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I went through the exercise early yesterday and ended up around 350/351 or so. I didn't put in my credit card info but instead logged off. No doubt there will be some good shit for the 15th, but I said fuck it. Considering the very slim chance I would go back (particularly this year) I'm just going to have to wait and see what's on the lineup.
At least they inspired me enough to go to my account. For Hangout, I have to keep telling myself the Wailers are playing. And Snails. And Florence. Had I known how dissatisfied I would have been in advance, no way would I have purchased alumni. You win some you lose some. We definitely lost this year. I'm down to about 65/35 going. If it sells out early, particularly in light of the people I have heard saying how great the lineup is (niece and others that don't go to festivals or have any musical sense), the streak is gonna end at 4. Else it will be ending (for now) at 5.
This will be my 6th and probably last. It was damn good while it lasted!
It's funny because we probably cross around 25-35% of sets in a given year. There was someone last year (possibly zen or Jackwagon) where we only had one show crossed between our sets. But we were both satisfied - as you and I have been despite what either of us would or wouldn't see. It kind of sucks, because I'm pretty easy to please provided I have an alternative to pop.
Check out Muddy Magnolias. Looks like a black girl and white girl singing duo with a 3 or 4 piece backing band. They are sort of Little Feat meets Shakes meets Mississippi Delta meets Tennessee meets Dixie Chicks. They were one of the few acts I liked that I didn't already know. That exercise was somewhat depressing but assuming they aren't an 1130am set, I'd probably wander by there for a couple of songs.
I met the Muddy Magnolias outside the Capital Building in downtown Austin. They were incredibly nice. They just did their set at ACL and were flying out that morning but we got to cypher a bit with a friend of theirs and chat about fest jargon. I'm def seeing them.
l hope not, but a hurricane or equal bad weather event at Hangout would cost the promoters a lot. I believe the incident at the Sugarland festival opened a lot of eyes to festival risk. I thought Hangout was managing their risk pretty well, but heard they were losing money. It'll be interesting to see how the dramatic change in lineup, headliners, focus group, will make on Hangout this year. Boom or bust?
l hope not, but a hurricane or equal bad weather event at Hangout would cost the promoters a lot. I believe the incident at the Sugarland festival opened a lot of eyes to festival risk. I thought Hangout was managing their risk pretty well, but heard they were losing money. It'll be interesting to see how the dramatic change in lineup, headliners, focus group, will make on Hangout this year. Boom or bust?
I am getting the feeling that GV reviewed the financials and said, "We aren't making enough moooooooooooonnnnneeeeeyyyyyy".
Would be my guess that HOMF broke even or took a loss on the festival in the first 5 years. Hence selling a part of the brand to GV, and turning it into more of an investment. Just another proverbial mouth to feed at the dinner table for them this year and that new guest likes lobster and filet!
Post by discoannak on Nov 30, 2015 16:59:04 GMT -5
Afternoon! Saw Robert Delong over the weekend. That dude is awesome.freaking crazy one man band plus dj. But I digress.
Coleman Hell opened for him and...well..ugh no.
It's like mediocre tunes with a terrible singer and even weirder lyrics. It was just so boring. Don’t be tricked by the song on the radio right now, none of the other songs sound like it. Guy has a good stage presence just zero talent? Anyway if they are a conflict for anyone at this year's fest go with the other band. Trust me.
Afternoon! Saw Robert Delong over the weekend. That dude is awesome.freaking crazy one man band plus dj. But I digress.
Coleman Hell opened for him and...well..ugh no.
It's like mediocre tunes with a terrible singer and even weirder lyrics. It was just so boring. Don’t be tricked by the song on the radio right now, none of the other songs sound like it. Guy has a good stage presence just zero talent? Anyway if they are a conflict for anyone at this year's fest go with the other band. Trust me.
Every time his one song comes on, I turn it as soon as I can. Hopefully he is really early on the schedule!
I went through the exercise early yesterday and ended up around 350/351 or so. I didn't put in my credit card info but instead logged off. No doubt there will be some good shit for the 15th, but I said fuck it. Considering the very slim chance I would go back (particularly this year) I'm just going to have to wait and see what's on the lineup.
At least they inspired me enough to go to my account. For Hangout, I have to keep telling myself the Wailers are playing. And Snails. And Florence. Had I known how dissatisfied I would have been in advance, no way would I have purchased alumni. You win some you lose some. We definitely lost this year. I'm down to about 65/35 going. If it sells out early, particularly in light of the people I have heard saying how great the lineup is (niece and others that don't go to festivals or have any musical sense), the streak is gonna end at 4. Else it will be ending (for now) at 5.
This will be my 6th and probably last. It was damn good while it lasted!
It looks as though a good many of the posters on this thread are thinking of calling it quits after this year, myself included. That is a sad outcome, but inevitable I guess. Since I've somehow managed, year after year, to miss out on meeting most of you, I'll make a point of trying to contact as many as I can to meet up for a show or drinks somewhere. It has, indeed, been a sweet ride.
This will be my 6th and probably last. It was damn good while it lasted!
It looks as though a good many of the posters on this thread are thinking of calling it quits after this year, myself included. That is a sad outcome, but inevitable I guess. Since I've somehow managed, year after year, to miss out on meeting most of you, I'll make a point of trying to contact as many as I can to meet up for a show or drinks somewhere. It has, indeed, been a sweet ride.
