they were dating. And lo and behold, they are.
I'm no saint. I've been dating other people for months now. Numerous women, as anyone who frequents this thread is aware of. I've wanted her to find someone new and be happy. But not him. I don't trust him. He never treated his ex wife with any respect. I just want to punch him in his throat.
Slash his tires and never speak of it. It's the right thing to do.
The lady and I were talking the other day. She told me that she caught the feels really early on. I asked her when, and she said the very first date. Our first date was at a local craft beer store/bar near her apartment. We were meeting up after work. Given that I get off work first and my office is closer, I got there first. As tradition dictates, I sat at a chair facing the entrance as I don't like to be snuck up on. When I saw her walking in from the parking lot, I got up out of my chair and opened the door of the place for her. As she put it, that was when she knew, and everything else in the remainder of the date was just confirmation. The moral of the story is that manners and little gestures matter, kids. Use them.
The lady and I were talking the other day. She told me that she caught the feels really early on. I asked her when, and she said the very first date. Our first date was at a local craft beer store/bar near her apartment. We were meeting up after work. Given that I get off work first and my office is closer, I got there first. As tradition dictates, I sat at a chair facing the entrance as I don't like to be snuck up on. When I saw her walking in from the parking lot, I got up out of my chair and opened the door of the place for her. As she put it, that was when she knew, and everything else in the remainder of the date was just confirmation. The moral of the story is that manners and little gestures matter, kids. Use them.
Joining an online dating site. Good idea? Bad idea? Recommendations? I'm not meeting any new people at this job and my stasis is really bumming me out. I just need to experience some different people. Even if your advice is to join an indoor soccer league, I'll take it. I realize you all know next-to-nothing about me, but I respect most of your opinions for some reason (in this thread specifically; don't get me started on the opinions of the dummies elsewhere).
Joining an online dating site. Good idea? Bad idea? Recommendations? I'm not meeting any new people at this job and my stasis is really bumming me out. I just need to experience some different people. Even if your advice is to join an indoor soccer league, I'll take it. I realize you all know next-to-nothing about me, but I respect most of your opinions for some reason (in this thread specifically; don't get me started on the opinions of the dummies elsewhere).
I'd do it. Even if you don't find a romantic partner, it can give you a chance to go out and do a variety of things with a variety of ladies.
Re: the indoor soccer league, if there's some activity around town that sparks your interest, go do it. It may not be something you end up doing long term, but you gave it a shot at least and met some new people.
Joining an online dating site. Good idea? Bad idea? Recommendations? I'm not meeting any new people at this job and my stasis is really bumming me out. I just need to experience some different people. Even if your advice is to join an indoor soccer league, I'll take it. I realize you all know next-to-nothing about me, but I respect most of your opinions for some reason (in this thread specifically; don't get me started on the opinions of the dummies elsewhere).
Do it! A decade ago, even a few years ago, there was a bit of an assumption built around online dating - that the people who did it were a bit desperate or a bit undesirable or a bit socially awkward (one or more of those negative things). But now that just isn't the case at all. I have multiple close friends in long term relationships with people they met from a dating site or app (mostly Tinder, it seems) - my best relationship, with the most compatible partner I've been with thus far, came from Tinder. Now enough people are doing the online thing that it really does serve as a shortcut to gaining access to possibly meeting a whole host of people you otherwise likely never would have.
Aside from the obvious Tinder, I would recommend OKC because it is 1) free and 2) you can answer lots of questions about various lifestyle preferences, important life views, common interests, etc., and then see how well you match up with someone. Honestly, I've much preferred Tinder to OKC, but I say try both simultaneously.
Joining an online dating site. Good idea? Bad idea? Recommendations? I'm not meeting any new people at this job and my stasis is really bumming me out. I just need to experience some different people. Even if your advice is to join an indoor soccer league, I'll take it. I realize you all know next-to-nothing about me, but I respect most of your opinions for some reason (in this thread specifically; don't get me started on the opinions of the dummies elsewhere).
I'd do it. Even if you don't find a romantic partner, it can give you a chance to go out and do a variety of things with a variety of ladies.
This is also true. I've gone out on some dates with people who I didnt find particularly romantically compelling yet still felt it was nice to get out and meet new people.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Joining an online dating site. Good idea? Bad idea? Recommendations? I'm not meeting any new people at this job and my stasis is really bumming me out. I just need to experience some different people. Even if your advice is to join an indoor soccer league, I'll take it. I realize you all know next-to-nothing about me, but I respect most of your opinions for some reason (in this thread specifically; don't get me started on the opinions of the dummies elsewhere).
I met Mrs. LD* online, so I can tell you it can/does work. I know other people who met their significant others online too, Popsicle Sarah comes to mind after she moved to Maine. It may help you find someone, it may not. At least it gives you an opportunity to meet people that you may never have found otherwise.
Funny you mention indoor soccer: she does play, and I ended up joining the team after a little while of watching her and friends. I really suck at it, but I have fun out there.
* I call her Mrs. LD, mostly for convenience. In reality we aren't married, and only got engaged a few days before Thanksgiving.
