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I'm in quite the damned if I do, damned if I don't position on account of my politics.
I could be a hell of a bureaucrat or public sector employee, but I fear my signature on a recall petition is considered a disqualifying factor for public sector gigs in my state. These are times where civil service exams (on which I scored 94% and 96% on a couple) have been officially scrapped, and the new approach to fill these positions is hiring is now handled by appointees of that same governor I tried to recall. Not holding my breath there.
My party on the other side of the aisle isn't having me, either. The permanent positions I've applied for wind up going to donors' kids. The limited term election year gigs with my state party went almost exclusively to those who previously worked for our presumptive nominee in other states - although our presumptive nominee only won one county in this entire state - and county officers such as myself had to maintain neutrality in the primary where these jobs were earned. I have some thoughts on that which aren't necessarily related.
Anyway, to get to the larger point... that leaves me to look largely in the private sector. In my parts, that mostly means big boxes and gas stations, agricultural and welding/manufacturing or whatever. Degrees outside of education and healthcare don't seem to matter in my parts. They look at me kinda funny at my county workforce development center and job fair booths. I am definitely not what they're used to dealing with.
The only sector that seems even mildly interested in me as of late is insurance. I'm not feeling it, but I've looked into it. I actually declined an offer in the industry back in spring. They weren't up front about it being nights & weekend hours during initial recruitment, and I wasn't prepared to remain on a nights & weekends schedule. I ultimately told them that wasn't compatible with my being a county party officer plans for voter outreach at the same times, and remained - and still remain - a pizza delivery dude. That company has actually tried to recruit me twice since I bowed out. Still nope.
My schedule isn't friendly between job/politics/family life, but I'm still trying to hit up the job fairs and such outside my county. I've got one an hour from home next week. Here's hoping someone besides the staffing agencies are interested over there... the ones here send me such poorly-written correspondence that I'd rather grade & return it than take them up on whatever they're trying to offer. Maybe I'm overly picky, but if they're going to try to lure me with a degree... at least get spelling & grammar down, lay off the caps lock, and go easy on the exclamation marks? But hey, maybe that's why I'm the anomaly in my parts.
I don't think we have a lot of high school students on this board but I hope some of the posts in here show the importance of getting a degree that is usable after graduation. Sure it might be fun to study History, Art, Geography, Political Science, Dance, Physical Education, Sports Management, English or whatever but most of those degrees just mean you're ending up with some shitty telemarketing job. There are some people who make it in those fields but its not a high percentage and all you have to show for that time and money is a fuckload of student loan debt.
I've given aspiring Poli Sci majors similar advice. I don't discourage their political involvement, per se, but what I tell them is: major in something more marketable/useful, and volunteer with whatever campaign/cause/party you'd like on the side. And if they still insist on Poli Sci, I at least encourage a heaping helping of and/or double major in Economics to go with it.
I did college in two stints, the first being from 19-21 before I dropped out. Two major reasons I left then were because my parents really couldn't afford to support me financially (two siblings still at home, Dad had been laid off a while when I was in high school, and I was working 60-70 hour weeks on top of being a full-time student - totally overextended & underperforming) and that I'd simply grown weary of the major. Took a few years off, got my act together, debts paid & money saved, financial aid status changed, whatever.
Went back full-time at 25, with required meetings with academic advising staff, and I told them flat-out I didn't want to do Poli Sci again. I had another field in mind, and they pushed back on that hard. A lot of arguing ensued, and between their wanting me to go all-in on it and my wanting nothing to do with it, I finally caved and took one course. It happened to be taught by my favorite professor ever (the only one I've bothered to stay in touch with through today, even) and kept me going... but in hindsight, it feels more like "they got lucky" than "they were right." That decision did me no favors.
So, I've got myself a bachelor's that's basically a half-baked law and/or public administration degree... but there's no desire to double down on that losing bet and complete either of those. In hindsight, I probably should've weathered the Great Recession in grad school instead... but I would've had to have had all that lined up at the end of 2007, and I was just looking forward to graduating Class of 2008 and being done with it.
I have a 4 year degree. It cost about $50,000 to get. It's worth about $75,000/yr. I have a CCIE. It cost about $10,000 to get. It's worth about $125,000/yr.
And it's because of the CCIE that we won't be paying on student loans until the end of time.
