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kanye definitely leveled up production more than any other single artist.
good call on chief keef, i don't think you get emo rap and subsequently the contemporary hip-hop sound without the culture first plunging into the darkness of drill music.
It's when mainstream rap music became "heavy" and it started to become normal to mosh at rap shows (not just in the more alternative scene). Like they naturally took hip hop into a more "punk" direction without ever being exposed punk bands or anything like that. They just sort of found their way there. Then artists like Travis Scott and Playboi Carti took that trap/drill sound and experimented with it more. I mean just look at the energy on stage when they were starting out.
Now you can definitely say similar things about the M.O.P, Onyx, and artists in the Crunk era. But I think Trap and Drill music permanently brought a new energy into hip hop. You wouldn't have Rolling Loud and things like that if it weren't for this wave of artists in the early 2010's.
what are the big "level ups" in the history of hip-hop production? basically a song or act that created some brand new shit, or at least some brand new shit that broke through into the popular consciousness.
i think "nothing but a g thang" obviously. definitely the Earthtone III/Outkast crew, I'm thinking "Ms. Jackson" might embody that.
Some that stick out for me:
The Message - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (song - first iteration of "conscious rap")
Criminal Minded - Boogie Down Productions (album - early gangsta rap)
License to Ill - Beastie Boys (album - punk/rock rap)
Alwayz into Somethin' - NWA (song - first iteration of g-funk)
Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde - The Pharcyde (album - west coast alternative rap)
any early album with the Soulquarians (Roots - Things Fall Apart, D'Angelo - Voodoo, Erykah Badu - Mama's Gun, Common - Like Water for Chocolate)
Donuts - J Dilla (IFYKYK)
To Pimp A Butterfly - Kendrick Lamar (accumulation and expansion of everything previously mentioned)
The Message - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (song - first iteration of "conscious rap") Ice-T - Power (album - early gangsta rap) Public Enemy - It Takes a Million To Hold Us Back (album) Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique Life is Too Short - Too Short (real west to Texas sound) The Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest (album - jazz rap) MF Doom: Operation Doomsday Outkast - Speakerboxx/The Love Below Donuts - J Dilla (IFYKYK) Lil Wayne - The Carter III Tyler the Creator. - Bastard or Goblin (dealer's choice) To Pimp A Butterfly - Kendrick Lamar (accumulation and expansion of everything previously mentioned) The Roots - Undun
Would like to say that also everything except for Too Short is produced by the group/individual.
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idt TPAB really changed the sound in a movement way, no one's trying to do it because they can't?
there's just so many amazing people on it, hard to really replicate, just on a scale it's like Kanye Beyonce Jay have that big of a production/writing roster, but they're not doing anything like that
idt TPAB really changed the sound in a movement way, no one's trying to do it because they can't?
there's just so many amazing people on it, hard to really replicate, just on a scale it's like Kanye Beyonce Jay have that big of a production/writing roster, but they're not doing anything like that
I think it blew up the LA jazz scene in a big way. You used to be able to see Kamazi, Thundercat etc. on random weekday nights at The Whale but they’re huge now. But yea not everyone can do something on that scope but I see Kendricks style influencing A.Pak, Vince, Keem etc.
But most of my list is biased towards the west coast since that’s what I usually catch onto early since I’m in SoCal and what I’m partial to vs other regions.
