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Before even diving into the music, they claim these listening events were worse than TLOP & Ye’s, which seems absurd. TLOP had models literally standing still on a platform showcasing his latest Yeezy collection, Ye’s had them gathering around a fire while a half baked EP played, and Donda had 3 listening events, each more grand than the last (with him “ascending to heaven” in the 2nd, and rebuilding his childhood home, while also setting himself on fire in the 3rd).
They also state, “the first two iterations of the album featured more vocal clips from Donda West,” but she was literally only on one other song that got cut. They criticize the lack of women on the project, which to me is a lazy critique. How many albums, rock, rap, electronic, country, etc. feature no women at all, yet publications aren’t throwing the same critique at them.
“The album is searching for meaning everywhere and coming up short,” is another lazy critique when you’re not lobbing that at every single hip hop album that’s released. This album constantly touches on where he is at in life right now, as well as sprinkling in fun songs like remote & junya to give you a break from the overarching themes of the loss he still & will always feel from his mother’s abrupt death, the relationship problems with his estranged wife, his Christianity, and the constant beating & criticism he receives from the media (whether you believe it’s deserved or not).
They critique his devotion to Christianity, which is also dumb. If you are religious, you’re still a flawed human who will stumble & won’t always live up to the standard your faith sets for you. Is he supposed to constantly be a saint? Are you not allowed to also show shades of your former self? I think part of the intrigue of this album is that it’s apparent he will always be in conflict with his former self/ego, and his Christianity. He also does a better job here exploring religious themes & spirituality, while making them more palatable for the general listener, while Jesus Is King did not.
Lastly, they claim he hasn’t released a great album in 5 years, as if KSG doesn’t exist. The album that, partially paired with Ye, explores psychedelic & spiritual themes (ego death, rebirth, search for purpose, acceptance of self, etc). The release of KSG (especially the ending lyrics of “lord shine your light on me, save me please”), followed by him scrapping Yandhi, and finally turning to religion to give purpose to his life in a moment of spiritual crisis perfectly allows the listener to sum up where he is today..
I ain’t reading all that I’m happy for you though Or sorry that happened
He reviewed the P4K review, only the score is missing.
He reviewed the P4K review, only the score is missing.
lmao you wanted me to dissect it and then you dont even engage with it? fuck off
No I did not. It's a joke chill.
Seems to me like you're arguing about someone's subjective opinion about certain things (f.e. the listening parties, finding that he hasn't made a great album in 5 years and his devotion to Christianity) within the process of making the album to make an argument as to why your subjective opinion is more right than theirs. I'm sorry, but like.. Finding that Kanye hasn't made a great album in 5 years or finding that the bunch of listening parties he's hosted with this one has been the worst is like.. their opinion against yours. You could make some arguments about his devotion to religion, his choices of featuring problematic figures on his album (and linking that to both what his mother would've thought about the album/his choices and the lack of women within it). The latter is perhaps not really a good argument since, yes, in the grander scheme of things hip hop records tend have made by mostly men though within the context of the album (as an ode to his mother) you could argue it would've made sense to.. let some female rappers, mothers themselves, speak their minds or some shit. I don't know. In the same vain there's probably enough reasons to argue that his devotion doesn't seem sincere or for a lack of better words, not that deep compared to what he did on the already mentioned Jesus Walks for example. But at the end of the day it's your word, with your arguments against someone elses, but that doesn't make their opinion lesser than yours lol.
Donda Chant is one of the worst and skippeable tracks on the whole thing.
I skip it every time but that's just because I can't handle the sheer amount of emotion that that song entails. I get that it's like cathartic for Kanye but it's slightly unnerving to me. But also I think it's kind of hard to understate how well Kanye captured the feeling of grief, especially a longing to see/talk to his dead mother
Donda Chant is one of the worst and skippeable tracks on the whole thing.
I skip it every time but that's just because I can't handle the sheer amount of emotion that that song entails. I get that it's like cathartic for Kanye but it's slightly unnerving to me. But also I think it's kind of hard to understate how well Kanye captured the feeling of grief, especially a longing to see/talk to his dead mother
also tried salvaging CLB. There are a couple here I like but man I doubt I will ever listen to this in full again.
Any track that includes both 21 Savage and Project Pat is a go for me. It’s a typical Drake album. Has some songs that I will be replaying over time, but the album as a whole is ok.