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Macca >>>> Radiohead (ticket sales wise) Mumford will sell more tickets than RHCP
Petty will sell about the same as Phish, because of who he's paired with.
Then look at the next 4 lines and how hot some of these bands are.
I hear a lot of you saying it won't, but you won't even bet a beer on it. (2 did)
I'm betting money on it. I'm buying extras to list as soon as it sells out to pay for my trip.
Also, it's coming off a year with amazing weather and that should bring more repeats than usual.
Again, how is this not scalping?
Surfbum is easily my favorite alt/parody account. Florida Pickup Artist/Ticket Scalper/Self-Righteous Scuzzball/Amateur Magician. Fucking love it. If whoever is running this account outs themselves then drinks are on me at the next Roo.
Does anyone give phi any shit for being opportunistic and getting free ticksts to festivals by utilizing social media? No because there is nothing wrong with what he is doing. He is working for what he gets. I am also. It's different, but no less ethical.
Nope. I want no part of this. Undragging myself right up out of here. Though I'm definitely confused how what I do is anything similar to scalping. I can assure anyone while yes my "ticket" to the festival is free, I incur expenses at every festival I go to that more than exceeds the cost of a ticket.
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Nov 26, 2014 7:27:11 GMT -5
Other facts about Surfbum I assume to be true: Surfbum reclines his seat on short flights. Surfbum pees on the seat. Surfbum waves money at bartenders. Surfbum wears Ed Hardy. Surfbum tips 12%.
Macca >>>> Radiohead (ticket sales wise) Mumford will sell more tickets than RHCP
Petty will sell about the same as Phish, because of who he's paired with.
Then look at the next 4 lines and how hot some of these bands are.
I hear a lot of you saying it won't, but you won't even bet a beer on it. (2 did)
I'm betting money on it. I'm buying extras to list as soon as it sells out to pay for my trip.
Also, it's coming off a year with amazing weather and that should bring more repeats than usual.
Again, how is this not scalping?
Surfbum is easily my favorite alt/parody account. Florida Pickup Artist/Ticket Scalper/Self-Righteous Scuzzball/Amateur Magician. Fucking love it. If whoever is running this account outs themselves then drinks are on me at the next Roo.
I bought a package of VIP tickets from someone at a discounted prices and sold them for below face value and ended up going for free.
The breakdown:
5 VIP tickets, 2 VIP tent city tents, and 2 parking passes for $2800.
Sold a pair and a parking pass 1400$ Sold a single VIP pass for 590 Sold one VIP Tent City tent for 250 and donated half to QSAROO Sold the other VIP tent city tent for 600
That's how.
How did I buy the package for 2800? Well this group of 5 people went in 2012 and on Thursday night got their tents ransacked and all their stuff wrecked or stolen (in GA) They got in touch with Bonnaroo and bonnaroo gave them this VIP package to make up for it.
How did I end up finding this out? Well since everyone knows me as a ticket guy, and these people had a package they didn't want (they'll never go back to Bonnaroo because of their awful experience) and we have a mutual friend, our friend put us in touch with each other.
Does anyone give phi any shit for being opportunistic and getting free ticksts to festivals by utilizing social media? No because there is nothing wrong with what he is doing. He is working for what he gets. I am also. It's different, but no less ethical.
Nope. I want no part of this. Undragging myself right up out of here. Though I'm definitely confused how what I do is anything similar to scalping. I can assure anyone while yes my "ticket" to the festival is free, I incur expenses at every festival I go to that more than exceeds the cost of a ticket.
I never said you had anything to do with scalping. I said you worked for your tickets. That's the comparison. I also work for my tickets, in a different way.
And to say you have other expenses goes without saying. We all do. There is more to going to a show than just the price of admission when it comes to cost.
Other facts about Surfbum I assume to be true: Surfbum reclines his seat on short flights. Surfbum pees on the seat. Surfbum waves money at bartenders. Surfbum wears Ed Hardy. Surfbum tips 12%.
It's funny to me that I have posted several good things I've done here in this thread that can be confirmed with well respected members of this forum if one was so inclined, yet all that is being done is people digging up old posts that could be misconstrued as me doing something shitty. When I present a truthful, reasonable and good explanation that is contrary to what they assumed, it goes unnoticed. Keep digging though.
Here is a true statement:
In the past 2 years I have sold one pair of tickets over face value, and it was for a very good reason and I hated doing it. Here goes:
I bought a pair of tickets to Macca in Jacksonville presale on the floor, center, 10 rows back. I was very excited about going. It got postponed. Prices were hovering around 1500$ a ticket for what I had, and I wasn't selling. Summertime came and I promised my kids a vacation. I hadn't been able to take them on a vacation for 4 years, since my youngest daughter (of 3 - of which I'm a single dad) got diagnosed with Leukemia. Well, my car broke down and I needed to buy a new one and I didn't have the money for both a vacation and a new car. So I sold the tickets to a very appreciative person for 800. Total. Not 800$ each (half of going price) 800$ total. He was so happy he was beside himself. So I got my new car and didn't disappoint my kids.
