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Basically, there is every level of Kanye here. The beautiful, the ugly, the jaw dropping beat shifts and the cringe worthy lyrics. Songs range from A+ to D and hit almost every grade in between. It's really a tough album to quantify.
This about hits the nail on the head.
Here's how I would edit the album:
Ultralight Beam Only One Father Stretch My Hands (make one track, and get someone other than Desiigner to rap in the latter half) Famous Fade FourFiveSeconds I Love Kanye Real Friends NMPILA 30 Hours (Soundcloud version + Andre 3000's harmonizing) Wolves (take out the repetitive "unfollow/unswallow lines", and maybe keep Vic and Sia's parts in - I haven't heard that version so I can't really comment on it)
If this were the tracklist, I probably wouldn't skip a single song. Go ahead and bitch at me for including Only One and FourFiveSeconds, but I really feel that they were great songs that fit the lighter gospel-y sound that we hear on ULB. A lot of TLOP is weighed down by some of what I consider to be some of Ye's worst cuts (FML, Freestyle 4), and admittedly I'm not a fan of trap so I find that its influence in this album takes away from it.
But as much as I'd like to dream, I just can't get into about half of TLOP. Maybe it'll grow on me, but now that my hype has died down, I've found that I've probably listened to the album about ten times and still can't remember something like half the tracks. A lot of them are just really forgettable, with a few great moments sprinkled among them.
Last Edit: Feb 16, 2016 17:26:43 GMT -5 by Jaz - Back to Top
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Post by bansheebeat on Feb 16, 2016 18:36:02 GMT -5
Kanye Tweets something with annotations and then deletes it.
HHH debates whether Kanye has a ghostwriter for his Tweets - https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/461oor/during_kanyes_latest_twitter_rant_he_posted_a/
I actually love that song BECAUSE of that line. The song ends with "I wanna wake up with you in my eyes".
The whole album is back and forth between being a fuck up, searching for redemption, finding redemption, and then being a fuck up again. Rinse wash repeat. There is a very coherent conflict and the contrast is definitely intentional.
I actually love that song BECAUSE of that line. The song ends with "I wanna wake up with you in my eyes".
The whole album is back and forth between being a fuck up, searching for redemption, finding redemption, and then being a fuck up again. Rinse wash repeat. There is a very coherent conflict and the contrast is definitely intentional.
Post by Fozzie Bear on Feb 17, 2016 9:18:06 GMT -5
The album has really grown on me after four listens. I do wish it was a bit more cohesive and some songs were more fleshed-out, but there's plenty here to love.
The album has really grown on me after four listens. I do wish it was a bit more cohesive and some songs were more fleshed-out, but there's plenty here to love.
Post by manoverboard on Feb 17, 2016 10:11:37 GMT -5
I think a C+ is a pretty accurate score for this album.
Sure there are a few gems on here - Ultralight Beams, Feedback, FML, Real Friends, 30 Hours - but overall the album is kind of a mess. Wayyyy too much filler I think; it's an 18 track album that can be cut down to 11 easily. And really the lyrics are what really hurt this album for me. It's like he isnt even trying anymore.
For everyone criticizing this album for having "filler", when's the last time you listened to College Dropout or Late Registration?
College Dropout Filler: Intro, Graduation Day, I'll Fly Away, Workout Plan & New Workout Plan, every School Spirit and Lil Jimmy
Late Registration Filler: Four skits, Wake Up, I personally don't like Celebration, Addiction or My Way Home that much either.
Also think Highlights is being overlooked. I love that song.
Hey I like New Workout Plan! lol
But yeah those first two records had filler on it, which is why they are my least listened to Kanye albums.
That's why I prefer 808s, MBDTF and Yeezus. No interludes or skits, just 11 or so songs that flow together nicely and as a whole body of work. This album doesnt have that cohesive flow. It sounds like some of these songs were written/recorded years apart from each other.
The only track that MAY be considered filler on CD is Breathe In, Breathe Out, and even that had some really funny lines in it. The skits and interludes in that album are still hilarious, and they help the album flow. And Never Let Me Down might be one of the best tracks on that album - all three of them GO IN on that song. I was gonna quote some lines but there's too many good ones. There are valid arguments for filler on LR and Graduation, but regardless, y'all are crazy. There's a difference between a couple of filler songs and half an album of them.
New Version of wolves is so great. Most people rank breathe in breathe out in the worst kanye songs but even at that its still fun. Id agrue anyone who say drunk and hot girls in filler too. Yeah its super dumb but so what. I don't ever find myself skipping it.
edit: spaceship, gone and never let me down are as damn near perfect as you can get
And instead of saying all of your goodbyes - let them know you realize that life goes fast - It's hard to make the good things last-you realize the sun doesn't go down - It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round