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I applied for two full-time positions at two different universities. They both have the same system/setup for job applicants, as you can check on the progress of the job opening.
The position I applied for at Virginia Tech went from "In Progress" to "Under review by department" in less than 35 hours. The position I applied for with UNC Greensboro has been "In Progress" for a week now. I much prefer this login system over the generic email: "Thank you for applying. If you meet our qualifications, we will be in touch with you."
I remember when I was sending out applications (at colleges and universities), one of the local colleges sent me a post card 6 months later telling me the position was filled. Gee... thanks? I figured that I wasn't being called in for an interview.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I applied for two full-time positions at two different universities. They both have the same system/setup for job applicants, as you can check on the progress of the job opening.
The position I applied for at Virginia Tech went from "In Progress" to "Under review by department" in less than 35 hours. The position I applied for with UNC Greensboro has been "In Progress" for a week now. I much prefer this login system over the generic email: "Thank you for applying. If you meet our qualifications, we will be in touch with you."
I remember when I was sending out applications (at colleges and universities), one of the local colleges sent me a post card 6 months later telling me the position was filled. Gee... thanks? I figured that I wasn't being called in for an interview.
academia can be ridiculous. i once got a similar email from a job i'd applied to 9 months prior. i was like holy shit, people have made entire human beings in the time it took y'all to get a search committee together. to contrast, i went from applying to my current job in higher ed to being offered in less than 10 days.
Post by burberry142 on Feb 3, 2016 14:20:18 GMT -5
the best part when getting an interview from a university is the elation you feel for the first couple seconds followed by terror when you realize now you have to do a 1-2 full day interview!
okay employed inforoosters, i could used some guidance/advice.
short details: i graduated december of 2014, and i've been looking for full time work in my field since then with no luck. i just got a call offering me an entry level position in my field, and the salary is okay.
BUT, the whole conversation with the HR lady did not make me feel very confident. for starters i don't know what days i would be working. it's a help desk job and i know the hours are 7 am - 7 pm, but when i asked what days i would be working (previously it was sunday, monday, tuesday), she told me "i don't know. i was thinking we'd wait until we all get here and figure it out."
so then i asked for a start date. i've been working for my dad in the meantime and told him i was moving up to st. louis at the end of the month into a place with a friend of mine. i was also planning on going to okeechobee music fest the first weekend of march (DISCLAIMER: i know this isn't important in the long run. i can cancel my volunteer deposit for a full refund before the 15th. i don't want to back out on friends for a 16+ car drive and gas, but anyway.) because of this, when i filled out my application for this position this morning i put 3/9/2016 as my date of availablity. she told me she didn't have a start date, and then after telling her i was already planning on working until the end of the month for my dad and moving to st. louis at the end of the month and "needing a week" to get furniture and get settled in (which is true), she asked if i could start monday the 22nd of this month. i told her i wasn't sure.
she didn't mention any benefits. only the salary. i have no idea what salary i deserve/should shoot for so i'm thinking of asking for a bit more but i don't know if that's kosher or not.
she mentioned that they're trying to get things going quickly because some dude moved up his retirement date. she sounded flustered and kinda desperate. she also implied that if my march 9th start date was concrete that they could work around it.
so i asked her if i could take a day to think it over and talk to some people about it (parents, employed friends, etc). she said sure but didn't sound very happy about it. she then asked if i accepted the position and the salary, and that "the start date is it's own separate thing." i told her i still wanted to think about it. she sounded frustrated with that answer at the end of our conversation.
sorry for rambling. i didn't expect this at all and i'm kinda at a loss of what to do. OBVIOUSLY i'm stoked to have an offer after 12+ months of searching. it's in st. louis where i want to live and it's a good company to start my career with. but not knowing what days i would work, the whole start date thing, no mention of benefits, and the rest makes me a bit nervous about moving forward. i'm already talking to my parents and some close friends who have started careers in the same field already, but i could really use any insight or advice that you guys have to offer. thanks.
so i asked her if i could take a day to think it over and talk to some people about it (parents, employed friends, etc). she said sure but didn't sound very happy about it. she then asked if i accepted the position and the salary, and that "the start date is it's own separate thing." i told her i still wanted to think about it. she sounded frustrated with that answer at the end of our conversation.