I've gone to bat for THE Hangout in the other threads for people that don't get it, and I've always loved every second of going, so I'm a big fan. And meeting many of you has been great. But if I decide not to go this year because of the lackluster lineup, or at least after this year, it's actually a little freeing in a way. Because it probably means that I'll choose another festival instead of Hangout. And since I would have to replace a long drive with a flight I can basically go anywhere. So I will probably end up choosing a festival that I've never been to based solely on lineup. So that's pretty cool, and gives me almost limitless possibilities. And that makes all of the lineup drops even more exciting.
It looks as though a good many of the posters on this thread are thinking of calling it quits after this year, myself included. That is a sad outcome, but inevitable I guess. Since I've somehow managed, year after year, to miss out on meeting most of you, I'll make a point of trying to contact as many as I can to meet up for a show or drinks somewhere. It has, indeed, been a sweet ride.
I've gone to bat for THE Hangout in the other threads for people that don't get it, and I've always loved every second of going, so I'm a big fan. And meeting many of you has been great. But if I decide not to go this year because of the lackluster lineup, or at least after this year, it's actually a little freeing in a way. Because it probably means that I'll choose another festival instead of Hangout. And since I would have to replace a long drive with a flight I can basically go anywhere. So I will probably end up choosing a festival that I've never been to based solely on lineup. So that's pretty cool, and gives me almost limitless possibilities. And that makes all of the lineup drops even more exciting.
I'm sorta with you, but like everyone on here i've been to a lot of festivals and having a beachfront condo walking distance to the gate is hard to beat as far as festival venues go. But, obviously it is possible to construct a lineup that makes it not worth it. The group i had coming to HO are non-campers so i'm thinking about getting them to Forecastle. I haven't been since they changed parks.
It looks as though a good many of the posters on this thread are thinking of calling it quits after this year, myself included. That is a sad outcome, but inevitable I guess. Since I've somehow managed, year after year, to miss out on meeting most of you, I'll make a point of trying to contact as many as I can to meet up for a show or drinks somewhere. It has, indeed, been a sweet ride.
I've gone to bat for THE Hangout in the other threads for people that don't get it, and I've always loved every second of going, so I'm a big fan. And meeting many of you has been great. But if I decide not to go this year because of the lackluster lineup, or at least after this year, it's actually a little freeing in a way. Because it probably means that I'll choose another festival instead of Hangout. And since I would have to replace a long drive with a flight I can basically go anywhere. So I will probably end up choosing a festival that I've never been to based solely on lineup. So that's pretty cool, and gives me almost limitless possibilities. And that makes all of the lineup drops even more exciting.
I've gone to bat for THE Hangout in the other threads for people that don't get it, and I've always loved every second of going, so I'm a big fan. And meeting many of you has been great. But if I decide not to go this year because of the lackluster lineup, or at least after this year, it's actually a little freeing in a way. Because it probably means that I'll choose another festival instead of Hangout. And since I would have to replace a long drive with a flight I can basically go anywhere. So I will probably end up choosing a festival that I've never been to based solely on lineup. So that's pretty cool, and gives me almost limitless possibilities. And that makes all of the lineup drops even more exciting.
I don't see how these fests are losing that much money with how much fucking money they charge to get in, for booze, merch, licensing etc.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. These fests are prob embezzeling a ton of money. At least Hangout. Shaul is known as a very sheisty individual, and I can first-hand state that I've seen dudes that look like they are related to him on the beach with massive bags of bootleg tshirts. Just a drop in the bucket but who knows how much other shit goes on behind the scenes?
Yeah I'm still just as excited for this year because there's enough on there to entertain me, especially when combined with the scenery but it's just shifting now to being lineup dependent as opposed to a guarantee every year. Like this year I had my flights and condo done by October. That won't happen next year. Maybe the condo since it's refundable but the rest will be lineup dependent.
I don't see how these fests are losing that much money with how much fucking money they charge to get in, for booze, merch, licensing etc.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. These fests are prob embezzeling a ton of money. At least Hangout. Shaul is known as a very sheisty individual, and I can first-hand state that I've seen dudes that look like they are related to him on the beach with massive bags of bootleg tshirts. Just a drop in the bucket but who knows how much other shit goes on behind the scenes?
Totally, if the Hangout lost money in any year other than 2010, then something is way off on the business side.
I don't see how these fests are losing that much money with how much fucking money they charge to get in, for booze, merch, licensing etc.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. These fests are prob embezzeling a ton of money. At least Hangout. Shaul is known as a very sheisty individual, and I can first-hand state that I've seen dudes that look like they are related to him on the beach with massive bags of bootleg tshirts. Just a drop in the bucket but who knows how much other shit goes on behind the scenes?
Totally, if the Hangout lost money in any year other than 2010, then something is way off on the business side.
Someone posted before the 2015 another forum discussing that owner and money laundering and Hezbollah. We had about 10+ popular bars in austin close down for the same......
This a risk in a lot of ways. As a local, I can tell you straight up that Gulf Shores is very sensitive to the kinds of problems that tend to come with a less mature crowd. An uptick in drug arrests, upset property owners who've had their condos destroyed, and restaurant servers who've been repeatedly stiffed on tips will go a long way to putting an end to the festival. Every year there is a crowd at the City Hall meeting right after the fest, and renewal of its permits is never a shoe-in. Combine that with what I think is the very real potential Hangout will make a lot less on alcohol, food and merch sales. Better to keep a fest that appeals to a broader range of generations than to go all-in with the Panama City spring break crowd. There is a reason Gulf Shores is not much of a spring break party destination: Because we don't want to be.