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Post by mizvalentine on Mar 18, 2013 14:33:46 GMT -5
Or to put it another way... if you had your choice, absent of practical concerns like 'it doesn't make enough money', what would you do for a living? It could be what you do now, or not. If you already work at the thing you'd choose, I'd love to know how you got there.
I am trying to give this real thought. Its been harder than expected to open my mind up to the possibilities. I've always worked hard at whatever was put in front of me, never what I 'wanted' to do. What I 'wanted' to do, was what I did after all that other stuff got finished (maybe, if I had the energy).
So now, I'm trying to think about what I would do if I could change it all--not tomorrow, but say in 5-10 years. It would be something outdoors, something NOT involving the internet, and preferably something that combines travel, food, art and music. A friend and my BF have both separately suggested something along the lines of, "You need to start a paleo food truck and take it to music festivals all summer." I laughed, but now that I think about it... that might be awesome.
Post by nickwilson on Mar 18, 2013 14:39:50 GMT -5
I'll honestly play and do some sort of work with music my whole life. If good fortune comes my way then great. If not, then I'm still perfectly fine writing and playing on not a lot of cash as well. I just love the whole creation and art of music. Money is nice, but I can't say it's ever been a factor in my song writing. Like, I've never thought to myself, "Hey! This song would totally be popular and make some money!" haha. I currently manage a cinema. It pays the bills while recording my bands EP.
Post by lukescrazyarms on Mar 18, 2013 15:24:14 GMT -5
I manage a music store and teach drum lessons part time, occasionally gigging on weekends. I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy this store when I'm older, and I'm completely OK with that
All my life I wanted to be a doctor. Was pre-med until I got mono in college & had to drop some classes. Really wish I had stayed with it. I do marketing now for an engineering firm and am quite happy with it.
I manage a music store and teach drum lessons part time, occasionally gigging on weekends. I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy this store when I'm older, and I'm completely OK with that
Ha! Your job is surprisingly close to my guy's job (down to the drum lessons). Its a good gig. I always wanted to teach music lessons but my lack of technical training has held me back.
I'll honestly play and do some sort of work with music my whole life. If good fortune comes my way then great. If not, then I'm still perfectly fine writing and playing on not a lot of cash as well. I just love the whole creation and art of music. Money is nice, but I can't say it's ever been a factor in my song writing. Like, I've never thought to myself, "Hey! This song would totally be popular and make some money!" haha. I currently manage a cinema. It pays the bills while recording my bands EP.
I'm with you on this. I've unfortunately let consulting get in the way of my music for about 10 months. I think I got sucked into the wedding/function gig grind before that and it burnt me the hell out... then I was like, screw music, I just want to make a boatload of money! Turns out I don't want to consult or do weddings. I wanna do music, which is different
I'll honestly play and do some sort of work with music my whole life. If good fortune comes my way then great. If not, then I'm still perfectly fine writing and playing on not a lot of cash as well. I just love the whole creation and art of music. Money is nice, but I can't say it's ever been a factor in my song writing. Like, I've never thought to myself, "Hey! This song would totally be popular and make some money!" haha. I currently manage a cinema. It pays the bills while recording my bands EP.
I'm with you on this. I've unfortunately let consulting get in the way of my music for about 10 months. I think I got sucked into the wedding/function gig grind before that and it burnt me the hell out... then I was like, screw music, I just want to make a boatload of money! Turns out I don't want to consult or do weddings. I wanna do music, which is different
I had a friend in college who was a photographer on the side. He always said he liked the money associated with shooting weddings but felt a little bit of his soul died every time he did one.
From like third grade on I wanted to be a writer and I am, which is nice.
My 12 year old is writing a book, he's actually about 60 pages in. I'm not much of a writer though I am a reader. Any advice to encourage him?
Cool. Good for him, and for you. This hits close to home.
What he's attempting is very hard. Writing long-form fiction is fun but actually finishing a project takes a hell of a lot of sticktuitiveness, to a degree I wouldn't expect your average twelve year-old boy to have. Obviously I don't know whether that's true for your son - at sixty pages he's already accomplished a lot - but I'd say check in every few days, be supportive and actively interested without nagging, listen to his ideas when you're asked to, read his pages when he wants, and leave him alone when he needs space (including being patient if he neglects his chores to write.) He may walk away from it for a few days or a few weeks or forever; don't act like you're disappointed. It may just be that he's discouraged by the sheer scale of the thing. If he really wants to write he'll eventually start something else, and he'll have learned a lot from his first attempt even if he fails to "finish" it. So it's not wasted effort.
How's his relationship with his English teacher? If she's at all enlightened, she could be a major source of help and inspiration. My eighth-grade English teacher was certainly that to me, so when I finally sold my first novel I did some detective work and found her and invited her to a local book signing. It was wonderful seeing her again -- it put tears in both our eyes. All four of our eyes…whatever. Conversely, if his English teacher is an idiot you need to make sure he/she doesn't put your son off writing forever.
Also, get him into contact with other writers, professionals who can encourage him. Even if they're not, quote, famous, they'll still inspire him. I don't know where you live but there are probably book signings going on at least close by…many have Q&A sessions. There are writers' guilds, etc. Libraries often have special events. Homeschool associations, likewise.