I wouldn't read a lot into HR being brash with you. My guess is that department is under a lot of pressure from higher-ups to get the position filled and to get back to the regular work cycle. As far as the salary and if you should ask for more, do some Google research. You can usually get a pretty good idea about how much you should be making by how much education you have + the field you're in.
Post by potentpotables on Feb 10, 2016 19:24:17 GMT -5
moosles dude, you gotta ask the questions that you have - namely, benefits and work days. how can you take a job if you don't know whether you'll have healthcare or some type of 401k? Call HR back, and know your answer depending on those outcomes.
moosles dude, you gotta ask the questions that you have - namely, benefits and work days. how can you take a job if you don't know whether you'll have healthcare or some type of 401k? Call HR back, and know your answer depending on those outcomes.
yeah definitely. that's why it threw me off right away. first question was what are my work days and she told me i don't know. that freaked me out, way more than it should have, and it just kinda fell apart from there. especially since it's my first real job offer.
i don't know why it made me so anxious but i've had time to calm down and i've been mentally working through those questions since. thanks man, i really appreciate it. you too, thepeppers
moosles dude, you gotta ask the questions that you have - namely, benefits and work days. how can you take a job if you don't know whether you'll have healthcare or some type of 401k? Call HR back, and know your answer depending on those outcomes.
This. And don't be afraid to stick to your preferred start date. Giving your current employer (even if it is your dad) the time you said you would and giving yourself some transition time isn't unreasonable.
So, I'm graduating with a bachelor's in emergency and disaster management in a couple months, though I've become burnt out on the subject and have zero interest in pursuing a career in in this field. I'm not getting any younger, and this past year has taught me that despite his best intentions, my husband is but an injury away from me having to be the semester breadwinner for the family. Should I just suck it up and apply for jobs in this field, or should I consider other opportunities (getting another degree, etc.)?
my advice would be to put yourself out there and try it. a lot of people feel what you're feeling after they've been grinding in the classroom for several years. practice feels different than theory, and in my experience the setting and people you end up with are as important as the career path. more than once my passion for my work has been renewed by something a coworker said/did or a project that i enjoyed. them dollas don't hurt, either.
also, check out other jobs that require a bachelor's degree in general, not necessarily in your field, and apply for the ones you're interested in. your academic career has provided you with valuable knowledge and skills that don't only apply to your field of study. think about your best qualities and give yourself a wide range of opportunities to consider.
if you still think you want to go back to school, consider what and whether you can get some real world experience beforehand to gauge your level of interest before paying someone to let you learn about it.
so i wanna give a big thank you to those who provide me with advice in my moment of panic yesterday. had my questions hashed out and ready to go and today's call went much more smoothly. shoutouts to thepepperspotentpotables and burberry142
still don't know work days, but that's not a huge deal for me. it would be nice to know, but i'll make it work. but the pay is good for the position and there's plenty of opportunity for overtime which is really nice. benefits package is active immediately, and i get a decent amount of vacation right away as well.
AND i got my preferred start date, so i don't have to miss okeechobee with my bros! everything worked out about as perfectly as it could have. life is good.
so i wanna give a big thank you to those who provide me with advice in my moment of panic yesterday. had my questions hashed out and ready to go and today's call went much more smoothly. shoutouts to thepepperspotentpotables and burberry142
still don't know work days, but that's not a huge deal for me. it would be nice to know, but i'll make it work. but the pay is good for the position and there's plenty of opportunity for overtime which is really nice. benefits package is active immediately, and i get a decent amount of vacation right away as well.
