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Sorry guys... I know this topic has been belabored to death, and I'm sure will be relocated at some point, but I just wanted to triple check with my situation considering I'm a meticulous freak here.... Having said that, here are my thoughts and plans for dealing with dry ice, and a few questions as well:
My plan is to by about enough dry ice to coat about 3 inches of the bottom of a large Coleman cooler. I'm not sure on lbs here but if someone could give me a ballpark for one cooler it would be much appreciated. I plan on using block as that seems to be the easiest route. As far as covering it, I've heard some say to leave it in the packaging it comes in, others I've heard newspaper, some plastic trash bags..... What would be the best option here? My plan is to freeze a good amount of frozen water bottles before I leave, coat the bottom with dry ice (covered) and then place frozen water bottles over the top. This cooler will serve as the frozen storage area mainly for water bottles. For my second cooler, we weren't really planning on bringing much to keep frozen or cold besides a few beers and maybe some lunch meat... so would I be able to transfer about 12 frozen water bottles over to my other cooler to use as ice for a few things? As I transfer over frozen water bottles, would I be able to put in non frozen bottles in the dry ice cooler and have those freeze in the meantime? I'm basically planning on using frozen water bottles from my dry ice cooler as well... Ice in the other cooler. Will this work?
Also, is there any reason to worry about ventilation? I'm planning on having the dry ice in a cooler with frozen water bottles shut nearly the entire time inside my trunk. What precautionary measures should be taken with this setup? I also understand not to handle with bare hands and not to drink anything right out of the dry ice cooler and not to open it often and not breathe inside the cooler. Anything I'm missing here? Is this on point?
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Leave it in the original wrapper. Put an old towel on top. Then put your frozen water bottles on top of the towel. Then another towel on top. Open as little as possible.
I transfer some of the bottles to my regular cooler for defrosting. Or take a few frozen ones with me to Centeroo.
I still have frozen water on Sunday. No need to ventilate.
Post by mizvalentine on Feb 26, 2013 12:25:37 GMT -5
Hey I have a follow-on question about ventilation. In 2011, I spent WAY too much energy, time and money replenishing ice, so I really want to do dry ice this year. However, I have a van, not a car with a separate trunk. I'm coming from Pittsburgh which is a 9-ish hour drive. I keep going back and forth on whether I should buy dry ice in the Burgh (probably cheaper and easier logistically...) or wait and get it in Tennessee... my worry is that I'll be in the van with the cooler full of dry ice emitting CO for 9 hours plus however long the wait in line is. Only the front windows of the van roll down, though the back windows do vent (but not much). I'm thinking the safest thing is to buy in the Burgh and drive down with the windows open but man, that's gonna suck I think. Anybody else have some alternative notion that I'm not seeing?
last year, i had five pounds of dry ice on the bottom of a good sized color. On top of that i had around 15-20 frozen water bottles, and a little bit of store bought ice. Stuff stayed cold until late on Sunday. Something else, keep it under a canopy if you can, letting sunlight directly hit a cooler is gonna put more strain on the ice.
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Hey I have a follow-on question about ventilation. In 2011, I spent WAY too much energy, time and money replenishing ice, so I really want to do dry ice this year. However, I have a van, not a car with a separate trunk. I'm coming from Pittsburgh which is a 9-ish hour drive. I keep going back and forth on whether I should buy dry ice in the Burgh (probably cheaper and easier logistically...) or wait and get it in Tennessee... my worry is that I'll be in the van with the cooler full of dry ice emitting CO for 9 hours plus however long the wait in line is. Only the front windows of the van roll down, though the back windows do vent (but not much). I'm thinking the safest thing is to buy in the Burgh and drive down with the windows open but man, that's gonna suck I think. Anybody else have some alternative notion that I'm not seeing?
Unless you're talking about having like 7 coolers completely full of dry ice, you will be fine
Hey I have a follow-on question about ventilation. In 2011, I spent WAY too much energy, time and money replenishing ice, so I really want to do dry ice this year. However, I have a van, not a car with a separate trunk. I'm coming from Pittsburgh which is a 9-ish hour drive. I keep going back and forth on whether I should buy dry ice in the Burgh (probably cheaper and easier logistically...) or wait and get it in Tennessee... my worry is that I'll be in the van with the cooler full of dry ice emitting CO for 9 hours plus however long the wait in line is. Only the front windows of the van roll down, though the back windows do vent (but not much). I'm thinking the safest thing is to buy in the Burgh and drive down with the windows open but man, that's gonna suck I think. Anybody else have some alternative notion that I'm not seeing?
We do the family minivan and actually split the trip in two and you're fine with it. Just keep the cooler closed.
After having tried both the dry ice and the water ice methods, we quit using dry ice because it didn't seem worth the incremental hassle.
At first we were paying $20 for dry ice and using it to keep a cooler of frozen bottles frozen…which kept us in ice from Thursday AM to Saturday PM or Sunday AM…but then one year we took two coolers of frozen bottles and noticed that the frozen bottles kept just fine until Saturday morning on their own. So we started buying one bag of ice (for something like $6 or $8) on Saturday and one on Sunday. One less pre-festival errand to run, but admittedly a couple more to run during Roo itself. But we've never been too far from an ice trailer, so it wasn't a big deal.