This is the last post I'm going to make on this subject. What I do isn't bad. It's not wrong. I too am a music lover and because of me being a single dad, without working different angles and avenues if never get to go to a show. But I always, ALWAYS, keep in mind what it's like to be a music fan and my frustrations with scalpers boosting priced by controlling supply and demand. I buy, sell, trade and otherwise broker tickets in a way that doesn't break any laws (tax laws or otherwise), doesn't add to the rising ticket price problem and keeps the music fan in mind when doing so. Like I said, I give away tons of tickets for free. Because I get them for free sometimes.
Stop pretending you know what I do or how I do it and attacking me based on your completely incorrect assumptions. It''s judgmental and bigoted.
Please take my sincere advice: Just stop posting in this thread. I'm embarrassed for you.
You feel sorry for me because people are making bad assumptions and being judgmental about things they no nothing about?
Ya, ok.
No, I am embarrassed for you because of your posts, not because of other people's posts. That wouldn't make any sense. Please, leave this thread, I beg of you.
You feel sorry for me because people are making bad assumptions and being judgmental about things they no nothing about?
Ya, ok.
No, I am embarrassed for you because of your posts, not because of other people's posts. That wouldn't make any sense. Please, leave this thread, I beg of you.
I said you essentially admitted to being a scalper, which I based on this post in which you said you "buy and sell tickets" for profit. Notice that you said nothing about getting free or reduced price tickets that you sell at or below face value or give away, so it should be pretty obvious why some of us read "scalper" into that.
I'm not assuming anything about you. I'm telling you how this appears from one person's perspective.
Perspective - a particular attitude toward or way of regarding something; a point of view.
Assumption - a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.
Your perspective came from an assumption.
I can totally see how my post could be taken as I'm a scalper. However, instead of saying "scalping is shitty, are you charging crazy prices and screwing music lovers?" You jumped to the conclusion that I was based on partial information and past experiences.
Now it's not totally your fault, I should have been more sensitive to the fact that someone was going to take exception to what I do and misunderstand it. I could have been more forthcoming.
I'll give up one way. I work for a company with a connection to all the venues in the area that go through one promotional company. It's a lot of venues. Sometimes people, knowing that I get amazing seats for everything, come to me and say "hey, can you get me tickets to Dave Matthews? I'll make it worth your while" and I get them tickets and they pay me, or give me a pair if they bought 4, or give me merchandise from their store which I turn around and sell.
That's one example. There are other ways I make things happen.
Well, as long as we are defining words, how about: Inference - the act or process of reaching a conclusion about something from known facts or evidence.
I'd say what I did was infer that you were a scalper based on the known fact that you buy and sell tickets for profit.
Or how about: Condescending - having or showing a feeling of patronizing superiority.
As in, "Hey, your post that I quoted is unjustifiably condescending."
You said that instead of asking whether you charge crazy prices, I immediately jumped to the conclusion that you were a scalper. While I will agree that based on your admission that you "buy and sell tickets" for profit, I thought it was likely you were a scalper, I think that if you go back and look, you'll find that my first post in this conversation was this one:
So, you make a profit selling tickets at or below face value?
While there's a certain amount of disbelief already in that post, it was pretty close to "scalping is shitty, are you charging crazy prices and screwing music lovers?" So when you say I didn't say that, I feel like you are wrong.
Regardless, my question opened the door for you to say something like, "well, I have a sweet hookup through my work, so I can sometimes get tickets at a reduced price, which I then turn around and sell at face value, so I still make a profit and everybody wins." Instead, you said
Almost all of it comes at or below face. As a matter of fact I give away about as many tickets as I sell. No kidding, no exaggeration. I have given away literally hundreds of tickets for FREE. To big shows.
Now, first of all, "almost all" isn't all, so even accepting that everything you said here is true, you said that sometimes, you do scalp them. Again, not assuming anything, just inferring based on what you said.
But second, this response just screams bullshit. It's vague and self-aggrandizing. When you add in "No kidding, no exaggeration," well, come on, you might as well have said, "honest, I'm not lying." There's not a much quicker way to make people think you aren't honest.
If you're going to be an ass, might as well own it. Good for you.
Right. Because reclining a seat that was designed for reclining makes someone an ass. You must not have many friends with such a high threshold for "appropriate" behavior.