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I wouldn't mind White Panda. I saw them last year after Outkast, I believe, and they put on a damn good show. On a side note, I had a dream last night that the lineup came out and now I am even more disappointed.
Post by Jeremy Jamm on Jan 21, 2015 12:49:34 GMT -5
I thought White Panda put on a good show in 2014, but if they came again I would be kind of disappointed. I mean three years in a row as a late night? Let's get some variety.
Outkast was signed to an exclusive contract with Governors Ball last year that precluded them from performing at any festival in the tristate area. I thought Firefly was close enough to Philly/NJ that it fell within that radius. I turned out to be incorrect on that one.
That's one of my biggest criticisms of Firefly. For a festival that began in 2012, I think they rely far too much on repeat acts.
Not trying to pick a fight but heavily disagree.
Nine or so repeat bands out of something like 243 (don't have time to double check the math) is not relying too much on repeat acts.
Twenty One Pilots were brought back due to popular demand. White Panda and Girl Talk are fairly inexpensive late night acts to rival the other late night stages. The Lumineers had to cancel last minute so they brought them back. Passion Pit had to cancel last minute so they brought them back. Imagine Dragons were booked prior to them exploding, so the seventeen people that had the good fortune of seeing them in 2012 probably didn't mind them coming back. Big G was probably brought back due to popular demand, too.
And Grouplove rock, they can bring them back every year.
So forgive me, but something like 3.5% of acts being repeat is not very high at all for a festival going into it's fourth year.
Outkast was signed to an exclusive contract with Governors Ball last year that precluded them from performing at any festival in the tristate area. I thought Firefly was close enough to Philly/NJ that it fell within that radius. I turned out to be incorrect on that one.
I was really shocked OutKast didnt even have a Philly show and i thought once the tour was announced they would be at Made In America but took a fest in Ireland instead. I am 99.9% sure OutKast is done but do you think there is any shot they play again somewhere in 2015?
Outkast was signed to an exclusive contract with Governors Ball last year that precluded them from performing at any festival in the tristate area. I thought Firefly was close enough to Philly/NJ that it fell within that radius. I turned out to be incorrect on that one.
I was really shocked OutKast didnt even have a Philly show and i thought once the tour was announced they would be at Made In America but took a fest in Ireland instead. I am 99.9% sure OutKast is done but do you think there is any shot they play again somewhere in 2015?
I don't think so. If you read Andre's interviews since their run ended, he absolutely hated that tour. Never say never, but if I had to bet I think last year was the end of Outkast.
That's one of my biggest criticisms of Firefly. For a festival that began in 2012, I think they rely far too much on repeat acts.
Not trying to pick a fight but heavily disagree.
Nine or so repeat bands out of something like 243 (don't have time to double check the math) is not relying too much on repeat acts.
Twenty One Pilots were brought back due to popular demand. White Panda and Girl Talk are fairly inexpensive late night acts to rival the other late night stages. The Lumineers had to cancel last minute so they brought them back. Passion Pit had to cancel last minute so they brought them back. Imagine Dragons were booked prior to them exploding, so the seventeen people that had the good fortune of seeing them in 2012 probably didn't mind them coming back. Big G was probably brought back due to popular demand, too.
And Grouplove rock, they can bring them back every year.
So forgive me, but something like 3.5% of acts being repeat is not very high at all for a festival going into it's fourth year.
Ok, I'll agree that my wording was a bit strong. I guess I have mixed feelings on bringing a band back after they had to cancel the previous year. While it was great for the fans who were looking forward to seeing them the previous year, acts like Imagine Dragons and The Lumineers began to feel very "stale" on the festival circuit by 2014. They were everywhere in 2012 and 2013, and by the time 2014 came around, I think there were much better alternatives for their respective spots on the lineup. Perhaps I got that impression that Firefly loves to book repeats from social media. It's kind of absurd how many people keep asking for the same acts year after year after year.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 21, 2015 14:26:37 GMT -5
As Launchpad noted, contracts generally have a radius clause and based upon the fact that both My Morning Jacket and Florence + the Machine both are all but eliminated from Firefly, it's probably safe to eliminate the top couple lines of Gov. Ball.
