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Really, older than that considering that McCartney has been making music for almost 40 years. Woodstock would have had to have dragged some speakeasy gramophone DJ up there. That woulda got the Woodstock crowd rockin, yea right?
There's been a request for someone to capture and torrent the show. I don't have that ability, but thought I'd toss it in here for anyone who does.
Oh hey! That was me! I'm a cheapskate w/ a Roku, no cable for me. If someone could capture it I'll download 5 concerts of their choosing from dime in exchange.
Lucky for all of us, the attendees of Woodstock weren't so close-minded and afraid of change to the point where they refused to embrace all the wonderful "new" music around them.
I'm pretty damn open minded.
And I would have gone to Woodstock, but my tricycle couldn't get me that far.
For all the nashvillains I am planning a party to watch it at a friends house who has a built in bar there will be a few kegs and room for whoever just message me for details.
For all the nashvillains I am planning a party to watch it at a friends house who has a built in bar there will be a few kegs and room for whoever just message me for details.
For all the nashvillains I am planning a party to watch it at a friends house who has a built in bar there will be a few kegs and room for whoever just message me for details.
*ahem*
I will hit you on the facebook event . Also this will not be kid friendly but I am paying mine to babysit several other young ones at my place so feel free to drop them off.
Woodstock also had fewer old white dudes on the lineup.
So I did a quick tally and 37% of the bands at Woodstock were fronted by non-white-dudes. Bonnaroo has way too many acts to count on my lunch break, but I'd love to know how the line-up compares. My gut tells me no better than Woodstock, but I'd love to be wrong. That's progress!
Woodstock also had fewer old white dudes on the lineup.
So I did a quick tally and 37% of the bands at Woodstock were fronted by non-white-dudes. Bonnaroo has way too many acts to count on my lunch break, but I'd love to know how the line-up compares. My gut tells me no better than Woodstock, but I'd love to be wrong. That's progress!
Not really. Using Wikipedia (since Bonnaroo doesn't host all their old lineups anymore, THANKS OBAMA), there are 82 acts listed for 2008. By my count, only 21 of those are fronted by either a non-white person or a woman (and I included stuff like Trucks/Tedeschi and Plant/Krauss). So in Bonnaroo 2008 the amount of non-white male performers was around 25%. Please note I only used the main stage acts - I have zero idea who makes up the cafe bands from 2008, so I'm not going to try and guess. If you add in the "Somethin' Else" jazz acts, that's another 12 groups, most of whom feature minorities pretty heavily. I guess you could bump this total and say that it's about 33 out of 94 for 2008, which would get you in the 35% range.
Counting only the acts on the main stages in 2013, Bonnaroo featured 110 acts, 32 of which were either fronted by of featured heavily women or people who weren't white. That's 29 percent.
This isn't really conclusive of anything, but it is kind of interesting. I doubt that many other major music festivals would be much different.
Wow I was just shooting from the hip, what about 2010 with JAy Z and Stevie Headlining plus the female singer songwriter lovefest with Tori Amos, Norah Jones, Cat Power et al.?
Not really. Using Wikipedia (since Bonnaroo doesn't host all their old lineups anymore, THANKS OBAMA), there are 82 acts listed for 2008. By my count, only 21 of those are fronted by either a non-white person or a woman (and I included stuff like Trucks/Tedeschi and Plant/Krauss). So in Bonnaroo 2008 the amount of non-white male performers was around 25%. Please note I only used the main stage acts - I have zero idea who makes up the cafe bands from 2008, so I'm not going to try and guess. If you add in the "Somethin' Else" jazz acts, that's another 12 groups, most of whom feature minorities pretty heavily. I guess you could bump this total and say that it's about 33 out of 94 for 2008, which would get you in the 35% range.
Counting only the acts on the main stages in 2013, Bonnaroo featured 110 acts, 32 of which were either fronted by of featured heavily women or people who weren't white. That's 29 percent.
This isn't really conclusive of anything, but it is kind of interesting. I doubt that many other major music festivals would be much different.
I started doing this as well, then I saw you already did it. Did you count comedians?
And I noticed a good amount of these acts were solo in the initial count.
What about not worrying about things such as age, race, or gender and instead concentrate on the quality of music?
Who's worrying? It's just an interesting discussion. For instance, despite the fact that it's pretty incontrovertible that the 21st century is more well integrated and certainly less free of prejudice, gender and racial lines than the 1960s, it's surprising that a major music festival would feature fewer minority-fronted acts than one that took place 40+ years before.
I agree, this is cool info to think about. I wonder what the ratio of non white performers who play to majority white audiences is these days. I mean the 60's had motown, and arguably a lot more mainstream minority performers than we do now. With the exception of pop music minority are almost excluded from rock stations these days.
Who's worrying? It's just an interesting discussion. For instance, despite the fact that it's pretty incontrovertible that the 21st century is more well integrated and certainly less free of prejudice, gender and racial lines than the 1960s, it's surprising that a major music festival would feature fewer minority-fronted acts than one that took place 40+ years before.
I agree, this is cool info to think about. I wonder what the ratio of non white performers who play to majority white audiences is these days. I mean the 60's had motown, and arguably a lot more mainstream minority performers than we do now. With the exception of pop music minority are almost excluded from rock stations these days.