I don't think we have a lot of high school students on this board but I hope some of the posts in here show the importance of getting a degree that is usable after graduation. Sure it might be fun to study History, Art, Geography, Political Science, Dance, Physical Education, Sports Management, English or whatever but most of those degrees just mean you're ending up with some shitty telemarketing job. There are some people who make it in those fields but its not a high percentage and all you have to show for that time and money is a fuckload of student loan debt.
Starting college next year. Planning to major in computer science.
Post by thepeppers on Jul 23, 2016 21:42:07 GMT -5
As of now, I only have two regrets from college (in academics at least).
- I should have minored in Graphic Design instead of Management. So many PR/Marketing/Ad/etc jobs are looking for experience in Photoshop and Indesign. I know a few basics from two different classes I took involving Photoshop...but it would be nice to have more experience in Graphic Design.
- When I was accepted into the grad program...I had the option of either taking the spring semester off and doing the GTA route (in which you teach public speaking classes your last year) or start immediately in the spring semester and work as a GA. You come out better financially if you can do the GTA route, but I knew I would be able to finish a year earlier starting in the spring and not signing a contract. I started immediately in the spring, as I wanted to be finished ASAP and didn't think I would ever have an interest in teaching. That was stupid...but hindsight is 20/20.
Oh, man, do I have academic regrets from college...
- Took French instead of Spanish. Result of talking to the same advisors I complained about above? I only took three years of Spanish in high school; didn't do the fourth year, so I had no AP placement test or whatever. The only difference that made as far as my university was concerned was that, to meet the language requirement, I would've had to start at 101 without that test AND take a minimum of three semesters because I'd taken it previously. With a new language, I could meet the requirement in two semesters. I did the latter. It was fun, I made more friends in those classes than any other, it was great for my GPA, and I wound up taking five semesters... which kind of defeated the point of taking a new language to meet the requirement? Now it's largely unused, and as it gathers dust in my brain the French/Spanish I do remember gets all jumbled up.
- I wish I had taken more of those free software classes available at the library.
- Russ Feingold is a bit of a hero and all... but rather than being in his U.S. Senate office, I think I'd have been better served by being an intern in the state capital like nearly everyone else in that semester's cohort of legislative interns. They were big fish in smaller ponds, and probably got more valuable learning out of their experiences than I did.
- I took the most slacker path to meeting my science requirement: * Intro to Entomology (I grew a bug and didn't kill it! ...on the second try, because I passed out drunk one night & left my lamp on after feeding time during the early phase of my first attempt.) * Food Science (televised, only had to show up 3x a semester for tests, my roommate & I divided up episodes and filled each other in) * Volcanoes & Civilization (2 credits, met twice a week, ended 10 weeks into a 15-week semester) * Age Of Dinosaurs (entirely online) * Forum On The Environment (one credit to kill off the requirement, listened to one guest lecture a week and took a quiz)
- I wish I had taken Ballroom Dance at a time other than during a semester where I was already cohabitating with a girlfriend. I didn't look like a fool when I was my buddy's best man, which was why I enrolled... but damn, that class was a treasure trove of missed opportunities because I was spoken for & behave myself.
- Oh, and I delayed formally declaring my major for a full school year because I had a crush on my married "general" advisor, because I would've been reassigned when I declared. (Not the awful one referenced earlier in this and previous posts. Not that I was so gung-ho about Political Science when I returned in the first place.)
I somehow lucked out. I went to state school, my grandparents and scholarships paid for much of it, I paid my grandparents back on much of their contributions. I have no student debt now.
I originally went to school for meteorology and flunked out of that. I switched to history, partly out of interest and partly it was the fastest way to a bachelor's degree. I didn't have any idea of what I wanted to do with said degree, which is why I spent much of my employed life in warehouses.
I took a bunch of law classes toward the end of my undergrad days, and like 6-7 years later led to the paralegal program. We'll see how well this goes.
I don't think we have a lot of high school students on this board but I hope some of the posts in here show the importance of getting a degree that is usable after graduation. Sure it might be fun to study History, Art, Geography, Political Science, Dance, Physical Education, Sports Management, English or whatever but most of those degrees just mean you're ending up with some shitty telemarketing job. There are some people who make it in those fields but its not a high percentage and all you have to show for that time and money is a fuckload of student loan debt.
^^^some of my most often given advice.
My first degree is in English, which resulted in an $8/hour bank teller job for 8 years. Quickly realized my error and went back to school and got a masters in accounting and then passed the CPA exam, which landed me a good job in public accounting. I have great bosses, enjoy what I do, and am comfortable financially. I'm a big advocate of studying something that results in a marketable skill.
