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I've been getting a weirder feeling from Tejas than I have from Mike D. Maybe it's because I was mafia with Mike D just last game, so his playing style is fresh in my mind. Then again, Mike can be a sneaky son of a gun, as he proved last game - but I'm going to trust my gut on this one.
Sleepy >>> Tejas
Only 3 posts (4th was his own death story).
-The obvious reason points to Krissy, seeing how that was his initial vote and held it until he had to change it.
-Next would be Tejas, but seems a little doubtful as the mafia should be able to "save" him if necessary - unless it is Tejas + the other 2 mafia already voting for me: Tejas. 6(Hakuna, Carini, Mike D, Jimmy, Jazmo, Sleepy)
Mike D. 5(Surfbum, Bacon, Krissyjo, Tejas, jfg)
-Extremely doubtful, but I wouldn't be too surprised if someone brings this up - seeing how this game has been slow, few accusations, ect killing off Sleepy would be a good option for a throwing off the town type kill. I wouldn't buy this as I have been mafia enough to know that you always have the inspector in mind with the kill.
I am pretty sure Krissy will take some heat from the Sleepy kill so I am going to take a shot at my second option/theory and go with Surf. Partially because of the kill (if Sleepy was killed due to Tejas with no one to help him), partially because I encouraged more runoffs to make folks think/vote and then he states that he is sticking with me and has no reason to switch. Curious to see what the rest of yall think about the kill, I am by no means set on this . . .
Well fuck I got nothing. I said last round I would stay on Mike D until I had a reason to do otherwise. I was definitely not planning on taking that into Round 2, but I ain't got anything better.
Um for the record I posted that before Mikes post was posted
I have had that happen before, where I thought I posted something before, but it showed up after. The timestamps show my post first though, I dunno
Oh I know it was just the time it took me to type out the post, I was just trying to say I posted the vote without having read your post, which could potentially change things
1. The most obvious is Krissy is mafia. Explains the sleepy mafia hit. I also like to keep an eye on people who are dropped in the first round run-offs (also gives me reason to watch Jimmy)
2. Anytime there is a theory that is made obvious, you need to also look at who potentially could gain from killing the most obvious person. So let's take a look at Krissys voting: Krissyjo>>>Sleepy>>> Mike D. Sleepy we know is mafia, so this would make me look hard at Mike D.
3. Mafia just killed sleepy because he is a very experienced and dangerous player, who was very quiet and thus give the town almost nothing to work on today.
I'm sticking with my Mike D vote for now, but at this point its more of a place holder than actual suspicion.
I don't think the sleepy whack points to Krissy, precisely because he posted so little. I'm gonna go with the "throwing off the town" type kill that Mike D finds extremely doubtful. By killing off someone who has contributed so little, the Mafia basically get to sit back and keep quiet like they did last round (or so I believe). They'd get to kill off a townie without bringing too much heat on themselves, and perhaps draw some heat on Krissy, further diverting attention from them. And even if Krissy IS Mafia, she could probably handle the heat because "Do you really want to vote me off because of ONE POST that sleepy made?" is a reasonable defense. Sleepy posted little enough that his whack makes it hard to draw too much info from.
Currently I'm buying into the "throwing off the town" thinkstream, which makes me suspicious of Mike D since he's trying to dissuade us from that. However, I still do want to see some new faces in the the runoff this round, so I'm not ready to vote yet.
Also Boner your vote tally shows Bacon voting for himself when he voted for Mike D.
I don't think the sleepy whack points to Krissy, precisely because he posted so little. I'm gonna go with the "throwing off the town" type kill that Mike D finds extremely doubtful. By killing off someone who has contributed so little, the Mafia basically get to sit back and keep quiet like they did last round (or so I believe). They'd get to kill off a townie without bringing too much heat on themselves, and perhaps draw some heat on Krissy, further diverting attention from them. And even if Krissy IS Mafia, she could probably handle the heat because "Do you really want to vote me off because of ONE POST that sleepy made?" is a reasonable defense. Sleepy posted little enough that his whack makes it hard to draw too much info from.
Currently I'm buying into the "throwing off the town" thinkstream, which makes me suspicious of Mike D since he's trying to dissuade us from that. However, I still do want to see some new faces in the the runoff this round, so I'm not ready to vote yet.
Also Boner your vote tally shows Bacon voting for himself when he voted for Mike D.
Honestly I'm surprise Boner is coherent at all right now after that game.
Also I see why Mike D thinks the throw off the town theory is unlikely, but I don't necessarily agree. I haven't paid attention lately, but the last couple games I played there was a trend of inspectors not voting their given name day 1. As Mafia it almost seemed like you had a better shot taking a random shot in the dark kill than anything else.
Killing sleepy eliminates a dangerous player, who could be inspector even if Krissy wasn't Mafia, and gives the town very litte to go on again even if Krissy was mafia.
Not saying this is what is going on but it certainly wouldn't surprise me
. Anytime there is a theory that is made obvious, you need to also look at who potentially could gain from killing the most obvious person. So let's take a look at Krissys voting: Krissyjo>>>Sleepy>>> Mike D. Sleepy we know is mafia, so this would make me look hard at Mike D.
I don't think the sleepy whack points to Krissy, precisely because he posted so little. I'm gonna go with the "throwing off the town" type kill that Mike D finds extremely doubtful. By killing off someone who has contributed so little, the Mafia basically get to sit back and keep quiet like they did last round (or so I believe). They'd get to kill off a townie without bringing too much heat on themselves, and perhaps draw some heat on Krissy, further diverting attention from them. And even if Krissy IS Mafia, she could probably handle the heat because "Do you really want to vote me off because of ONE POST that sleepy made?" is a reasonable defense. Sleepy posted little enough that his whack makes it hard to draw too much info from.