This may be of little help... but I met my better half nearly 8 years ago on a dating website and we've been going strong since then. The trick is to explicitly state what you are looking for... long term relationship, etc. Also, to be honest... if you are a video game nerd who loves to read and listen to Ryan Adams put it in your profile. You may have to weed out a few people who think you're talking about Bryan Adams but eventually you will reach someone who either knows RA (or your equivalent) or wants to discover new music with you.
The trick is to explicitly state what you are looking for... long term relationship, etc. Also, to be honest... if you are a video game nerd who loves to read and listen to Ryan Adams put it in your profile.
So much this. Don't try to pretend to be something that you're not and be honest about what you're looking for out of it. You'll be surprised about the people you find who have the same weird interests that you do.
I recommend reading Aziz Ansari's book Modern Romance for an interesting look at the psychology and philosophy involved in meeting and courtship and stuff. I've been happily dating the same person for 2.5 years and I still found Aziz's book really funny and insightful.
There's a good disclaimer in the beginning stating that the book's scope is pretty much limited to hetero, monogamous relationships, so I get that it doesn't cover every situation out there, but it's pretty enjoyable for what it is.
This book was as funny as it was informative. Definitely a good read! And it was nice to know that a lot of people my age share the same feelings and approaches to dating as I do.
Joining an online dating site. Good idea? Bad idea? Recommendations? I'm not meeting any new people at this job and my stasis is really bumming me out. I just need to experience some different people. Even if your advice is to join an indoor soccer league, I'll take it. I realize you all know next-to-nothing about me, but I respect most of your opinions for some reason (in this thread specifically; don't get me started on the opinions of the dummies elsewhere).
You should definitely go for it. A lot of my friends have had fun with online dating and a few are in long-term relationships.
You should also join that indoor soccer league. That sounds fun. Or at least do an adult sports league like bocce or cornhole that can easily involve drinking.
I'm tired of liking posts in here and finding excuses on why I can't be dating. I've never spent a second on any dating website or Tinder other than my run as the resERECTION on Christian Mingle. I have now joined OK Cupid. God help us all.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I'm tired of liking posts in here and finding excuses on why I can't be dating. I've never spent a second on any dating website or Tinder other than my run as the resERECTION on Christian Mingle. I have now joined OK Cupid. God help us all.
I hope we match
We had a fun night in chat once seeing how well we matched on okcupid. bacon and I weren't nearly as close as I thought we would be.
Also, billybaroo, I know it has a reputation but consider Tinder as well. I felt like I got too much information on okcupid and preferred the mystery of Tinder. Also, the lady has to like you back before you can message her (without paying), so it helps with the confidence going in.
We had a fun night in chat once seeing how well we matched on okcupid. bacon and I weren't nearly as close as I thought we would be.
Also, billybaroo, I know it has a reputation but consider Tinder as well. I felt like I got too much information on okcupid and preferred the mystery of Tinder. Also, the lady has to like you back before you can message her (without paying), so it helps with the confidence going in.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We had a fun night in chat once seeing how well we matched on okcupid. bacon and I weren't nearly as close as I thought we would be.
Also, billybaroo, I know it has a reputation but consider Tinder as well. I felt like I got too much information on okcupid and preferred the mystery of Tinder. Also, the lady has to like you back before you can message her (without paying), so it helps with the confidence going in.
g a b f r a b and I looked each other up on it once to see how well we matched - something in the mid 80s I think.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Joining an online dating site. Good idea? Bad idea? Recommendations? I'm not meeting any new people at this job and my stasis is really bumming me out. I just need to experience some different people. Even if your advice is to join an indoor soccer league, I'll take it. I realize you all know next-to-nothing about me, but I respect most of your opinions for some reason (in this thread specifically; don't get me started on the opinions of the dummies elsewhere).
I'd also investigate the casual encounters section on CL. It has a scuzzy reputation for a reason but there's also a decent amount of cute/interesting people on there. Post your own ad and see if you get any responses/ones that interest you. Some of my best/most interesting romantic encounters have been from CL. Also some of my worst. At the very least you'll get a laugh from some of the responses/the insane amount of "straight" dudes who want to blow you for money.
We had a fun night in chat once seeing how well we matched on okcupid. bacon and I weren't nearly as close as I thought we would be.
That was a fun night. I didn't match as well with anyone as I thought I would... I was in like the 70s with almost everyone. I was a 94 with someone I think, but I don't remember who.
Joining an online dating site. Good idea? Bad idea? Recommendations? I'm not meeting any new people at this job and my stasis is really bumming me out. I just need to experience some different people. Even if your advice is to join an indoor soccer league, I'll take it. I realize you all know next-to-nothing about me, but I respect most of your opinions for some reason (in this thread specifically; don't get me started on the opinions of the dummies elsewhere).
I'd also investigate the casual encounters section on CL. It has a scuzzy reputation for a reason but there's also a decent amount of cute/interesting people on there. Post your own ad and see if you get any responses/ones that interest you. Some of my best/most interesting romantic encounters have been from CL. Also some of my worst. At the very least you'll get a laugh from some of the responses/the insane amount of "straight" dudes who want to blow you for money.