Hey I have a follow-on question about ventilation. In 2011, I spent WAY too much energy, time and money replenishing ice, so I really want to do dry ice this year. However, I have a van, not a car with a separate trunk. I'm coming from Pittsburgh which is a 9-ish hour drive. I keep going back and forth on whether I should buy dry ice in the Burgh (probably cheaper and easier logistically...) or wait and get it in Tennessee... my worry is that I'll be in the van with the cooler full of dry ice emitting CO for 9 hours plus however long the wait in line is. Only the front windows of the van roll down, though the back windows do vent (but not much). I'm thinking the safest thing is to buy in the Burgh and drive down with the windows open but man, that's gonna suck I think. Anybody else have some alternative notion that I'm not seeing?
We do the family minivan and actually split the trip in two and you're fine with it. Just keep the cooler closed.
Maybe it's because we have used about 40 lbs of dry ice to keep popsicles frozen, but if we didn't vent using the drain spout the pressure would build up fairly quickly.
Maybe it's because we have used about 40 lbs of dry ice to keep popsicles frozen, but if we didn't vent using the drain spout the pressure would build up fairly quickly.
SO I am coming from western NY, we don't want to freeze water bottles because then were carrying water 800 miles to Roo and figured we would just stop when we were getting close. Does any one have a suggestion on buying dry ice on their way south? Also because we are leaving Tuesday night and everyone I'm going with is working Tuesday, getting it ahead of time and bringing it with us isn't such a great option.
SO I am coming from western NY, we don't want to freeze water bottles because then were carrying water 800 miles to Roo and figured we would just stop when we were getting close. Does any one have a suggestion on buying dry ice on their way south? Also because we are leaving Tuesday night and everyone I'm going with is working Tuesday, getting it ahead of time and bringing it with us isn't such a great option.
Pick a spot, find a location, and biggest thing- call ahead of time to make sure they will have some waiting for you. Some locations are only available on request.
Here's my experience. Every year for last 5 my group has used dry ice and I'm a firm believer that it was one of the best decisions we made. We come from Pittsburgh and always have the coolers in the back of our SUV and we've never gotten sick and nobody has ever died from the gas release in the vehicle
We typically buy 30 lbs of dry ice per large cooler. We buy pellets which they just throw in a cardboard box for us. In Pittsburgh last year 30 lbs cost us $40. The more you buy, the cheaper they will usually sell it for. We lay it in the bottom of the cooler and put an old towel over it as a barrier. Any water (or anything for that matter) that is put in that cooler, certainly in contact with the towel and close to the bottom, will freeze. We alternate the frozen water to smaller collapsible coolers throughout the wknd to use as ice or drinking. We just replace the water bottles in the cooler as we take them out. As long as you aren't opening and closing the cooler constantly, the 30 lbs should be sufficient if you have a good, air tight cooler.
DO NOT touch the dry ice . For some fun, go ahead and put a piece of it in one of your drinks but be sure to not let it touch your skin (or lips if you then drink your beverage!).
Another dry ice tip. If using large blocks in a lower-end or older cooler put something between the dry ice and bottom of the cooler. It can freeze thinner plastic making it fragile enough to bust once you start throwing in bottles of frozen water ect. if your not careful.
Also, always put the dry ice on the bottom. Only put something under dry ice that you want to keep extremely frozen like ice cream or popsicles (I recommend the Fla-vor-ice pops). If you put it above beer in cans or some plastic bottles they will bust.
I wouldn't recommend the disposables for long term (bonnaroo) as they don't seal up well. The more hot air exposure the faster Sublimation happens so your ice will not last as long.
Post by kysteelerja on May 23, 2013 12:52:41 GMT -5
We also plan to take dry ice...this is our first trip and first time using dry ice...we have a styrofoam that we found in the garage that was used years ago to transport fresh seafood. it is quite a substantial cooler. we plan to put the dry ice in that cooler and use it to keep the water bottles frozen along with muliple sizes of ziplock bags i filled with water and put in our deep freeze. thought they would take up less space and be refreezable...so we won't have to spend a fortune on ice....cuz us old farts need to save our money for the taxi rides to and from Centerloo!!
So, I'm totally a dry ice noob, but it seems like a good option for Bonnaroo! Can you only keep liquids cold with dry ice, I'm planning on bringing two coolers (one for food, one for drinks)... should I get regular ice for the food cooler?
So, I'm totally a dry ice noob, but it seems like a good option for Bonnaroo! Can you only keep liquids cold with dry ice, I'm planning on bringing two coolers (one for food, one for drinks)... should I get regular ice for the food cooler?
Any non-sealed food you place in with dry ice in a cooler will become carbonated. It is kinda awesome with fruit but weird with things like bread, cookies, ect.
Post by canexplain on May 23, 2013 13:35:47 GMT -5
It isn't vital at the Roo, but put your cooler on something and not on the ground itself. You should do this too your air mattress also, but it's a bit more difficult. That's one point in the cot vs air mattress war; The cot wins... cr****
The usual site most festival peeps go to I think for basic dry ice questions:
