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Another "pop" act(s) I'd be more than stoked to see...while I feel like HOF isn't big enough for this, Flaming Lips seem to favor the fest so......it could happen.
how is that Copach-esque? We actually have reason to believe Muse and/or Arcade Fire could play and its not like they are some big rare acts anyway and VW is perfect for Hangout (though im personally not much of a fan). Yea Macca is a shot in the dark but i wouldnt exactly rule him out seeing he just played Firefly. The rest the only reaches i can think of is Prdyz (just trying to change the main EDM up each time). The others have been seen at multiple fests plenty over the years or would be much lower on the card
Just don't think it's mainstream enough to cater to the demo. Change is needed sometimes to alter the direction of the culture of a fest but going from a rather mainstream regional fest lineup to Coach-lite in year one will not help ticket sales. I bet they play it safe next year but enough bang to get a sellout the fest has needed and create ticket scarcity so they can start jacking up prices at a faster rate. Over time though, I bet HOF 17-19 looks a lot like your mock and God I hope so because I hate most local tweens who go and hopefully will be priced out and reluctant based on taste.
how is that Copach-esque? We actually have reason to believe Muse and/or Arcade Fire could play and its not like they are some big rare acts anyway and VW is perfect for Hangout (though im personally not much of a fan). Yea Macca is a shot in the dark but i wouldnt exactly rule him out seeing he just played Firefly. The rest the only reaches i can think of is Prdyz (just trying to change the main EDM up each time). The others have been seen at multiple fests plenty over the years or would be much lower on the card
Just don't think it's mainstream enough to cater to the demo. Change is needed sometimes to alter the direction of the culture of a fest but going from a rather mainstream regional fest lineup to Coach-lite in year one will not help ticket sales. I bet they play it safe next year but enough bang to get a sellout the fest has needed and create ticket scarcity so they can start jacking up prices at a faster rate. Over time though, I bet HOF 17-19 looks a lot like your mock and God I hope so because I hate most local tweens who go and hopefully will be priced out and reluctant based on taste.
I think all our mocks are slightly mainstream given we are so far out from what will be actually booked. It is kind of a failure by design I suppose.
Next Hangout Title (in 3 weeks) Shred til' your dead; Mock til you drop (the lineup)
how is that Copach-esque? We actually have reason to believe Muse and/or Arcade Fire could play and its not like they are some big rare acts anyway and VW is perfect for Hangout (though im personally not much of a fan). Yea Macca is a shot in the dark but i wouldnt exactly rule him out seeing he just played Firefly. The rest the only reaches i can think of is Prdyz (just trying to change the main EDM up each time). The others have been seen at multiple fests plenty over the years or would be much lower on the card
Just don't think it's mainstream enough to cater to the demo. Change is needed sometimes to alter the direction of the culture of a fest but going from a rather mainstream regional fest lineup to Coach-lite in year one will not help ticket sales. I bet they play it safe next year but enough bang to get a sellout the fest has needed and create ticket scarcity so they can start jacking up prices at a faster rate. Over time though, I bet HOF 17-19 looks a lot like your mock and God I hope so because I hate most local tweens who go and hopefully will be priced out and reluctant based on taste.
def lacked some mainstream/mtv stuff, im running out of new acts like that to think of that i didnt use yet lol. Plus we had the lower mid part of the card the heaviest with the pop-ish stuff last year but then again the year before we had we more rock and even garage rock so i really have no clue what we are in store for.
Just don't think it's mainstream enough to cater to the demo. Change is needed sometimes to alter the direction of the culture of a fest but going from a rather mainstream regional fest lineup to Coach-lite in year one will not help ticket sales. I bet they play it safe next year but enough bang to get a sellout the fest has needed and create ticket scarcity so they can start jacking up prices at a faster rate. Over time though, I bet HOF 17-19 looks a lot like your mock and God I hope so because I hate most local tweens who go and hopefully will be priced out and reluctant based on taste.
I think all our mocks are slightly mainstream given we are so far out from what will be actually booked. It is kind of a failure by design I suppose.
