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Post by heyyitskait on Mar 25, 2014 17:19:19 GMT -5
Since everyone is discussing electronic music genres and sub-genres, will someone explain to me what the hell Shoegaze is? Is it music that makes me want to look at shoes? Are the shoes on my feet? Why would you go see live music that makes you want to stare down at your feet? Have I completely misinterpreted the name of the genre?
Funny, I was just thinking that I feel like I'm arguing with flanz, and here you are.
It's not that I can't distinguish different sounds. I can. I just think that it's silly that whenever a new artist comes out, suddenly there is a random new label attached. Dubstep, & trap(t?) ,for example, are the two sub genres that come immediately to mind. I don't understand what makes trap different from dub step, but I also am not a dubstep fan, and don't really like trap all that much either. Maybe that's why they both just sound like noise to me...
It's odd that you would think of me, considering I've backed off the board quite a bit the past month and a half and let the idiots run the asylum for a bit. And I've also never argued with you before.
Anyway. You are aware that many of these genres of music existed before Random Person X that you just heard of, right? And, as has been the case through the history of modern music...people experiment. So, when someone takes a pillar of Genre A and mixes it with something from Genre B and something from Genre C...that's a new sound. Why should people be forced to put a round peg into a square hole because you don't want to learn a new word or phrase? And rather than taking the time to learn the difference between two genres of music, you'd rather gripe about the process of naming new and inventive types of music?
So, in summary...you're critical of types of music that you don't like or listen to frequently, and question people who are explaining it to you. Got it. Also....
Ah, but see, I admitted I didn't know the difference between those two genres specially & only one person actually decided to explain the difference. Rather than problem dog over there who is just making generally broad statements about how "I'm dumb." There lies my annoyance. GNO explained how trap (no T apparently, got it, although I only guessed at that spelling one time) differed from dubstep. He explained it, I get it now. And I'm not just critical of the genres I don't like, but if I don't like them, probability is I'm not going to look into it very much, because I basically don't care enough to do my research. And yes, I'm aware that the genres existed before, but you have to admit, lots of new genres are popping up, that square peg you're speaking of.
And I only made the comparison to you because I've read several of your disputes with others on the board and that's what discussion reminded me of.
Since everyone is discussing electronic music genres and sub-genres, will someone explain to me what the hell Shoegaze is? Is it music that makes me want to look at shoes? Are the shoes on my feet? Why would you go see live music that makes you want to stare down at your feet? Have I completely misinterpreted the name of the genre?
My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Slowdive were the original shoegaze bands.
I *think* NME coined the phrase, or certainly a mag like that, as they tended to feature long-fringed Thurston Moore wannabies (no bad thing) who would appear shy and aloof on stage and mess about with guitar pedals hence gazing at their shoes. The songs are generally quite noisy but not rocky, with some form of pleasant melody or guitar line hidden within. Generally longer than average songs, fairly repetitve, kind of 'blissed out' sound.
Influences on the sound I'd say were Sonic Youth, Jesus and Mary Chain, Velvet Underground, Neu (and other krautrock stuff)
Recently Ringo Deathstarr, The Horrors and Yuck share similar sounds, though probably with less pedals.
Since everyone is discussing electronic music genres and sub-genres, will someone explain to me what the hell Shoegaze is? Is it music that makes me want to look at shoes? Are the shoes on my feet? Why would you go see live music that makes you want to stare down at your feet? Have I completely misinterpreted the name of the genre?
My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Slowdive were the original shoegaze bands.
I *think* NME coined the phrase, or certainly a mag like that, as they tended to feature long-fringed Thurston Moore wannabies (no bad thing) who would appear shy and aloof on stage and mess about with guitar pedals hence gazing at their shoes. The songs are generally quite noisy but not rocky, with some form of pleasant melody or guitar line hidden within. Generally longer than average songs, fairly repetitve, kind of 'blissed out' sound.
Influences on the sound I'd say were Sonic Youth, Jesus and Mary Chain, Velvet Underground, Neu (and other krautrock stuff)
Recently Ringo Deathstarr, The Horrors and Yuck share similar sounds, though probably with less pedals.
