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So I did a quick search which brought up nothing so feel free to direct this to an existing asthma related thread, but iv got a friend with pretty bad asthma. He went last year and made it back alive but were hoping to find a few new ways to ease the strain on his lungs this year. I know I'm hit with the bonnaflu for a few days post roo so I imagine it even worse for those who suffer from respiratory conditions.
Any other chronic asthma suffers have any tricks tips or techniques for easing the need for 1500 hits of the emergency inhaler on the farm?
I was thinking a moist bandana to try and keep as much dust out of the respiratory system as possible but I assume actual asthma suffers might have some more practical ideas considering a moist bandana is good for about 20 mins max.
Post by dreamingtree on May 13, 2013 14:16:10 GMT -5
I do not have chronic asthma, only mild, but I use a preventative inhaler and have Albuterol in case I need it. I do also have severe allergies which can trigger my asthma. I take Zyrtec every day. My friend who comes with me, is about the same. Neither of us have ever had any issues at Bonnaroo, even on dusty years.
I have heard that drinking a lot of water does help the body with respiration but I don't know if it's a myth - either way, I drink TONS of water there. I also do not go anywhere without my inhaler. I guess different things trigger different people, and maybe your friend's asthma is way worse, so I have no idea how it affects them.
Edit: I found this online about staying hydrated:
Dehydration produces a large amount of histamine, which creates back pain, inflamed joints, allergies and asthma. The lungs need water almost more than any other part of the body, when the body lacks sufficient water the lungs feel tight and sensitive.
When your lungs are dehydrated, the free passage of air is obstructed so that water does not leave the body in the form of vapor. If you simply increase your water intake this will help to actually prevent asthma attacks. If you or your loved one have ever experienced them you know just how frightening and horrible they can be. You will be delighted to find your symptoms decrease just from drinking 8 to 10 eight ounce glasses of pure water daily. However, doctors warn that being overly enthusiastic and drinking water in excess of this amount is not helpful. Keep in mind that Mom was right, it's wise to do all things in moderation. If you are like me and many others, we get too busy and forget or avoid drinking so we can limit restroom visits. But your health is much more important and it's a small price to pay. If your urine is not a very pale yellow, or even clear, you are not getting enough water (taking B-complex vitamins will result in bright yellow urine).
Post by lukescrazyarms on May 13, 2013 14:28:29 GMT -5
I've had it all my life. Its shitty and weird and was a HUGE concern the first time I went to Roo. Theres a couple of tricks that I have for at home but sometimes are hard to do at the farm. Ice is always a life saver for me. If he's really having an attack sometimes just sucking on an ice cube can really help. It relaxes the lungs (and the mind) and really just calms you down in general. You're 100% right with the bandana though. 2 years ago when it was super dusty i wore one like a face mask the entire time almost because breathing in all that dust can just be a total killer for your lungs. I'm not sure what kind of meds your friend is taking but theres a few that are strictly allergy related that he can try taking to (the big one I know of is called Cingular).
Overall though just make sure they have a fast acting inhaler. I normally bring 2 just in case. I didn't have to use it to much on the farm really but its always better to be safe then sorry. And like most people on here know, just have them pace themselves. Its a marathon not a sprint. Take it slow, drink lots of water, and just make sure they are doing the basic things that really everyone should be doing and they should be fine.
I've had it all my life. Its shizzy and weird and was a HUGE concern the first time I went to Roo. Theres a couple of tricks that I have for at home but sometimes are hard to do at the farm. Ice is always a life saver for me. If he's really having an attack sometimes just sucking on an ice cube can really help. It relaxes the lungs (and the mind) and really just calms you down in general. You're 100% right with the bandana though. 2 years ago when it was super dusty i wore one like a face mask the entire time almost because breathing in all that dust can just be a total killer for your lungs. I'm not sure what kind of meds your friend is taking but theres a few that are strictly allergy related that he can try taking to (the big one I know of is called Cingular).
Overall though just make sure they have a fast acting inhaler. I normally bring 2 just in case. I didn't have to use it to much on the farm really but its always better to be safe then sorry. And like most people on here know, just have them pace themselves. Its a marathon not a sprint. Take it slow, drink lots of water, and just make sure they are doing the basic things that really everyone should be doing and they should be fine.