The Message - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (song - first iteration of "conscious rap")
Criminal Minded - Boogie Down Productions (album - early gangsta rap)
License to Ill - Beastie Boys (album - punk/rock rap)
Alwayz into Somethin' - NWA (song - first iteration of g-funk)
Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde - The Pharcyde (album - west coast alternative rap)
any early album with the Soulquarians (Roots - Things Fall Apart, D'Angelo - Voodoo, Erykah Badu - Mama's Gun, Common - Like Water for Chocolate)
Donuts - J Dilla (IFYKYK)
To Pimp A Butterfly - Kendrick Lamar (accumulation and expansion of everything previously mentioned)
The Message - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (song - first iteration of "conscious rap") Ice-T - Power (album - early gangsta rap) Public Enemy - It Takes a Million To Hold Us Back (album) Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique Life is Too Short - Too Short (real west to Texas sound) The Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest (album - jazz rap) MF Doom: Operation Doomsday Outkast - Speakerboxx/The Love Below Donuts - J Dilla (IFYKYK) Lil Wayne - The Carter III Tyler the Creator. - Bastard or Goblin (dealer's choice) To Pimp A Butterfly - Kendrick Lamar (accumulation and expansion of everything previously mentioned) The Roots - Undun
Would like to say that also everything except for Too Short is produced by the group/individual.
The only one I was gonna swap out on my list was License to Ill for Paul’s Boutique. PB is probably my favorite Beastie Boys album but I went with License because nobody was mixing those generes at that time. You could argue Walk This Way but that was more of a one off single.
It's funny because (workmates) were talking about the old super Gravitron's, a la Action Park. Apparently they make safer versions now but in other countries the ones where you tilt during your fast rotation is still a norm. Detroit had to one up us with a goddamn metal slide
edit: The workers are mostly Latino and the term for the ride is Tagada
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JID album is very good, not dissimilar from his previous work but you can tell he’s been working on this a while. The track with Earthgang has some crazy flows and beat switches. Gonna keep this in rotation for a bit.
Edit: features from Mos Def, Lil Wayne, and a James Blake cameo too.
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2.4/big thief 2.18/fred again.. + four tet + skrillex 3.24+25/goose 4.14-16/coachella 6.9/shania twain 6.15-18/bonnaroo 9.9/murder by death 9.18/janelle monae 9.22-24/making time transcendental 10.14/fred again..
A- Andre 3000 B- Big Boi C- Chance The Rapper D- Danny Brown (Denzel Curry extremely close runner up) E- Earl Sweatshirt F- Freddie Gibbs (Frank Ocean if you count him, he’s many genres) G- Ghostemane H- Hemlock Ernst I- IDK J- J.I.D K- Kendrick Lamar L- Lil Ugly Mane M- MF DOOM N- Noname O- Open Mike Eagle P- Pusha T Q- Q-Tip R- Rico Nasty S- ScHoolboy Q T- Tyler, The Creator U- Ugly God V- Vince Staples W- Westside Gunn X- Xavier Wulf if i had to choose, not big on anyone in this category Y- yasiin bey Z- Zack De Rocha
AZ Busta Rhymes Crooked I DMX Eminem Fabulous GZA Hopsin Ice Cube Joyner Lucas Kurupt Ludacris Method Man Nas If Outkast doesn't count, idk, Obie Trice I guess. Pharoahe Monch Queen Latifah Royce da 5'9 Spice 1 Tech N9ne U = ? Vince Staples Wrekonize Xzibit Yukmouth Z-Ro Starting w/ Number = 2Pac
First impression of kd3 is really really strong. Crazy that Nas has legit dropped 4 very good albums in like 3 years
I've listened a couple of times now and it's another solid project imo. Still think 'Magic' is my favorite one of his recent releases but agree his body of work over the last couple of years has been really good.
First impression of kd3 is really really strong. Crazy that Nas has legit dropped 4 very good albums in like 3 years
I've listened a couple of times now and it's another solid project imo. Still think 'Magic' is my favorite one of his recent releases but agree his body of work over the last couple of years has been really good.
I think I like this better than magic, but I need to really listen to the second half more closely. Everything through 30 is great at the very least.
I've listened a couple of times now and it's another solid project imo. Still think 'Magic' is my favorite one of his recent releases but agree his body of work over the last couple of years has been really good.
I think I like this better than magic, but I need to really listen to the second half more closely. Everything through 30 is great at the very least.
The first half was definitely stronger imo. Thun - Michael & Quincy - 30 all slap. Best one for me on the second half was Beef.