I met my boyfriend from CL... not the from the casual encounters, but the strictly platonic section. We started as friends and it morphed in to a relationship. I've actually met several of my current friends from the strictly platonic section of CL. And some creepos.
billybaroo I'm also probably not drunk enough (or actually drunk at all) to post this but if I was single, I would snatch you up.
Thanks for all the responses everyone, I appreciate it! I'm gonna make an account right now. And to echo what several of you have said, while I'm not necessarily looking for anything in particular, I'm just jones-ing for some new experiences and meeting new people. I think this is a good way to open up.
I also realize that the indoor soccer comment was far too specific to not be rooted in reality. If anyone has any idea how to join such a thing, I'd absolutely love that.
Thanks for all the responses everyone, I appreciate it! I'm gonna make an account right now. And to echo what several of you have said, while I'm not necessarily looking for anything in particular, I'm just jones-ing for some new experiences and meeting new people. I think this is a good way to open up.
I also realize that the indoor soccer comment was far too specific to not be rooted in reality. If anyone has any idea how to join such a thing, I'd absolutely love that.
You have already been given lots of great advice in this thread. I'd add a couple things.
On OK Cupid, don't get carried away with the questions. Answer maybe 100 of them and only things that are really important. A good match for you doesn't mean you will sync up on silly questions like doing dishes or if you prefer stick shift to automatic but they can lower your match % points.
Also, meet as many people as possible. Start off with a coffee date so you can dip if it doesn't work or suggest going somewhere else if it does. It makes a better use of your time, and theirs. It also gives a point where you can say, "Hey, I enjoy this conversation. Are you having fun? Want to continue?" or where either of you can make a graceful exit. Give an idea of your personality in your bios but keep it positive. A lot of "don't message me if _____" is super off putting. Have fun! I've had a great experience with Tinder and OkCupid!
Thanks for all the responses everyone, I appreciate it! I'm gonna make an account right now. And to echo what several of you have said, while I'm not necessarily looking for anything in particular, I'm just jones-ing for some new experiences and meeting new people. I think this is a good way to open up.
I also realize that the indoor soccer comment was far too specific to not be rooted in reality. If anyone has any idea how to join such a thing, I'd absolutely love that.
You have already been given lots of great advice in this thread. I'd add a couple things.
On OK Cupid, don't get carried away with the questions. Answer maybe 100 of them and only things that are really important. A good match for you doesn't mean you will sync up on silly questions like doing dishes or if you prefer stick shift to automatic but they can lower your match % points.
Also, meet as many people as possible. Start off with a coffee date so you can dip if it doesn't work or suggest going somewhere else if it does. It makes a better use of your time, and theirs. It also gives a point where you can say, "Hey, I enjoy this conversation. Are you having fun? Want to continue?" or where either of you can make a graceful exit. Give an idea of your personality in your bios but keep it positive. A lot of "don't message me if _____" is super off putting. Have fun! I've had a great experience with Tinder and OkCupid!
Another solid few pieces of advice. I'm only trying to do what is important, case in point: I'm taking this choosing a username thing way too seriously. I've only created usernames for inconsequential shit and the pressure is too much. Nicolas Decaanter would be so fucking confusing. That's not even my first name..
edit. my username for almost everything is either evanobreezy or evanobrien711, if that's any indication of how much thought I don't put into usernames.
We had a fun night in chat once seeing how well we matched on okcupid. bacon and I weren't nearly as close as I thought we would be.
Also, billybaroo, I know it has a reputation but consider Tinder as well. I felt like I got too much information on okcupid and preferred the mystery of Tinder. Also, the lady has to like you back before you can message her (without paying), so it helps with the confidence going in.
Confidence isn't the problem, it was deciding that getting shitty at bars and just awkwardly yelling "you're so drink, can I buy you a pretty?" just wasn't working out as well as it used to.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Post by potentpotables on Jan 18, 2016 20:33:48 GMT -5
Going through a dating phase again, started on Bumble. This first woman I'm talking to is kinda smothering already. I'm getting older and probably more set in my ways, so I'm trying to be open minded here, but I don't want to be texting someone I've never met all hours of the day - I can't stand to text friends that often. Going for Thai food tomorrow night, so at least that's there, but my expectations are low otherwise.
Going through a dating phase again, started on Bumble. This first woman I'm talking to is kinda smothering already. I'm getting older and probably more set in my ways, so I'm trying to be open minded here, but I don't want to be texting someone I've never met all hours of the day - I can't stand to text friends that often. Going for Thai food tomorrow night, so at least that's there, but my expectations are low otherwise.
Sometimes this can be worked through with a conversation about expectations of communication to find a compromise - that is, if you really click in other ways.
But other times...this is an indicator that you guys might not be very compatible. Idk, I'm with you - texting all day every day to whoever I'm dating is not my thing anymore. In college that held a certain appeal, but now? God no I need my space, and neediness is a huge turn off.
Go in with an open mind and attitude to the date, but if things do go well yet she's still wanting to talk incessantly, I suggest having a talk sooner rather than later about your divergent perspective on amount of talking in a day to day fashion.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.