Singulair*. And it works pretty good. I bring a couple of inhalers with me which I usually need to use a couple times a day at Roo because of the dust. If you have a bad attack the medical tents have the nebulizer breathing treatment machines that will get you feeling nice and jittery in no time. My friend had to use those just about every day last year and even left early because it was so bad for him. USE THE BANDANA FACE MASK!!!
This is great thank you all! I will show him what you said. I know he has a few inhalers and some steroids (nonbarrybonds). I know he drinks a lot of water and has googled the hell out of asthma.
I'll show him these responses and hopefully they help.
I've had it all my life. Its shizzy and weird and was a HUGE concern the first time I went to Roo. Theres a couple of tricks that I have for at home but sometimes are hard to do at the farm. Ice is always a life saver for me. If he's really having an attack sometimes just sucking on an ice cube can really help. It relaxes the lungs (and the mind) and really just calms you down in general. You're 100% right with the bandana though. 2 years ago when it was super dusty i wore one like a face mask the entire time almost because breathing in all that dust can just be a total killer for your lungs. I'm not sure what kind of meds your friend is taking but theres a few that are strictly allergy related that he can try taking to (the big one I know of is called Cingular).
Overall though just make sure they have a fast acting inhaler. I normally bring 2 just in case. I didn't have to use it to much on the farm really but its always better to be safe then sorry. And like most people on here know, just have them pace themselves. Its a marathon not a sprint. Take it slow, drink lots of water, and just make sure they are doing the basic things that really everyone should be doing and they should be fine.
Couldn't agree more with you here... I've suffered from horrible asthma attacks for as long as I can remember... and they are made all the worse by my allergies. But honestly, I've never had too bad of an issue at Bonnaroo. If I take meds for my allergies, bring an emergency inhalor, and drink plenty of cold water (that ice trick totally works amazingly)- I'm ok. Remember, if things get super bad, they do have plenty of medical staff on site. Also- since my childhood, I've made an herbal tea (my grandmother taught me this) that completely relieves my symptoms every time. Simply steep ginger root and cloves in hot water for about 5-8 minutes... I'll usually put a teaspoon amount of ginger root, and 2 teaspoons of dried cloves in a coffee filter, tie it shut, and let it steep. This cures my symptoms almost immediately. Also, I've heard that hot lemonade will have the same effect (and is much easier to come across at Roo).
Don't let the asthma ruin your Roo! Be smart about it, and you'll have a great time!
roonectar, or anyone with dust-trigger asthma: get a NIOSH 95 particulate filter like this one for attack prevention. I use them when I'm sanding. They work great.
Overall though just make sure they have a fast acting inhaler. I normally bring 2 just in case. I didn't have to use it to much on the farm really but its always better to be safe then sorry. And like most people on here know, just have them pace themselves. Its a marathon not a sprint. Take it slow, drink lots of water, and just make sure they are doing the basic things that really everyone should be doing and they should be fine.
Couldn't agree more with you here... I've suffered from horrible asthma attacks for as long as I can remember... and they are made all the worse by my allergies. But honestly, I've never had too bad of an issue at Bonnaroo. If I take meds for my allergies, bring an emergency inhalor, and drink plenty of cold water (that ice trick totally works amazingly)- I'm ok. Remember, if things get super bad, they do have plenty of medical staff on site. Also- since my childhood, I've made an herbal tea (my grandmother taught me this) that completely relieves my symptoms every time. Simply steep ginger root and cloves in hot water for about 5-8 minutes... I'll usually put a teaspoon amount of ginger root, and 2 teaspoons of dried cloves in a coffee filter, tie it shut, and let it steep. This cures my symptoms almost immediately. Also, I've heard that hot lemonade will have the same effect (and is much easier to come across at Roo).
Don't let the asthma ruin your Roo! Be smart about it, and you'll have a great time!
Definitely trying this tea next time I have a really bad attack. Thanks for the tip!
Jeez...it just occurred to me that decorated dust masks would be a slam dunk for vendors to sell on Shakedown. Glue little blinking LEDs all over them...rhinestones and glowsticks, or KEEP CALM AND MURDER WOOKS or whatever.