Next Hangout Title (in 3 weeks) Shred til' your dead; Mock til you drop (the lineup)
Paul McCartney – Arcade Fire – Muse - Vampire Weekend
Lana Del Ray – Eric Prydz – Jamie xx – Flume
Interpol – Jurassic 5 - Knife Party – St. Vincent
Alkaline Trio - Dog Blood – The War On Drugs – Grimes
Gaslight Anthem – Joe Russos Almost Dead – Dillon Francis – Miguel
Courtney Barnett – Punch Brothers – Failure
Common – Local Natives – The Chris Robinson Brotherhood
Trippy Turtle – SZA – Violent Femmes
Stars – Bro Safari – American Football
DJ Mustard – Hot 8 Brass Band – Destructo
Pig Pen Theatre Co. – Blue, The Misfit – Dale Earnhart Jr. Jr.
Where's the hip hop?
J5, Blue, The Misfit....it's a hip hop sandwich. Throw in some random Wu-Tang member, Chance, and Har Mar Superstar under his rap alias MC Belly Bangerz
Edit: Just noticing Common, DJ Mustard could bring on some random rapper
I dig it and would be down for it, but that's a drastic shift from past lineups.
What band on here is not similar to anything from past lineups?
Similar but slightly down the relativity scale that's all. I would bet you could poll all previous hangout goers and more than half would have no clue who Jamie XX, Eric Prydz, and St Vincent were.
Just don't think it's mainstream enough to cater to the demo. Change is needed sometimes to alter the direction of the culture of a fest but going from a rather mainstream regional fest lineup to Coach-lite in year one will not help ticket sales. I bet they play it safe next year but enough bang to get a sellout the fest has needed and create ticket scarcity so they can start jacking up prices at a faster rate. Over time though, I bet HOF 17-19 looks a lot like your mock and God I hope so because I hate most local tweens who go and hopefully will be priced out and reluctant based on taste.
def lacked some mainstream/mtv stuff, im running out of new acts like that to think of that i didnt use yet lol. Plus we had the lower mid part of the card the heaviest with the pop-ish stuff last year but then again the year before we had we more rock and even garage rock so i really have no clue what we are in store for.
Yea it's tough. That's why repeats happen more often that one would think. Mocks are fun to do though. A couple more EDM and Hip-Hop acts though would have topped it off for sure.
2010 - ZBB/ John Legend / TAB with Allison Krauss / Jerry Jeff Walker (didn't show) / North Mississippi Allstars / Black Crowes / Ray La Montagne / Government Mule and others 2011 - WSP/ Foo Fighters / Paul Simon/ with Black Keys / Warren Haynes / Avett Brothers / Railroad Earth / Medeski Martin and Wood / Greensky Bluegrass / Grace Potter and others 2012 - Jack White / RHCP / DMB with Alabama Shakes / Steve Winwood / Gary Clark Jr / Chris Cornell / Dawes / Delta Spirit / Coheed and Cambria / Swithfoot/ 2013 - KOL / Tom Petty / Stevie Wonder with Black Crowes / Jason Isbell and 400 Unit / The Weeks / Moe /Government Mule back that up 2014 - The Black Keys / The Killers / Outkast with Iron and Wine, Jamestown Revival / Black Cadillacs / Trombone Shorty / Valerie June / St Paul and the Broken Bones / 2015 - Foo Fighters / ZBB / Sam Smith (didn't show) with Paramore / Preservation Hall Band / Spoon / St Lucia / The Word / MMJ / Jeff the Brotherhood and others
2016 - (alternative - someone like KOL/Jack White/TAB/RHCP)/ (Rock - someone like Petty/Foo Fighters/Killers/Black Keys) / Chill - someone like (DMB/Stevie/Paul Simon/) would seem the most likely to me. Outkast, Sam Smith, and even ZBB are outliers. The lack of bluegrass, soul, jam, folk, songwriter, Americana...leads me to believe they wont be very close to the final list.
I don't see Hangout changing a lot even with GV as this progression over the years has proven to work, safe and the people of Gulf Shores have given their thumbs up.
On another subject - what festival that is similar to Hangout in size and more folk-jammy like Peach Fest allows you to get a condo or hotel within easy walking distance, weather isn't too bad, cost about the same, and within 1000 miles of Nashville, TN? I'm still checking into that festival in Raleigh NC and it looks promising.
What band on here is not similar to anything from past lineups?
