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I'd def like to see Mike D in the runoff as a quieter person. I have NEVER seen Mike D be this quiet in a game, as well as not offer up detailed townie strategy in his posts.
Post by abrakapokus on Dec 2, 2012 17:09:28 GMT -5
Phi why would I whack LLL if I were mafia? WHY? She made no hints to being inspector unless she pointed out a mafia as suspicious. LLL questioned at why you would want to straight vote me off on day one. If I were mafia she would be one of the last on my list to whack. Reading back over the game, I believe it's some of these people: Zen, Phi, or Moose.
Mafia will also vote off a player in order to cast suspicion on another player which is what they could be doing trying to get a group that already had an eye on Moose to look at him more closely.
mafia would have had NO CHOICE but to put all 3 votes on me in order to save their own.
It would be a horrible game play. It would, as you've pointed out, be easy to pick out the team.
I would love to hear the rest of the villagers opinion on if all 3 mafia would be on same target.
It's happened before.
From a theory standpoint, once this type of thinking becomes the norm, then it no longer applies. To keep believing it is level-0 thinking. Mafia can easily apply level-2 thinking.
I just assumed Abra would come out firing at me. If abra doesnt trade votes with me then I would def be open to changing my vote to someone else. At this point its hard for me to put heat on moose becasue he didnt vote for me last round. And I'm pretty confident Roo was mafia at this point and there is no way mafia would just let one of their own get voted off in round 1 if they could help it.
Also, I'd like to add that lets not turn this into another Phi vrs. Abra round. We need different players in the hot seat to get more information.
Who do you want to see then? If we don't include them, then I would be down for putting in a bunch of quiet people. It seems like Mike D, zen, Sarah are being pretty quiet. I would still like to include 1 controlling player though, whether that's moose, abro, phi, I don't care.
Post by abrakapokus on Dec 2, 2012 17:23:11 GMT -5
I'm not trying to trade votes with you, Phi or go after you hardcore. To begin with, I was trying to get people to start talking. You have always been loud in the games I've played. But then you seemed to take it to heart, going after me with no evidence and then moose started calling for me to be lynched and backing you. It was the only link I saw out of what we had. I would like to see a different group of people put on the hot seat this round and see what comes of it. It seems to be only us talkers plus one quiet one who are even considered. By pointing fingers I'm getting votes tossed back at me for no other reason.
If roo was mafia does that not basically clear me?
Why would that be? You just stated you believed mafia would never all vote together. Though I disagree, there is some chance of either being true in this instance.
Also, I'd like to add that lets not turn this into another Phi vrs. Abra round. We need different players in the hot seat to get more information.
Who do you want to see then? If we don't include them, then I would be down for putting in a bunch of quiet people. It seems like Mike D, zen, Sarah are being pretty quiet. I would still like to include 1 controlling player though, whether that's moose, abro, phi, I don't care.
Haha just noticed this, how did I become Abro? I'm off to get a plaid hat now btw.
Who do you want to see then? If we don't include them, then I would be down for putting in a bunch of quiet people. It seems like Mike D, zen, Sarah are being pretty quiet. I would still like to include 1 controlling player though, whether that's moose, abro, phi, I don't care.
Haha just noticed this, how did I become Abro? I'm off to get a plaid hat now btw.
It was originally a typo, then I decided it was pretty funny, at least to me, so I kept using it haha.
Edit: Noooo, I hate diddly swag, please give lots of dunzo, though. I am trying to win the negative awesome points game.
If roo was mafia does that not basically clear me?
Why would that be? You just stated you believed mafia would never all vote together. Though I disagree, there is some chance of either being true in this instance.
Just thinking since I had the deciding vote and I was mafia I wouldnt vote a mafia member instead of a townie.....
I do not think she was inspector. Not sure why. Just a gut feeling.
Well, at this point, it doesn't really matter if we think she is inspector, as much as why the mafia did.
First, look at the biggest factor. She influenced opinions and votes enough to take a player with zero votes and not only get him into the runoff but get him voted off. That must have been a HUGE red flag to the mafia.
In addition to this, the Inspector gets a guess in. They have one Mafia name already given to them. They are usually trying to hint at or sway voting.......
Why would that be? You just stated you believed mafia would never all vote together. Though I disagree, there is some chance of either being true in this instance.
Just thinking since I had the deciding vote and I was mafia I wouldnt vote a mafia member instead of a townie.....
Also, I'd like to add that lets not turn this into another Phi vrs. Abra round. We need different players in the hot seat to get more information.
Who do you want to see then? If we don't include them, then I would be down for putting in a bunch of quiet people. It seems like Mike D, zen, Sarah are being pretty quiet. I would still like to include 1 controlling player though, whether that's moose, abro, phi, I don't care.
I'm still digesting the whack and looking at the vote patterns. Part of me thinks Mike or Sarah would be a good way to go. Zen I'm not sure about. Her vote for Roo came at a strange time for it to be distancing.
I just don't know what to think. I've been tempted to switch my vote. It seems like someone would have saved Roo by now if he was mafia. But Roo is making it tough to like him as usual, because he won't say a gd thing. It seems like in games past he has pleaded when he was on the chopping board and town.
I'm not convinced that roo is mafia. I'm not convinced that Phi is either, but he is more suspicious because of his nervousness and defensiveness.
I feel there's been a lack of the usual vote switches that usually take place in run-offs. Makes me think the mafia feel like they're very in control. Not good
This to me seems like she was getting me to switch. Didn't mean much until the whack and everything since then. I feel pretty confident now that LLL was inspector and she got her man in Roo. Pre-whack she posted:
Sarah said that she was going out of town and that's why she's quiet. Not sure whats up with Mike D though, his relative silence seems out of character>
I want to see LD in a runoff. I know that will throw another vote on me because ppl only want to trade votes instead of actually try to find out who's mafia but so be it.
Something about Sarah's first round reason for wanting me in a runoff didn't set well with me. And she was one of the only ones to try and push towards Phi over Roo...
ALSO, I've never seen her make an angry post in this game. Her reaction to Moose not understanding the rules and voting Roo seemed like frustration. BUT maybe mafia frustration for things not going the way they needed.
