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It's cool, I'm used to being judged, if you couldn't tell. And ftr I only said The National and Bon Iver are boring - the other two I'm just not crazy about. I can see someone making the case for the Avetts being boring, but not NMH. Aeroplane is a folkadelic carousel of an album with spectacular (if at times admittedly near-impossible to grasp) lyrics and evocative imagery. It's dynamic with rousing horns, warbly saws, and a metric fuckton of emotion. Very, very far from boring.
It's hard for me to make such a case for the Avetts, but I think they have a wonderful knack for melody and harmony, and their lyrics, while simple, can be pretty impactful.
I've listened to a decent amount of Bon Iver, but have no fucking clue what he's singing. It's pretty, but I can't connect with it. He's good to put on when I need to be gently lulled to dreamland. And I actually really like The National's lyrics, but I just don't like the guy's voice. It stirs nothing within me. Spoon and the Decemberists I've listened to only a handful of times and nothing ever stood out to me, so I stopped listening.
I don't think I have a very pigeonholeable taste in music.
5.5/four tet, daphni b2b floating points, avalon emerson 5.12/neil young 5.19/mannequin pussy 5.21/serpentwithfeet 5.25/hozier 6.12-16/bonnaroo 6.28/goose 6.29/goose 9.17/the national + the war on drugs 9.23/sigur ros 9.27-29/making time 10.17/air
When can we talk the about music I've loved that all of you pseudo-hipsters hate? I'll praise late 90's butt-rock all day if it means differing from you.
Buried on these boards somewhere is a thread for Bands I Love That Everyone Hates or something like that.
Also, Foo Fighters are still boring and simple to me.
ehh, but they also got a Nels Cline. I call that trading up.
And that has been something that has confused me. I loved Jeff Tweedy's songs before he started working with Jay and I loved Nels' stuff with The Geraldine Fibbers, Mike Watt and Carla Bozulich. But I lost a lot of interest in Wilco after he joined the band. I don't know. Maybe every time I heard it I was just in a bad mood.
I just saw them on the 3rd, and Nels just adds so much to the songs, even the old ones. Tasteful flourishes or freakouts. I only saw one show with Bennett, but every show Ive seen with Nels has been way better. I'll admit that is a little unfair because I think that since kickin' the painkillers and getting a solid, consistent lineup for the past 10 or so years has really helped them become a much better band live. And I don't get how you can like YHF and not like a Ghost is Born.
And yet I still have to hear from people run on about the Beatles all the time.
You should have been banned long ago for your Beatles hating.
Thanks for once again serving as a prime example as to why I hate Beatles fans. My viewpoint on them has been discussed in this forum in depth (including page two of this thread) yet I am consistently misrepresented because I refuse to drink the Kool-Aid.
You should have been banned long ago for your Beatles hating.
Thanks for once again serving as a prime example as to why I hate Beatles fans. My viewpoint on them has been discussed in this forum in depth (including page two of this thread) yet I am consistently misrepresented because I refuse to drink the Kool-Aid.
You should have been banned long ago for your Beatles hating.
Thanks for once again serving as a prime example as to why I hate Beatles fans. My viewpoint on them has been discussed in this forum in depth (including page two of this thread) yet I am consistently misrepresented because I refuse to drink the Kool-Aid.
Oh your hate of the Beatles is NOT misrepresented. You have represented it quite well. And the Beatles don't even have Kool-Aid! (one of the very few things they actually don't market)
The Beatles - I had a roommate that I hated, its ALL the kid played. Not like, he played it a lot...and some other stuff once in a while, it was ALL he EVER played. Usually the same 10 songs. Seriously. While I appreciate some John Lennon solo stuff, I think The Beatles were just a boy band that worked. Someone shot an arrow and drew a target around where it landed.
Other than that, most of the stuff on the board is stuff that I either like, or understand why other people dig it (even if its not my favorite).
Post by heyyitskait on Jul 7, 2015 16:54:07 GMT -5
Can I get my ticket punched for the not liking Bon Iver train?
I've been seeing a lot of "have you seen them live?" entering the discussion. If I don't like a bands recorded material, why would I spend money to go see them live? This is, of course, not counting festival shows. Like, I'd probably check out Bon Iver at a festival if there wasn't a conflict because I know I could get a real nice nap in, but I wouldn't go out and buy a ticket to their show if they were playing near me.
And that has been something that has confused me. I loved Jeff Tweedy's songs before he started working with Jay and I loved Nels' stuff with The Geraldine Fibbers, Mike Watt and Carla Bozulich. But I lost a lot of interest in Wilco after he joined the band. I don't know. Maybe every time I heard it I was just in a bad mood.