Having said that I gave this same advice to a friend of mine several years ago. He proudly told me he loved music and playing guitar and was going to study it in school. I strongly advised him not to, sharing my story and telling him he can always play music but he should consider a different way to make a living. He ignored me and went to school for jazz guitar. He went in 102% and worked his ass off, impressed his teachers, and make a lot of professional connections. Went to grad school and did the same thing. Now, due to his hard work, great reputation, and professional relationships, is a fixture in our local working musicians scene, and can get work playing or teaching whenever he wants. He makes a living doing only this and is happy and thrilled with what he does.
I kept a close relationship with him throughout his years in school and vicariously learned a lot about what it is to make it as a professional musician. While most of his fellow students spent a lot of time partying and dreaming of being a rock star, he was rehearsing 8+ hours a day, not partying, and making sure he kept all his commitments, not to pursue some ego-driven fantasy but because he loves music. He put up with a ton of stress and a lot of getting his ass ripped by cruel professors that pushed him until he almost broke. I admire the hell of him and what he has accomplished.
I worked hard to get where I am, but I think he worked a hell of a lot harder. I guess that is a lesson too, that if you want to pursue an education in the arts you need to work twice as hard as all of your peers.
As of now, I only have two regrets from college (in academics at least).
- I should have minored in Graphic Design instead of Management. So many PR/Marketing/Ad/etc jobs are looking for experience in Photoshop and Indesign. I know a few basics from two different classes I took involving Photoshop...but it would be nice to have more experience in Graphic Design.
- When I was accepted into the grad program...I had the option of either taking the spring semester off and doing the GTA route (in which you teach public speaking classes your last year) or start immediately in the spring semester and work as a GA. You come out better financially if you can do the GTA route, but I knew I would be able to finish a year earlier starting in the spring and not signing a contract. I started immediately in the spring, as I wanted to be finished ASAP and didn't think I would ever have an interest in teaching. That was stupid...but hindsight is 20/20.
have you ever looked into using www.lynda.com to learn design programs? I have a free membership through my grad program because we used the tutorial for Final Cut Pro - it's really helpful & well known. it can be a tiny bit stale in delivery, but the general program tutorials are very thorough and you can also find more specific tutorials for different tools. if you want to learn those programs (there are a ton more tutorials outside of those programs, too), it could be worth your investment.
As of now, I only have two regrets from college (in academics at least).
- I should have minored in Graphic Design instead of Management. So many PR/Marketing/Ad/etc jobs are looking for experience in Photoshop and Indesign. I know a few basics from two different classes I took involving Photoshop...but it would be nice to have more experience in Graphic Design.
- When I was accepted into the grad program...I had the option of either taking the spring semester off and doing the GTA route (in which you teach public speaking classes your last year) or start immediately in the spring semester and work as a GA. You come out better financially if you can do the GTA route, but I knew I would be able to finish a year earlier starting in the spring and not signing a contract. I started immediately in the spring, as I wanted to be finished ASAP and didn't think I would ever have an interest in teaching. That was stupid...but hindsight is 20/20.
have you ever looked into using www.lynda.com to learn design programs? I have a free membership through my grad program because we used the tutorial for Final Cut Pro - it's really helpful & well known. it can be a tiny bit stale in delivery, but the general program tutorials are very thorough and you can also find more specific tutorials for different tools. if you want to learn those programs (there are a ton more tutorials outside of those programs, too), it could be worth your investment.
I have heard of lynda, but never gave it much thought. I usually rely on Youtube tutorials and lectures if I want to learn something extra...but that can usually only take you so far.
I have an interview for a management position tomorrow. I was originally told I couldn't apply because I didn't have one year of supervisory experience (just became a supervisor in January) but they only have three people that qualify and none have applied. So they are requesting a waiver to allow me (and another person) to apply. Wish me luck! It would be a promotion.
I have an interview for a management position tomorrow. I was originally told I couldn't apply because I didn't have one year of supervisory experience (just became a supervisor in January) but they only have three people that qualify and none have applied. So they are requesting a waiver to allow me (and another person) to apply. Wish me luck! It would be a promotion.
Good luck! They'd be lucky to have you fill the position.
Post by potentpotables on Jul 26, 2016 18:11:37 GMT -5
billybaroo has much more experience with this type of thing, but I will disagree. Get a liberal arts education. I've been saying this for 15 years but at some point old people are going to die or retire and there will be millions of mind numbing, soul sucking jobs available. At that point you'll need your love of Proust or Chopin to get you through.