I don't think that's the way to look at it. Motown was the pop-music of its day.
I agree, this is cool info to think about. I wonder what the ratio of non white performers who play to majority white audiences is these days. I mean the 60's had motown, and arguably a lot more mainstream minority performers than we do now. With the exception of pop music minority are almost excluded from rock stations these days.
I don't think that's the way to look at it. Motown was the pop-music of its day.
I am not old enough to weigh in on it, but the Osmonds and whatnot were the pop music, motown was pretty edgy I think.
I don't think that's the way to look at it. Motown was the pop-music of its day.
I am not old enough to weigh in on it, but the Osmonds and whatnot were the pop music, motown was pretty edgy I think.
Motown had 45 #1 hits in the 60s and 70s. Throughout the 60s Berry Gordy strived to make it as "unedgy" as possible. Next to the British invasion it was the most popular music in the world.
I am not old enough to weigh in on it, but the Osmonds and whatnot were the pop music, motown was pretty edgy I think.
Motown had 45 #1 hits in the 60s and 70s. Throughout the 60s Berry Gordy strived to make it as "unedgy" as possible. Next to the British invasion it was the most popular music in the world.
Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Blues Traveler, Soundgarden etc.. also had #1 hits in the generation I am from and they were considered edgy. That being said some Motown was pop but not all of it by any means. It is actually more difficult than I thought trying to compare the different musical landscapes.
Post by mojoworks on Sept 11, 2013 14:20:23 GMT -5
Motown was definitely more pop oriented that other soul labels such as Stax/Volt. One thing nobody has considered is comparing percentage of acts of a particular race or gender compared with their percentage of the population as a whole. By this metric you could say that women performers are under represented(more than half the population while maybe 10% of 'Roo performers are female). Black performers on the other hand are likely over represented when compared to the general population.
I get your point, but on no planet was "Runaround" ever considered 'edgy.'
But Poppa was a Rolling stone and more or less half of Marvin Gayes catalog was. Motown is odd to discuss though it was really a separate genre of music so comparing it to rock and roll is hard.
I get your point, but on no planet was "Runaround" ever considered 'edgy.'
But Poppa was a Rolling stone and more or less half of Marvin Gayes catalog was. Motown is odd to discuss though it was really a separate genre of music so comparing it to rock and roll is hard.
Yeah, but Motown didn't get edgy till after Woodstock, which is why I brought it up in this context. What's Going On (1970) was a sea change for Motown "edgy" wise.
But Poppa was a Rolling stone and more or less half of Marvin Gayes catalog was. Motown is odd to discuss though it was really a separate genre of music so comparing it to rock and roll is hard.
Yeah, but Motown didn't get edgy till after Woodstock, which is why I brought it up in this context. What's Going On (1970) was a sea change for Motown "edgy" wise.
Thats a fair point, I wish I knew Motown history well enough to argue it with you.
Yeah, but Motown didn't get edgy till after Woodstock, which is why I brought it up in this context. What's Going On (1970) was a sea change for Motown "edgy" wise.
Thats a fair point, I wish I knew Motown history well enough to argue it with you.
Post by mojoworks on Sept 11, 2013 14:31:51 GMT -5
Marvin Gaye was a rebel at Motown. He was in a constant battle with Berry Gordy about the direction his music would take. Gaye was able to parlay the success of "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" to give him greater independence. This is how he was able to take on greater issues such as the Viet Nam war and the ecology on his great album "What's Going On".
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Sept 11, 2013 15:19:37 GMT -5
I think this is an interesting discussion as it relates to Bonnaroo v. Woodstock. Obviously different cultures/ethnicities will have different musical interests, but I think the socioeconomic crowd for Roo and Woodstock is basically the same.
The lack of women is particularly interesting to me. I don't heap the blame on ACs feet or anything, he's gonna book what will sell tickets. But to some extent major festivals have a role as taste makers, and Bonnaroo, IMO, could do more in that regard.
I think this is an interesting discussion as it relates to Bonnaroo v. Woodstock. Obviously different cultures/ethnicities will have different musical interests, but I think the socioeconomic crowd for Roo and Woodstock is basically the same.
The lack of women is particularly interesting to me. I don't heap the blame on ACs feet or anything, he's gonna book what will sell tickets. But to some extent major festivals have a role as taste makers, and Bonnaroo, IMO, could do more in that regard.
Honest question, how many female performers or female-fronted groups could headline a fest like Bonnaroo? I mean I'm thinking you've basically got Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Bjork, Adele...acts like Portishead, MIA, Santigold, etc. aren't big enough, so I think the options are somewhat limited.
I mean, I think you pretty much got it + Madonna. But I think it's a bit of a chicken/egg thing. If fests took more chances showcasing women with mainstream/rock audience, there'd be more women on that list in the future.
As a crude example, I think in the winter of 2006 if you had asked "how many EDM acts can headline a US fest" the answer would have been maaaaybe Chemical Brothers. Then Lolla said "f*ck it, we're putting Daft Punk on the mainstage." Immediately after that the answer would have been Daft Punk and Chemical Brothers, but 5 years later there are a lot more EDM acts on the verge.
. Also this will not be kid friendly but I am paying mine to babysit several other young ones at my place so feel free to drop them off.