Couldn't agree more with you here... I've suffered from horrible asthma attacks for as long as I can remember... and they are made all the worse by my allergies. But honestly, I've never had too bad of an issue at Bonnaroo. If I take meds for my allergies, bring an emergency inhalor, and drink plenty of cold water (that ice trick totally works amazingly)- I'm ok. Remember, if things get super bad, they do have plenty of medical staff on site. Also- since my childhood, I've made an herbal tea (my grandmother taught me this) that completely relieves my symptoms every time. Simply steep ginger root and cloves in hot water for about 5-8 minutes... I'll usually put a teaspoon amount of ginger root, and 2 teaspoons of dried cloves in a coffee filter, tie it shut, and let it steep. This cures my symptoms almost immediately. Also, I've heard that hot lemonade will have the same effect (and is much easier to come across at Roo).
Don't let the asthma ruin your Roo! Be smart about it, and you'll have a great time!
Definitely trying this tea next time I have a really bad attack. Thanks for the tip!
No problem! I hate it for anyone who has trouble controlling their asthma. Also- the hotter you can stand to make it, the better it works, at least for me. Hope you have the same luck!
Definitely trying this tea next time I have a really bad attack. Thanks for the tip!
No problem! I hate it for anyone who has trouble controlling their asthma. Also- the hotter you can stand to make it, the better it works, at least for me. Hope you have the same luck!
Oddly, I always found that sweet tea helps me. But maybe that only works in the South...
But yeah, a quick acting inhaler is a good idea. I didn't have too much trouble last time I was there (only mild asthma) though smokers here and there had me reaching for the albuterol.
Seriously, if he can get to his doc and get on a preventative inhaler (typically used daily) - That has been the best thing for my asthma. Then take your usual allergy medication and bring a rescue inhaler just in case. I've also heard singular is good for allergies and asthma... though I had bothersome side effects with that so I stopped taking it.
I have my preventative inhaler, rescue inhaler, flonase, zyrtec, allergy eye drops, currently getting allergy shots... and the occasional ointment/cream for random allergic rashes. LIFE IS GREAT! I'm allergic to it all, had the scratch tests to prove it. Doesn't help me any that I live in TN, have 4 cats and a dog... oops!
Well, damn! Now my eyes itch!
** With that said, all 6 years of 'roo I've made it through without an asthma attack and just minimal allergies **
Mine isn't too bad and I've never really had too much of a problem while there, like you said it always comes afterwards. Last year I had a pretty an attack a few days after. I've basically come to terms with the fact there isn't too much I can do I just always carry my inhaler and don't hesitate to use it.
Seriously, if he can get to his doc and get on a preventative inhaler (typically used daily) - That has been the best thing for my asthma. Then take your usual allergy medication and bring a rescue inhaler just in case. I've also heard singular is good for allergies and asthma... though I had bothersome side effects with that so I stopped taking it.
I have my preventative inhaler, rescue inhaler, flonase, zyrtec, allergy eye drops, currently getting allergy shots... and the occasional ointment/cream for random allergic rashes. LIFE IS GREAT! I'm allergic to it all, had the scratch tests to prove it. Doesn't help me any that I live in TN, have 4 cats and a dog... oops!
Well, damn! Now my eyes itch!
** With that said, all 6 years of 'roo I've made it through without an asthma attack and just minimal allergies **
God i hated getting that as a kid....
Also doesn't help that I was a regular smoker for 10 years... not anymore though... this Roo I'm breathin easy.
I've had it all my life. Its shizzy and weird and was a HUGE concern the first time I went to Roo. Theres a couple of tricks that I have for at home but sometimes are hard to do at the farm. Ice is always a life saver for me. If he's really having an attack sometimes just sucking on an ice cube can really help. It relaxes the lungs (and the mind) and really just calms you down in general. You're 100% right with the bandana though. 2 years ago when it was super dusty i wore one like a face mask the entire time almost because breathing in all that dust can just be a total killer for your lungs. I'm not sure what kind of meds your friend is taking but theres a few that are strictly allergy related that he can try taking to (the big one I know of is called Cingular).
Overall though just make sure they have a fast acting inhaler. I normally bring 2 just in case. I didn't have to use it to much on the farm really but its always better to be safe then sorry. And like most people on here know, just have them pace themselves. Its a marathon not a sprint. Take it slow, drink lots of water, and just make sure they are doing the basic things that really everyone should be doing and they should be fine.
Singulair*. And it works pretty good. I bring a couple of inhalers with me which I usually need to use a couple times a day at Roo because of the dust. If you have a bad attack the medical tents have the nebulizer breathing treatment machines that will get you feeling nice and jittery in no time. My friend had to use those just about every day last year and even left early because it was so bad for him. USE THE BANDANA FACE MASK!!!