Similar but slightly down the relativity scale that's all. I would bet you could poll all previous hangout goers and more than half would have no clue who Jamie XX, Eric Prydz, and St Vincent were.
I bet there are more than 3 bands at every festival that 50% of attendees have never heard of...? In fact, most bands would be pretty happy with that kind of name rec.
Similar but slightly down the relativity scale that's all. I would bet you could poll all previous hangout goers and more than half would have no clue who Jamie XX, Eric Prydz, and St Vincent were.
I bet there are more than 3 bands at every festival that 50% of attendees have never heard of...? In fact, most bands would be pretty happy with that kind of name rec.
3 in the top few lines? I'd be willing to bet that's not the case for any other major festival.
Post by sparkysarah on Aug 19, 2015 15:23:40 GMT -5
I've known of St. Vincent since Actor... kinda thought everyone else did too. Then again, I'm sitting on a thread for a fest that's nine months away. We all might be more into music than the average bear.
I bet there are more than 3 bands at every festival that 50% of attendees have never heard of...? In fact, most bands would be pretty happy with that kind of name rec.
3 in the top few lines? I'd be willing to bet that's not the case for any other major festival.
Not everyone listens to every genre, so I would confidently take that challenge....'few' meaning top 3 lines. I just looked back through the HO lineups and from 2012-15 and there were 8 in the top 3 lines I had never heard of at the time. If the festival is tightly confined in scope, then I would agree. But if it's all over the place like most...And I don't think the average attendee is as fanatic as the people on these boards.
I've known of St. Vincent since Actor... kinda thought everyone else did too. Then again, I'm sitting on a thread for a fest that's nine months away. We all might be more into music than the average bear.
No, I've known her for quite some time and it wasn't until last year that I realized that she isn't very well known. She gained quite a bit more recognition during 2014/2015, but not enough that I'd feel confident in everyone at HOF knowing her.
2010 - ZBB/ John Legend / TAB with Allison Krauss / Jerry Jeff Walker (didn't show) / North Mississippi Allstars / Black Crowes / Ray La Montagne / Government Mule and others 2011 - WSP/ Foo Fighters / Paul Simon/ with Black Keys / Warren Haynes / Avett Brothers / Railroad Earth / Medeski Martin and Wood / Greensky Bluegrass / Grace Potter and others 2012 - Jack White / RHCP / DMB with Alabama Shakes / Steve Winwood / Gary Clark Jr / Chris Cornell / Dawes / Delta Spirit / Coheed and Cambria / Swithfoot/ 2013 - KOL / Tom Petty / Stevie Wonder with Black Crowes / Jason Isbell and 400 Unit / The Weeks / Moe /Government Mule back that up 2014 - The Black Keys / The Killers / Outkast with Iron and Wine, Jamestown Revival / Black Cadillacs / Trombone Shorty / Valerie June / St Paul and the Broken Bones / 2015 - Foo Fighters / ZBB / Sam Smith (didn't show) with Paramore / Preservation Hall Band / Spoon / St Lucia / The Word / MMJ / Jeff the Brotherhood and others
2016 - (alternative - someone like KOL/Jack White/TAB/RHCP)/ (Rock - someone like Petty/Foo Fighters/Killers/Black Keys) / Chill - someone like (DMB/Stevie/Paul Simon/) would seem the most likely to me. Outkast, Sam Smith, and even ZBB are outliers. The lack of bluegrass, soul, jam, folk, songwriter, Americana...leads me to believe they wont be very close to the final list.
I don't see Hangout changing a lot even with GV as this progression over the years has proven to work, safe and the people of Gulf Shores have given their thumbs up.
On another subject - what festival that is similar to Hangout in size and more folk-jammy like Peach Fest allows you to get a condo or hotel within easy walking distance, weather isn't too bad, cost about the same, and within 1000 miles of Nashville, TN? I'm still checking into that festival in Raleigh NC and it looks promising.
Bob - Can't think of any other festivals that are Condo heavy for lodging. But, we've been to all 6 Hangout's and I've never stayed in a condo. We camp at Gulf State Park. Some city festivals are good. We've been to a few and here are three: Forecastle-- a good one to check out, we've been twice. Sloss Fest -- first year this year and it was great (same weekend as Forecastle), smaller than Forecastle. It was put-on by the same people that started Roo and Forecastle. Good mix of music and very well run. Lollapalooza - It's huge but split up where if you like a genre you can find it and avoid the genres you don't like. Chicago is such a great city. Weather is great and just off Lake Michigan.