AND i got my preferred start date, so i don't have to miss okeechobee with my bros! everything worked out about as perfectly as it could have. life is good.
so i wanna give a big thank you to those who provide me with advice in my moment of panic yesterday. had my questions hashed out and ready to go and today's call went much more smoothly. shoutouts to thepepperspotentpotables and burberry142
still don't know work days, but that's not a huge deal for me. it would be nice to know, but i'll make it work. but the pay is good for the position and there's plenty of opportunity for overtime which is really nice. benefits package is active immediately, and i get a decent amount of vacation right away as well.
AND i got my preferred start date, so i don't have to miss okeechobee with my bros! everything worked out about as perfectly as it could have. life is good.
Now to apologize for you moving to St Louis...
actually my dad is from pittsburgh so i've been raised as a steelers/buccos/pens fan since the beginning. assuming that's what you're referring to. have only followed football closely until the last year or so, but recently i've been watching a lot more pirates and penguins games. cards can go die, buccos forever! last season was super exciting, despite the disappointing outcome.
Amen! I'm in the middle of so much suck here in Wisconsin.
We're one of seven states where the economy is actually contracting. My particular area is primarily agriculture/manufacturing, and here I am with a degree. Even then, out of 72 counties in the state, my particular county bore the brunt of 10% of the statewide closures/layoffs in 2015. And I'm not in a position to pull up roots on short or even medium notice, between raising a kid in school and the county party vice chair position (which is basically an unpaid second job.)
County to my west, containing the state capital, is doing alright... bureaucratic jobs and such. More in my Poli Sci degree wheelhouse, but the powers that be rolled back most of our civil service system in favor of turning most of that into political appointments and/or hiring decisions made by political appointees. Got a feeling my 94% on the obsolete state Office Support exam & mistake-free 66wpm didn't matter so much as signing that recall petition & alignment with the opposition/minority party. Two years of in that system only attracted interest from the prison systems, because of course.
In other sectors to my west, Madison's hot private sector businesses are skewing medical information technology... and come with residency requirements I currently consider a dealbreaker. Meanwhile, that county itself strangely doesn't have reaidency requirements, but scoring as high as 96% on some of their job tests only gets the "thanks, but..." reply.
I'm not one to just give up, but I'll be damned if it ain't depressing. My alma mater only offers career services a year after graduation, which is great timing when you get your diploma months before a meltdown, and I've come to consider our Department of Workforce Development less helpful than even the DMV. I'm in the tricky position of having so many skills learned as a volunteer/intern/officer in the political sphere, while trying to neuter my presentation of any of that hoping to increase my chances.
So it's been fun. Thanks for sticking with this vent, if you've made it this far.
I think I'd be remiss without including at least some advice/questions:
To any Political Science majors: have yourself a damn good backup plan; perhaps pursue something else entirely while being involved in other ways. (I've friends with the same degree from the same university stuck in the same pizza delivery rut.)
Substitute teaching experience, anyone? (I've got a friend in Milwaukee trying to lure me into that with him, but with an hour commute and my geographic obligations...)
Going to be a long three weeks. I have my written part of comprehensive exams the 18th - 23rd. My spring break will consist of 12-13 hour study sessions.
One girl in my program who is taking it the same time as I am is currently in Florida living it up. I guess she is better off than I am.
Post by thepeppers on Mar 31, 2016 15:29:46 GMT -5
I received confirmation yesterday that I have been approved to move on to my oral defense of my comprehensive exams! I feel pretty confident at this point because I have a solid relationship with my ruling committee. Even though it looks like I will make it through the comprehensive exam process unharmed (*knock on wood*) it still does not affect my opinion of how shitty it is. There are a few specifics I could get into, but I don't really feel like describing all the situations. My main objective though is unless you are applying for things in the higher education space, nobody knows what the hell comprehensive exams are. Seeing so many programs similar to mine who have adopted a capstone leadership project, in which students can show that off to employers.