I just saw them on the 3rd, and Nels just adds so much to the songs, even the old ones. Tasteful flourishes or freakouts. I only saw one show with Bennett, but every show Ive seen with Nels has been way better. I'll admit that is a little unfair because I think that since kickin' the painkillers and getting a solid, consistent lineup for the past 10 or so years has really helped them become a much better band live. And I don't get how you can like YHF and not like a Ghost is Born.
I just remember being really underwhelmed by it. I don't know, maybe I didn't give it a fair shot. Also, the last time I was them was on the YHF tour. I would love to see them again with Nels it's just that every time they come around I don't have the money or it or I wait too long to get tickets.
The Beatles - I had a roommate that I hated, its ALL the kid played. Not like, he played it a lot...and some other stuff once in a while, it was ALL he EVER played. Usually the same 10 songs. Seriously. While I appreciate some John Lennon solo stuff, I think The Beatles were just a boy band that worked. Someone shot an arrow and drew a target around where it landed.
Other than that, most of the stuff on the board is stuff that I either like, or understand why other people dig it (even if its not my favorite).
Oh good. Another "the Beatles are over-rated thread."
Post by Swedish Chef on Jul 7, 2015 19:30:41 GMT -5
Here's my take on The Beatles. There's a reason (actually, quite a few) they're the best-selling music group of all time. Their ability to write great pop songs was unparalleled, and to this day, their contributions to music remain incredibly influential. As for the "boy band" comment, while it's true that they started out as a fairly simplistic pop band who wrote catchy songs with somewhat cheesy harmonies, this label would only be valid if they stopped making music after A Hard Day's Night was released. Between 1965 and 1970, they were one of the most experimental and innovative bands around. They explored an impressive variety of genres and sounds, and their approach to songwriting became much more thought-provoking and complex. That being said, The Beatles were far from the most talented band in terms of raw musical ability. I can also understand how The Beatles may not appeal to everyone, despite the fact that they unequivocally remain my favorite band to this day.
Here's my take on The Beatles. There's a reason (actually, quite a few) they're the best-selling music group of all time. Their ability to write great pop songs was unparalleled, and to this day, their contributions to music remain incredibly influential. As for the "boy band" comment, while it's true that they started out as a fairly simplistic pop band that wrote catchy songs with somewhat cheesy harmonies, this label would only be valid if they stopped making music after A Hard Day's Night was released. Between 1965 and 1970, they were one of the most experimental and innovative bands around. They explored an impressive variety of genres and sounds, and their approach to songwriting became much more thought-provoking and complex. That being said, The Beatles were far from the most talented band in terms of raw musical ability. I can also understand how The Beatles may not appeal to everyone, despite the fact that they unequivocally remain my favorite band to this day.
I took a class on The Beatles a couple of years ago as a grade booster. Stand back, I got this...
Modest Mouse - meh The National - boring Bon Iver - boring when I'm sober Rush - meh Spoon - meh Smiths/Pixies - no shits given Notorious B.I.G. - way overrated Decemberists/Strokes - Are they bands everyone loves? I don't know, and I don't care. Radiohead - I'm reserving judgment until I see them live, otherwise meh
Edit: haha didn't even see postjack's post when made this. The hate just flows naturally.
I took some deep breaths and will try to be constructive.
You sound like a very disappointed father.
Edit: A very disappointed father who disapproves of his son's/daughter's choice for a life partner.
The Smiths, Bjork, and Radiohead. They all fall in my "meh" category.
You're still young, you should be excited about how much your appreciation of certain music will grow over the next ten years.
Not even trying to be a dick, when I was 22 I hated Radiohead (I thought Kid A was an attempt to make the fans praising it look like dumbasses and I wasn't going to fall for that shit) and had never even listened to The Smiths.
Having said that The Smiths are a pretty polarizing band, which is odd for a band that cranked out more pop masterpieces than any other band in its decade. I'm thinking people either love Morrissey's lyrics and vocals or hate them, and that's the deciding factor.
It's funny that you mention Morrissey's vocals. I have a good friend who became infatuated with The Smiths in college, but I just couldn't get into them, and Morrissey's vocals was one of the biggest factors. Over time, my opinion of them has changed. I'm still not a huge fan, but I've come to really appreciate their impact on the indie/alternative genre, as well as the brilliantly clever juxtaposition of Johnny Marr's upbeat, jangly guitar with Morrissey's melancholy vocals and cynical lyrics.