Currently I'm buying into the "throwing off the town" thinkstream, which makes me suspicious of Mike D since he's trying to dissuade us from that. However, I still do want to see some new faces in the the runoff this round, so I'm not ready to vote yet.
Also Boner your vote tally shows Bacon voting for himself when he voted for Mike D.
I've always been a proponent of giving the voting record more weight than what people are simply saying. True sleepy had few votes but he put his vote on Krissy an kept it there the whole round. I think that shouldn't be overlooked.
On the other hand, it's not necessarily plausible that sleepy would vote for his given name off the bat and then keep his vote there all round until she survived the first runoff.
If Krissy isn't his given name then Tejas is obviously the person to suspect. But he's already dead so like Mike D said I'd be taking a look at the people who voted for Mike D (trying to save Tejas).
So all in all I think a runoff with Krissy and 2 people that voted for Mike D would make the most sense based off the whack. At least for now that makes sense to me.
Missed the intended targets, probably because I don't know how to tag people, but at least someone caught on. It was in response to JFG saying this at the bottom of page 4. Sorry for copy/paste but I don't know how to multi quote.
Eh, I was chastised in regards that my "talk" was superfluous.
Don't want to muddle things; carry on.
Don't want to muddle things; carry on.[/quote]
Carsini12>>>JFG108
Few reasons:
The obvious bullshit one-to make your prediction partially come true.
I'm pretty sure the issue wasn't sure your talking, but the missed vote while you were talking looking suspect, and you decide to clam up for no reason at all.
You mentioned your initial theory of which three you had as suspects and based on that reasoning I was not one of those, yet your vote is on me with no reason, not even a ridiculous shot in the dark for sake of giving something.
Regarding the Whack:
I think they either thought Sleepy was inspector or tried to throw us off. His vote for Krissy was in response to her voting for him first, so I don't put as much weight into that aspect, but he did keep it there until she was out of the runoff. Other then that I'm not sure what to think.
I'm not a fan of this stalling. JFG you are obviously here, why aren't you voting? Tejas where are you?
Then I assume you are locked in, just waiting for the final tally?
I'm not voting yet because it's pointless; none of the mafia are on the board and I don't fancy sending an innocent to the gallows.
That's a bullshit excuse. There is no way for a townie to know whether or not mafia are on the board, there is only speculation. Voting is important in order to find mafia, and not something to just say "I don't wanna" to - if you have the best interest of the town in mind.
Then I assume you are locked in, just waiting for the final tally?
I'm not voting yet because it's pointless; none of the mafia are on the board and I don't fancy sending an innocent to the gallows.
That's a bullshit excuse. There is no way for a townie to know whether or not mafia are on the board, there is only speculation. Voting is important in order to find mafia, and not something to just say "I don't wanna" to - if you have the best interest of the town in mind.
krissyjo>>>jfg
That was from last round, four days ago, and I already apologized to you twice.
Don't have the time or brainpower right now to go through the thread completely so I'm going with what sticks out to me.
That's a bullshit excuse. There is no way for a townie to know whether or not mafia are on the board, there is only speculation. Voting is important in order to find mafia, and not something to just say "I don't wanna" to - if you have the best interest of the town in mind.
krissyjo>>>jfg
That was from last round, four days ago, and I already apologized to you twice.
It doesn't matter what round it was from. Every post, every vote (or lack thereof) is going to be analyzed. That's the way this game is played and won or lost. Apologies don't matter - something was done that didn't sit well with me, so that's where my vote is going.
That was from last round, four days ago, and I already apologized to you twice.
It doesn't matter what round it was from. Every post, every vote (or lack thereof) is going to be analyzed. That's the way this game is played and won or lost. Apologies don't matter - something was done that didn't sit well with me, so that's where my vote is going.
Ok.
Is that why you have not posted much of substance in this thread? To give us nothing to go on?
You have posted in this thread about eighteen times: three were for votes - none backed up with any valid reasoning (in two cases no reasoning at all); thirteen were in the vein of "we have nothing to go on", "no one is talking", or "damn that jfg is a d!ck for taking a nap and missing a vote". Two of your posts were actually about gameplay - and those were just repeating what someone else has said.
Apologies for taking so long. I really think sleepy was whacked to give us nothing. I think we really need to get some different people in the runoff than last and really try to dig in this round to get anywhere. I had an idea of people I wanted to vote for but at this point in the round and where the votes stand right now, this round is looking to similar to last and look where that got us.
Hakuna >> Surf
Krissy - I'm not saying innocent because of whack, but I'd lean more towards the whack not so much being a frame, but mafia doesn't mind if she gets attention. Mike - was in last round Jfg - I don't really think he is mafia. But has a big case of foot in mouth-itus. He's a liability to the town at this point, so I really have no problem voting him off. The only way I see him as mafia is if it is a mafia with no veteran leader(which I'm not ruling out by any means). Carini - out of this group, would have been my 2nd choice.
I'm gonna stick with my belief that the sleepy whack isn't what we should be focusing on in re: mafia. Jimmy I know you like to focus on the voting record instead of what's being said, but the votes can be a form of lie as well. I agree with hakuna's reasoning as far as jfg goes - aside from missing a vote, he's only been defensive and hasn't really done much speculation, so I want to see him in the runoff. I don't mind letting krissy go for now, but she's still on my radar.