Speaking of employers, I am back on the job hunt now that the written segment of COMPS is behind me. I somewhat forgot about how annoying of a process it is. Anybody have any effective strategies on getting responses back after applying? I usually try to connect with somebody on LinkedIn or send an email to HR/head of the department. That has worked for me in the past....but been coming up short as of late.
This thread needs more action! I know there is a group of you trying to finish end of the semester projects, have finals week looming, and are on the job hunt.
So as I have mentioned in other threads, I finally have a phone interview for a full-time position! It's with the university I received my B.S. and M.S. from (Radford). I am trying not to get my hopes up because I have no personal ties with any of the search committee members and I believe they're doing almost ten phone interviews. That being said, this position is heavily social media based and that has been my focus throughout. The interview has a good timing, as I will have just wrapped up a social media advertising campaign for the School of Communication.
I have been somewhat looking forward to moving out of the area, but my main goal is to get a job that is involved in my focus (social media, PR writing, web-editing) and something that provides a sufficient salary, as I am looking forward to getting rid of student loans. One aspect I do find daunting is my phone interview will have four different people connected/asking questions...is that normal? (looking for you billybaroo)
Post by RedFrog Intern on Apr 7, 2016 21:00:14 GMT -5
I think I have yet to mention Im a physics/astrophysics major. Currently studying for a Modern Physics test (special relativity and the like). Finals week is a month away for me!
I think I have yet to mention Im a physics/astrophysics major. Currently studying for a Modern Physics test (special relativity and the like). Finals week is a month away for me!
My roommate was a physics major, and eventually got his PhD in it. I'm an engineering PhD, I took all the maths, plus some physics and all the engineering stuff. I tried some of my roomie's modern physics Hw and it was always a mind quack for me. I had enough underlying knowledge to know that stuff was way harder than anything I wanted to do. Conceptually it was fun to discuss, deriving equations not so much. I draw the line at mechanics and E&M.
Substitute teaching experience, anyone? (I've got a friend in Milwaukee trying to lure me into that with him, but with an hour commute and my geographic obligations...)
Thoughts on LinkedIn?
Old post, but some good talking points.
A guy that graduated from our program last semester has been substitute teaching at his old-school while searching for a full-time position. He said the negatives include having to be available on short-notice and not getting consistent hours...but he said it's easy money when you get the call.
I have mixed feelings on LinkedIn. It's almost necessary now for any somewhat young professional...but I don't think it is worth putting in hours and hours on spicing up the profile page on connecting with everybody you see in a search. I have my settings on private, in which you can browse profiles without people seeing it is you...but by dong that you can't see who's viewing your own profile.
If I apply for a position that's within a rather large company, I usually try to connect with somebody involved with HR/Recruiting. For example, in January the Director of Marketing position was open at the Roanoke arena (operated by Global Spectrum). Even though I was still 6 months away from graduating at the time and the position was looking someone with 7-10 years of experience...I wanted to at least give it a try. I connected with a recruiter for Global Spectrum on LinkedIn, sent him an email about myself and asking for any help he could offer. The next day I received an email from the arena office manager asking to send a resume directly to her. The GM then sent me an email about three days later thanking me for my interest and said he was impressed with everything I had going on (being that I am only 40 minutes from Roanoke, I think he was familiar with some of my internships and projects)...but he said the position had to be filled with somebody with full-time experience. At least I was able to get the right people involved with the position to lay eyes on my resume. Worth noting...I have tried that many other times and not received any response, but every now and again it can make the difference.
I know its not for everyone but i did 8 years military before hitting the civilian job sector. got out at a bad time 2009. but was still able to find OK "jobs" not a career at that point. after awhile i decided to start applying for government jobs and landed an entry level position. within 5 years i have already climbed 3 pay levels. Those of you with degrees it is fairly simple to get into a government job with very little experience. but its something not everyone is aware of or doesn't look into because those jobs are not posted on the traditional job posting websites.