Since everyone is discussing electronic music genres and sub-genres, will someone explain to me what the hell Shoegaze is? Is it music that makes me want to look at shoes? Are the shoes on my feet? Why would you go see live music that makes you want to stare down at your feet? Have I completely misinterpreted the name of the genre?
The best description I can come up with for shoegaze is rock music where the song is created by distorting sounds with various effects, possibly in a dissonant manner. It typically can sound pretty droning or muddled because they don't necessarily try to distinguish all the instruments from one another. You would probably like it if you like grunge, post-rock or metal. My Bloody Valentine is kind of the archetypal shoegaze band.
People like this music because it can be incredibly powerful emotionally. Stuff like that can really lure you into a trance where you only focus on the music. If you're at a shoe you may not be raging and dancing super hard but you will definitely be completely captured by the music, which is why most people listen to music in the first place.
Any shoegaze experts, please correct me if I messed this up. I don't really listen to it that much.
Since everyone is discussing electronic music genres and sub-genres, will someone explain to me what the hell Shoegaze is? Is it music that makes me want to look at shoes? Are the shoes on my feet? Why would you go see live music that makes you want to stare down at your feet? Have I completely misinterpreted the name of the genre?
My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Slowdive were the original shoegaze bands.
I *think* NME coined the phrase, or certainly a mag like that, as they tended to feature long-fringed Thurston Moore wannabies (no bad thing) who would appear shy and aloof on stage and mess about with guitar pedals hence gazing at their shoes. The songs are generally quite noisy but not rocky, with some form of pleasant melody or guitar line hidden within. Generally longer than average songs, fairly repetitve, kind of 'blissed out' sound.
Influences on the sound I'd say were Sonic Youth, Jesus and Mary Chain, Velvet Underground, Neu (and other krautrock stuff)
Recently Ringo Deathstarr, The Horrors and Yuck share similar sounds, though probably with less pedals.
Hope that is useful!
Many thanks. A local radio station has a show called "Going Underground" and they use shoegaze as one of the featured genre's during the commercial for it but it was lumped in with more electronic genres so I just assumed it was one.
"Usage of the term "intelligent dance music" has been criticised by electronic musicians such as Aphex Twin as derogatory towards other styles and is seen by artists such as Mike Paradinas as being particular to (dumbshits) the U.S."
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My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Slowdive were the original shoegaze bands.
I *think* NME coined the phrase, or certainly a mag like that, as they tended to feature long-fringed Thurston Moore wannabies (no bad thing) who would appear shy and aloof on stage and mess about with guitar pedals hence gazing at their shoes. The songs are generally quite noisy but not rocky, with some form of pleasant melody or guitar line hidden within. Generally longer than average songs, fairly repetitve, kind of 'blissed out' sound.
Influences on the sound I'd say were Sonic Youth, Jesus and Mary Chain, Velvet Underground, Neu (and other krautrock stuff)
Recently Ringo Deathstarr, The Horrors and Yuck share similar sounds, though probably with less pedals.
Hope that is useful!
Many thanks. A local radio station has a show called "Going Underground" and they use shoegaze as one of the featured genre's during the commercial for it but it was lumped in with more electronic genres so I just assumed it was one.
If it'll get everyone to shutup, I'll agree with eagledude's dunce list that includes James Blake as "Pure EDM".
Yeah, he probably doesn't go under that category. I don't think either of our lists were definitively right to begin with, so let's just say there's more electronic-influenced artists on the lineup this year.
"Usage of the term "intelligent dance music" has been criticised by electronic musicians such as Aphex Twin as derogatory towards other styles and is seen by artists such as Mike Paradinas as being particular to (dumbshits) the U.S."
you forgot to site Wikipedia. Lylas. I'm just messing with you because I mentioned that earlier today.
So who's excited about some additions to the lineup? Who do we think will be added? Lots of talk about Childish Gambino being a possibility. Is that it? Anyone else?