2010 - ZBB/ John Legend / TAB with Allison Krauss / Jerry Jeff Walker (didn't show) / North Mississippi Allstars / Black Crowes / Ray La Montagne / Government Mule and others 2011 - WSP/ Foo Fighters / Paul Simon/ with Black Keys / Warren Haynes / Avett Brothers / Railroad Earth / Medeski Martin and Wood / Greensky Bluegrass / Grace Potter and others 2012 - Jack White / RHCP / DMB with Alabama Shakes / Steve Winwood / Gary Clark Jr / Chris Cornell / Dawes / Delta Spirit / Coheed and Cambria / Swithfoot/ 2013 - KOL / Tom Petty / Stevie Wonder with Black Crowes / Jason Isbell and 400 Unit / The Weeks / Moe /Government Mule back that up 2014 - The Black Keys / The Killers / Outkast with Iron and Wine, Jamestown Revival / Black Cadillacs / Trombone Shorty / Valerie June / St Paul and the Broken Bones / 2015 - Foo Fighters / ZBB / Sam Smith (didn't show) with Paramore / Preservation Hall Band / Spoon / St Lucia / The Word / MMJ / Jeff the Brotherhood and others
2016 - (alternative - someone like KOL/Jack White/TAB/RHCP)/ (Rock - someone like Petty/Foo Fighters/Killers/Black Keys) / Chill - someone like (DMB/Stevie/Paul Simon/) would seem the most likely to me. Outkast, Sam Smith, and even ZBB are outliers. The lack of bluegrass, soul, jam, folk, songwriter, Americana...leads me to believe they wont be very close to the final list.
I don't see Hangout changing a lot even with GV as this progression over the years has proven to work, safe and the people of Gulf Shores have given their thumbs up.
On another subject - what festival that is similar to Hangout in size and more folk-jammy like Peach Fest allows you to get a condo or hotel within easy walking distance, weather isn't too bad, cost about the same, and within 1000 miles of Nashville, TN? I'm still checking into that festival in Raleigh NC and it looks promising.
Bob - Can't think of any other festivals that are Condo heavy for lodging. But, we've been to all 6 Hangout's and I've never stayed in a condo. We camp at Gulf State Park. Some city festivals are good. We've been to a few and here are three: Forecastle-- a good one to check out, we've been twice. Sloss Fest -- first year this year and it was great (same weekend as Forecastle), smaller than Forecastle. It was put-on by the same people that started Roo and Forecastle. Good mix of music and very well run. Lollapalooza - It's huge but split up where if you like a genre you can find it and avoid the genres you don't like. Chicago is such a great city. Weather is great and just off Lake Michigan.
Were hotels walking distance at Sloss? ...did Forecastle when it was next to the Galt House and had a blast. We could make a drink in the room and walk down to the shows.
Bob - Can't think of any other festivals that are Condo heavy for lodging. But, we've been to all 6 Hangout's and I've never stayed in a condo. We camp at Gulf State Park. Some city festivals are good. We've been to a few and here are three: Forecastle-- a good one to check out, we've been twice. Sloss Fest -- first year this year and it was great (same weekend as Forecastle), smaller than Forecastle. It was put-on by the same people that started Roo and Forecastle. Good mix of music and very well run. Lollapalooza - It's huge but split up where if you like a genre you can find it and avoid the genres you don't like. Chicago is such a great city. Weather is great and just off Lake Michigan.
Were hotels walking distance at Sloss? ...did Forecastle when it was next to the Galt House and had a blast. We could make a drink in the room and walk down to the shows.
We tried because of the lack of cabs the first night, and there is no Uber in B'ham. We walked about a mile and lucked into a cab for the second mile. Nothing next door to the venue, but a few were a little bit closer than ours was. I think the closest I saw was about 1 1/2 miles out. We drove the second day and just started ponding waters halfway through Primus. They were 2nd to last show of the night. That worked out much better BTW. It was a fun fest, I'd go back.