2012 only had an attendance of 25,000 people, so it's not really fair to call any of those bands repeats. If there are enough people putting bands like Twenty One Pilots on their request list, I don't see the problem (though the guys really need to work on making some new music). They're only around $25,000 to book last check and they always draw a crowd, which is 1/10 the cost of KoL that a lot of people are indifferent about.
I've always been about the bands after the first couple lines though, so I will be pretty disappointed if Firefly doesn't manage to snag bands so many festivals have gotten, like The War on Drugs, Hozier, Royal Blood, Benjamin Booker, SBTRKT, Belle & Sebastian etc.
My updated guesses, based purely on Launchpad, eliminating top bands from Gov. Ball, tour schedules and overlap from Coachella/Bonnaroo being the most likely are:
The War on Drugs, Hozier, Benjamin Booker, SBTRKT, Belle & Sebastian, Passion Pit, Foster and the People, Snoop Dogg, Sylvan Esso, AWOLNation, Twenty One Pilots, Parquet Courts, Lorde as the token pop act, Porter Robinson, The Avett Brothers, Sturgill Simpson, Run the Jewels, Cage the Elephant, Odesza, M0, Gramatik, Caribou, Flying Lotus and we'll toss in The Decemberists just for the hell of it.
As Launchpad noted, contracts generally have a radius clause and based upon the fact that both My Morning Jacket and Florence + the Machine both are all but eliminated from Firefly, it's probably safe to eliminate the top couple lines of Gov. Ball.
2012 only had an attendance of 25,000 people, so it's not really fair to call any of those bands repeats. If there are enough people putting bands like Twenty One Pilots on their request list, I don't see the problem (though the guys really need to work on making some new music). They're only around $25,000 to book last check and they always draw a crowd, which is 1/10 the cost of KoL that a lot of people are indifferent about.
I've always been about the bands after the first couple lines though, so I will be pretty disappointed if Firefly doesn't manage to snag bands so many festivals have gotten, like The War on Drugs, Hozier, Royal Blood, Benjamin Booker, SBTRKT, Belle & Sebastian etc.
Im praying for at least Royal Blood from that list. Theyre still not that big here so i bet itd be a somewhat small crowd
As Launchpad noted, contracts generally have a radius clause and based upon the fact that both My Morning Jacket and Florence + the Machine both are all but eliminated from Firefly, it's probably safe to eliminate the top couple lines of Gov. Ball.
2012 only had an attendance of 25,000 people, so it's not really fair to call any of those bands repeats. If there are enough people putting bands like Twenty One Pilots on their request list, I don't see the problem (though the guys really need to work on making some new music). They're only around $25,000 to book last check and they always draw a crowd, which is 1/10 the cost of KoL that a lot of people are indifferent about.
I've always been about the bands after the first couple lines though, so I will be pretty disappointed if Firefly doesn't manage to snag bands so many festivals have gotten, like The War on Drugs, Hozier, Royal Blood, Benjamin Booker, SBTRKT, Belle & Sebastian etc.
My friends were actually just talking about how they want Twenty One Pilots to be there again. I feel like they'd be more than 25k now to book though. They've grown quite a bit. On a sidenote I'd love to know if M83 is booked to do any music festivals this summer Launchpad?
I was really shocked OutKast didnt even have a Philly show and i thought once the tour was announced they would be at Made In America but took a fest in Ireland instead. I am 99.9% sure OutKast is done but do you think there is any shot they play again somewhere in 2015?
I don't think so. If you read Andre's interviews since their run ended, he absolutely hated that tour. Never say never, but if I had to bet I think last year was the end of Outkast.
Yea I agree. It was clear Dre hated it since he was wearing the Sold Out tag on his outfits lol. Was hoping they would do Hov a solid and play MIA Philly since they didnt play here at all last year. But either way I got to see em and the show fucking rocked so im cool.