This is really good to know and exactly the information I was searching for. I have chronic bronchitis and pretty bad asthma. I've been having a terrible time of it this summer so far and as of this last week, I've been using my nebulizer breathing treatments quite frequently. I was hoping to find out if the medical tent had one I could use if I got desperate. It's too late for me to be in access (I don't even know if I would qualify for it.. guess I should be looking into that for next year) and it's not like I would have anywhere to plug in my own nebulizer if I brought it.
Allow me to chime in. I've treated lots of asthmatics over the years and have published an article in a medical journal on asthma (nerd alert), so I know a little bit!
Definitely have a rescue inhaler such as albuterol or Ventolin. Make sure that it actually has medication in it before you pack it, if you've had it for awhile. The newer ones have counters that tell how many doses remaining. With the older inhalers, they used to say put it in water/see if it floats, but research has not upheld that method. If in doubt, use the days before Roo to get a refill. You should always have one anyway.
Controlling dust/inhaled allergens is key. The bandana trick works well when it is dry and dusty. I bring a neti pot or saline sinus rinse bottle every year and use at least once daily, sometimes more. I just use bottled water and premix packets that are easily obtainable at any pharmacy. Even if it is not dry and dusty you will be inhaling ambient smoke, etc. to some degree.
Since allergies are a major asthma trigger for many, consider a non-drowsy allergy medicine. Claritin does nothing for me and doesn't seem to for many people...I happen to prefer Zyrtec as it works very well for me and is available in generic form (ceterizine) for a reasonable price. There are isolated cases of people who say it makes them drowsy but by and large most people - myself included - do well. Allegra is also very good but more expensive.
Word of caution: when buying the allergy medications OTC do not buy the kind with added decongestant. They have D as part of the name (i.e. Zyrtec-D). This is important because decongestants have the effect of raising the heart rate and blood pressure as a side effect. With the potential heat conditions and assorted recreational things that you might be imbibing in, you don't need anything else jacking you up.
If you are on a controller medication like Advair or Flovent, make sure that you continue to use those daily as prescribed so that your lungs are adequately protected. Missing a day or so won't make a huge difference, but don't get so caught up in pre-Roo prep that you forget your controller med for more than a couple of days.
Lastly, another benefit of staying well hydrated is that the mucus in your body stays thinner and it is much easier to expel dust and smoke particles.
Word of caution: when buying the allergy medications OTC do not buy the kind with added decongestant. They have D as part of the name (i.e. Zyrtec-D). This is important because decongestants have the effect of raising the heart rate and blood pressure as a side effect. With the potential heat conditions and assorted recreational things that you might be imbibing in, you don't need anything else jacking you up.
This is really, really good advice. I never would have thought of this. I use Zyrtec daily and when needed, I use Aleve-D Cold & Sinus. Are you saying I shouldn't use that while I'm there? Also, my albuterol will obviously jack my heart rate up. That's pretty unavoidable though, as if I'm using this- I'm desperate and seriously cannot breathe. I normally don't have too much of a problem on the farm but I've had a rough summer so far and I'm predicting it's not going to magically clear up while I'm there next week.
Post by dreamingtree on Jun 7, 2014 21:55:57 GMT -5
I used to be on Zyrtec D. When I went to an allergy specialist and starting getting allergy shots, almost 3 years ago, they told me to stop taking Zyrtec D, because it just wasn't necessary and just take Zyrtek. I did and I was totally fine with it. If I have bad allergy days, I take Benadryl in the evening also, but I don't need to very often now.
Any of the "D"econgestant medicines completely wire me out - heart racing, lack of sleep, etc. That is why I ended up going the allergy shots route. They were the only thing that helped, but I didn't like being so dependent on those. I'm a little worried about 'roo this year, I went to a super dusty desert festival about two weeks ago and contracted what I've been calling the black lung, hehe. Probably more of an environmentally induced bronchitis, but man I felt awful. I'm still suffering from the cough, and worry that it will put me in a more susceptible state for getting it all over again. Thankfully 'roo is not as dusty as it used to be with more grass etc, but I'm definitely brining a bandana and probably will bring a nasal rinse too and of course a trusty rescue inhaler!