Lastly, in my experience there's some dangerous territory here in that with the onset of puberty can come anxiety/inferiority/bullying/etc., so make sure he's not writing to compensate for negative feelings from a desire to be rich, famous, to "show them," or to otherwise prove himself. This attitude can be poisonous -- you don't want him beating himself up in his middle age because he's not John Grisham. Don't ask me how I know this.
Ed - Thanks for the thoughtful response. Anxiety has been my sons middle name for years so it's definitely something we watch for. With a little editing I sent him a copy of your response, thought he might like to hear it from a writer instead of his mom. Would I know any of your work?
Ed - Thanks for the thoughtful response. Anxiety has been my sons middle name for years so it's definitely something we watch for. With a little editing I sent him a copy of your response, thought he might like to hear it from a writer instead of his mom. Would I know any of your work?
Sure thing. Again, good on you...I wish I'd gotten more encouragement from my parents when I was your son's age. Incidentally, what did you edit in my post? Just curious.
One thing you might want to pass along to your son is that on my website there's a basic course in long-form fiction that I wrote for a local homeschool group several years ago. The technology I describe is now badly dated, as is my description of the book market and how to get published, but the sections on the craft itself are still pretty current, I think.
I'm actually quite happy with the general track of my career. I LOVE working on a college campus. I am not a fan of Admissions though- it can be quite depressing. My ideal position would under the student affairs umbrella- Study abroad, student activities, etc.. If I were to choose a career- I would love to do Samantha Brown's Passport show (does that still exist)? I don't really like her that much and I find the show boring- but I love that she travels, sees, eats... Now I guess my only issue with that would be that I wouldn't want to be famous...
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I think I'd love to be involved in the administration side of music. i.e. working for AC Entertainment or the like. I'm crazy good at planning and being bossy (in a quality, non-demeaning fashion). I could absolutely be one of those behind the scenes people who's actually planning who goes where and when at festivals. Similarly and less musically inclined - i've said to my sister on more than one occasion, I could definitely be someone's personal assistant. The only problem with that is the time required to "assist"... I dont want to give up my weekends to someone else's life. But I'd LOVE to do it for music. Im not opposed to weird hours and non-M-F weeks if it's for a greater EVENT. All that to say... Event planning??... I could admin the hell out of anything.
If semi-attainable wasn't a factor - I'd hang out with Big Cats. NOT be a vet, but you know, be the one who like, raises the babies until their too big to be safe anymore. And you know, pets the giant lions when the vet puts them out for medicals stuff. ...Big Cat Comforter? Yessssss.
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Ed - Thanks for the thoughtful response. Anxiety has been my sons middle name for years so it's definitely something we watch for. With a little editing I sent him a copy of your response, thought he might like to hear it from a writer instead of his mom. Would I know any of your work?
Sure thing. Again, good on you...I wish I'd gotten more encouragement from my parents when I was your son's age. Incidentally, what did you edit in my post? Just curious.
One thing you might want to pass along to your son is that on my website there's a basic course in long-form fiction that I wrote for a local homeschool group several years ago. The technology I describe is now badly dated, as is my description of the book market and how to get published, but the sections on the craft itself are still pretty current, I think.
I thought about editing the part about puberty, anxiety, getting back etc but he's a smart kid and we've discussed bullying (at length many times) so I decided to leave it in. I'll be interested to see if he talks to me about the e-mail at all.
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This is something I've seriously thought about too. For me, it would be more of a bakery/cafe/diner type deal where I could make cupcakes and Josh could make chili. We would have other things too because I'm pretty sure a cupcake and chili only restaurant would not be very successful, but you get the idea.
I actually really like my job now. I work for the court, so basically I read appeal records and make recommendations to the judges. As far as lawyering goes, it's a pretty sweet deal in that it is frequently very interesting work, I usually only work 40 hour weeks (I've worked maybe three weekends in the last three years), I get all the state holidays plus a couple weeks of leave a year (and it's not a problem if I actually use it), and I don't work with the public/clients at all. That said, if I could go back, I wouldn't go to law school again because I can't see myself doing anything other than a court job, so my options are somewhat limited.
If I were to choose a career- I would love to do Samantha Brown's Passport show (does that still exist)? I don't really like her that much and I find the show boring- but I love that she travels, sees, eats...
I'm thinking they booted her for Anthony Bourdain, which actually now that I think about it, is probably the only show I ever really watch on tv, ha. He is moving or has already moved to CNN though. Maybe she'll come back.
If I were to choose a career- I would love to do Samantha Brown's Passport show (does that still exist)? I don't really like her that much and I find the show boring- but I love that she travels, sees, eats...
I'm thinking they booted her for Anthony Bourdain, which actually now that I think about it, is probably the only show I ever really watch on tv, ha. He is moving or has already moved to CNN though. Maybe she'll come back.
Actually after I posted, I considered editing my post to contain "or other shows like Anthony Bourdain."
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I really wish I'd studied something I am interested in when I went to college. Instead, I studied Accounting because my family told me I would be good at it, and I thought it would make me successful. NOT. I graduated 6 years ago with a low GPA because I just was NOT interested in my major, stayed in a job that was comfortable in and familiar with while I started my family, and can't get a better job (in my actual field of study) because I don't have any experience. Buh.
I really wish I'd studied something I am interested in, like Astrophysics, History, Anthropology, Botany... I don't even care about the money factor; if I'm going to be poor, I wish I was at least doing something that I enjoy.
I'd also love to have my own cooking show, work in a greenhouse, or be a midwife.