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You know, the scam-potential in corn-dealing is both complex and infinite, and given the easy access to false $$$ across the Silk Road these days, I was curious to know--especially from vendors, but also from regular civilian-type people--whether any of you have had trouble with counterfeit bills getting passed to you. Just curious. Think about it: somebody selling bunko corn is probably not adverse to making bunko change, either.
This is a huge potential problem and one I had not even considered before now. I have gotten burned before at bonnaroo nott with bad bills or corn but other things. I don't know how you control it but with the money marking pen. If you are selling or buying and need change bring a pen to check your bills. Is the only way to be sure. You just blew my mind grateful Ed!
This is a huge potential problem and one I had not even considered before now. I have gotten burned before at bonnaroo nott with bad bills or corn but other things. I don't know how you control it but with the money marking pen. If you are selling or buying and need change bring a pen to check your bills. Is the only way to be sure. You just blew my mind grateful Ed!
I have seen multiple vendors pen and do the ID bar test. Remember they are on 20's as well. It might be a hand to hand issue, but overall most vendors (esp. if you are doing a 50+ transaction) know what's up
Post by postreznorjack on Mar 9, 2013 14:19:52 GMT -5
The only counterfeits that are hard to distinguish are washed bills, like when they wash a 5 and reprint 100 over it. And these will also pass the pen test.
The best anti fraud mechanism of us currency is the feel of the money, if it's not legal tender it will immediately feel weird. So listen to your gut when you touch that bill and you'll know.
The only counterfeits that are hard to distinguish are washed bills, like when they wash a 5 and reprint 100 over it. And these will also pass the pen test.
The best anti fraud mechanism of us currency is the feel of the money, if it's not legal tender it will immediately feel weird. So listen to your gut when you touch that bill and you'll know.
I sort of agree and only "sort" because at the bank I got $20 in $1 bills and they were all new and sequential (so I saved them). They didn't have that normal feel, but it was a bank ya know ......
This is a huge potential problem and one I had not even considered before now. I have gotten burned before at bonnaroo nott with bad bills or corn but other things. I don't know how you control it but with the money marking pen. If you are selling or buying and need change bring a pen to check your bills. Is the only way to be sure. You just blew my mind grateful Ed!
What'll really blow your mind...something I've often wondered about...is the existence of a counterfeit counterfeit detector pen, one that creates that distinctive starch-stain on genuine bills. Picture it: your liquor store clerk whips out with one of these little babies and scribbles on the genuine $20 you just handed him, and says, "Sorry, this bill's bogus. See? These pens don't mark on real money. Sorry, you can't have it back…I have to turn it in." And there you are, out $20, and there he is, up $20.
This is a huge potential problem and one I had not even considered before now. I have gotten burned before at bonnaroo nott with bad bills or corn but other things. I don't know how you control it but with the money marking pen. If you are selling or buying and need change bring a pen to check your bills. Is the only way to be sure. You just blew my mind grateful Ed!
What'll really blow your mind...something I've often wondered about...is the existence of a counterfeit counterfeit detector pen, one that creates that distinctive starch-stain on genuine bills. Picture it: your liquor store clerk whips out with one of these little babies and scribbles on the genuine $20 you just handed him, and says, "Sorry, this bill's bogus. See? These pens don't mark on real money. Sorry, you can't have it back…I have to turn it in." And there you are, out $20, and there he is, up $20.
Potentially a nasty, nasty little scam.
What a mind you have!! It's a bit like that commercial where the dude has on a ski mask, walks into a 7-11 like place, the guy tries to give him the stuff he picked out. Well you could try that and if you got caught just say "Hey, I am such a jerk, look at my skis." Ok so all's you would get is a drink and some munchies ...... and the work would only be seasonal ....
Hand-to-hand is where I was seeing the greatest scam potential. I'd say the bulk of Roo-goers aren't particularly street-smart. See the "know your bros" thread, elsewhere.
And the fun doesn't even end there. Say you're brash enough to try to buy corn with counterfeit 20s and your dealer whips out with a detector pen and proves them false. If he knows what he's doing he's still going to accept them from you, assuming they're of decent quality, just not for face value…and then he'll fob them off on someone else later, for face.
Why I'm bringing this up right now is that I'm working on a novel, a murder mystery set at a rock festival, and all this is a plot point.
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Hand-to-hand is where I was seeing the greatest scam potential. I'd say the bulk of Roo-goers aren't particularly street-smart. See the "know your bros" thread, elsewhere.
And the fun doesn't even end there. Say you're brash enough to try to buy corn with counterfeit 20s and your dealer whips out with a detector pen and proves them false. If he knows what he's doing he's still going to accept them from you, assuming they're of decent quality, just not for face value…and then he'll fob them off on someone else later, for face.
Why I'm bringing this up right now is that I'm working on a novel, a murder mystery set at a rock festival, and all this is a plot point.
I basically know what that means but wiki expands it more than i knew anyway .....
Noted screenwriting teacher Syd Field teaches that the 'ideal' movie plot has the first plot point occurring around the 30th minute of the film. Others say that two plot points define the three acts of a movie, and that, if this is a 120 min one, those plot points must be located around the 30th minute and the 90th minute.
Post by gardenfresh on Mar 9, 2013 18:11:03 GMT -5
Drawing from my four years restaurant cashiering and four years experience as a neighborhood grocer...
Those pens suck and are a waste of time! Just take a good look at the bill. The front should be in black ink, the back should be in green ink. Most importantly, it should have a grainy feeling when you rub your thumb or finger over it. It should feel as if the printing has caused the images and text to be "raised". If it feels just like plain paper, then you have problems. The real printing of money should always leave a grainy texture.
I've seen many fake bills in my day. Some good ones too! I've seen fakes with watermarks, the little stripe in the middle, and one's that passed the "pen test". But whoever said "use your common sense" is right. Just rub your thumb on it, and you should know in seconds.
You know, the scam-potential in corn-dealing is both complex and infinite, and given the easy access to false $$$ across the Silk Road these days
Ah the Silk Road of onionland! It's like the deep web version of Mos Eisley. You might want to check out Black Market Reloaded, it where all the cool kids are hanging out (and doing really shady shit) now.
I too have never given any thought to picking up bunk currency at Roo. Then again I'm pretty much self contained at festivals, food, drinks and merch are all I tend to buy or need to.
Post by memphis1979 on Mar 9, 2013 21:31:47 GMT -5
Just look at the water mark. Its next to impossible to fake. If you give a good look at the 20s and 50s, and they can fool you, most likely they'll fool a cashier. Besides, most stories I've heard about people inadvertently passing on a counterfeit bill they got somewhere else, there are no legal ramifications, just you're out of 20 or 50 bucks.
In six 'Roos this has not been an issue fer me. And also havin' been in the service industry fer some 14 years now I've thankfully never encountered this issue.