I think I have yet to mention Im a physics/astrophysics major. Currently studying for a Modern Physics test (special relativity and the like). Finals week is a month away for me!
My roommate was a physics major, and eventually got his PhD in it. I'm an engineering PhD, I took all the maths, plus some physics and all the engineering stuff. I tried some of my roomie's modern physics Hw and it was always a mind quack for me. I had enough underlying knowledge to know that stuff was way harder than anything I wanted to do. Conceptually it was fun to discuss, deriving equations not so much. I draw the line at mechanics and E&M.
Think I did good on the test! Sadly, the classes only get harder/more abstract from here.
On a side note, I'm starting a Mechanical Engineering Minor next semester so I'll be taking Statics and Dynamics
Post by NothingButFlowers on Jun 15, 2016 18:01:29 GMT -5
I need a change. I don't exactly know what kind of change. I know I want it to take me out of Nevada, and I think I want it to take me somewhere back in or near the southeast. I don't even know how to start. I've been looking at job listings, and I've applied to a couple of things, but I just see these big lists of random jobs that I'm either not really all that qualified for or not really interested in doing, and I don't know how to point myself in the right direction.
I need a change. I don't exactly know what kind of change. I know I want it to take me out of Nevada, and I think I want it to take me somewhere back in or near the southeast. I don't even know how to start. I've been looking at job listings, and I've applied to a couple of things, but I just see these big lists of random jobs that I'm either not really all that qualified for or not really interested in doing, and I don't know how to point myself in the right direction.
get into pest control. It's easy, pays good for not having a degree, and most companies hire people without experience. I started working for a company 4 years ago. Before I got into it I was a sous chef. I got sick of working nights weekends and holidays. Good luck!
I need a change. I don't exactly know what kind of change. I know I want it to take me out of Nevada, and I think I want it to take me somewhere back in or near the southeast. I don't even know how to start. I've been looking at job listings, and I've applied to a couple of things, but I just see these big lists of random jobs that I'm either not really all that qualified for or not really interested in doing, and I don't know how to point myself in the right direction.
Do you want a completely different line of work? If so, what is it about your current job that you dislike/like?
I need a change. I don't exactly know what kind of change. I know I want it to take me out of Nevada, and I think I want it to take me somewhere back in or near the southeast. I don't even know how to start. I've been looking at job listings, and I've applied to a couple of things, but I just see these big lists of random jobs that I'm either not really all that qualified for or not really interested in doing, and I don't know how to point myself in the right direction.
I feel you. I've been ready for a new job for years now. I've had countless of brainstorming sessions, done all the personality/career inventories, worked through "What Color Is Your Parachute?", and have had the same conversation with tons and tons of friends about it, but I still always find myself at a standstill. I go to look for jobs and I'm just like "meh". I've got no advice for ya, but just wanted to let you know you're not alone.
I need a change. I don't exactly know what kind of change. I know I want it to take me out of Nevada, and I think I want it to take me somewhere back in or near the southeast. I don't even know how to start. I've been looking at job listings, and I've applied to a couple of things, but I just see these big lists of random jobs that I'm either not really all that qualified for or not really interested in doing, and I don't know how to point myself in the right direction.
I feel you. I've been ready for a new job for years now. I've had countless of brainstorming sessions, done all the personality/career inventories, worked through "What Color Is Your Parachute?", and have had the same conversation with tons and tons of friends about it, but I still always find myself at a standstill. I go to look for jobs and I'm just like "meh". I've got no advice for ya, but just wanted to let you know you're not alone.
I graduate one year from now, and I have the fear of ending up in a job that's just not for me after a few years too. I really hope both of you find something that makes you feel fulfilled and that you wake up excited to be apart of each morning. My best advice based on what I've always been told by my countless career professionalism courses is to never feel like you're underqualified for a position. Just apply, go visit or call the higher ups at your target place of work, and just make some sort of impression. A friendly and energetic personality goes a long way in a lot of fields.
but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal. 