I will be paying off student loan debt for the rest of my life. I don't even want to begin to think about that.
QFT.
If you're going to go to grad school, make sure you are absolutely sure it's what you want to do and will complete the degree. I found that out the hard way, and now there's a large number that will haunt me for years.
I have an interview for a management position tomorrow. I was originally told I couldn't apply because I didn't have one year of supervisory experience (just became a supervisor in January) but they only have three people that qualify and none have applied. So they are requesting a waiver to allow me (and another person) to apply. Wish me luck! It would be a promotion.
So there is an open position at a company that I found via the company website, and I am well-qualified for the position. Looking over the career website for ASU, I found the contact information for an HR person. It seems like reaching out to her would probably be in my best interest, but does anyone have suggestion about the content? I figure I should explain a bit about why I am qualified and interested without sending along a whole cover letter? I don't want to just send a giant wall of text to a complete stranger, but I also don't want it to be a wasted email that will go right in the trash. Which brings up the next point: what to put as the subject line? When I get emails from people I don't know, I usually trash them or just give them a glance...and obviously I don't want that to happen. thoughts? ntact, right?
So there is an open position at a company that I found via the company website, and I am well-qualified for the position. Looking over the career website for ASU, I found the contact information for an HR person. It seems like reaching out to her would probably be in my best interest, but does anyone have suggestion about the content? I figure I should explain a bit about why I am qualified and interested without sending along a whole cover letter? I don't want to just send a giant wall of text to a complete stranger, but I also don't want it to be a wasted email that will go right in the trash. Which brings up the next point: what to put as the subject line? When I get emails from people I don't know, I usually trash them or just give them a glance...and obviously I don't want that to happen. thoughts? ntact, right?
I would put in the subject line: "The Position Title" Inquiry. As the HR person for the position, he/she should be keeping an eye out in the email box for anything involving the position. As far as content, I would suggest getting straight to the point. What you studied in school, what the bulk of your experience is in, and what you can bring to the table. Maybe close by asking what should be your next step in the process.
So there is an open position at a company that I found via the company website, and I am well-qualified for the position. Looking over the career website for ASU, I found the contact information for an HR person. It seems like reaching out to her would probably be in my best interest, but does anyone have suggestion about the content? I figure I should explain a bit about why I am qualified and interested without sending along a whole cover letter? I don't want to just send a giant wall of text to a complete stranger, but I also don't want it to be a wasted email that will go right in the trash. Which brings up the next point: what to put as the subject line? When I get emails from people I don't know, I usually trash them or just give them a glance...and obviously I don't want that to happen. thoughts? ntact, right?
I would put in the subject line: "The Position Title" Inquiry. As the HR person for the position, he/she should be keeping an eye out in the email box for anything involving the position. As far as content, I would suggest getting straight to the point. What you studied in school, what the bulk of your experience is in, and what you can bring to the table. Maybe close by asking what should be your next step in the process.
Good luck!
That's basically what I did. Only thing is she isn't the HR person for the position necessarily, just the campus recruiter for the company. We will see how it turns out.
I have an interview for a management position tomorrow. I was originally told I couldn't apply because I didn't have one year of supervisory experience (just became a supervisor in January) but they only have three people that qualify and none have applied. So they are requesting a waiver to allow me (and another person) to apply. Wish me luck! It would be a promotion.
Welp didn't get it. Pretty bummed out. I'm unhappy in my currrent position and was hoping I could stay at the company but do something different.
Back to job hunting.
(Or maybe we can just focus on getting this hippie commune going??)
I'm majoring in Finance and Minoring in Music, Media, and Enterprise and want to somehow get connected to music industry related finance. Anyone have suggestions of companies I should check out?
I'm majoring in Finance and Minoring in Music, Media, and Enterprise and want to somehow get connected to music industry related finance. Anyone have suggestions of companies I should check out?
No but for a small fee I will let you invest in the record label that I'm starting up. We (I) have a focus on tribal circus raptronica and I really think it's going places. And even if it tanks it will be good experience for your resume.
And to be clear, the fee is to me personally for the opportunity. The investment is separate.
I'm majoring in Finance and Minoring in Music, Media, and Enterprise and want to somehow get connected to music industry related finance. Anyone have suggestions of companies I should check out?
No but for a small fee I will let you invest in the record label that I'm starting up. We (I) have a focus on tribal circus raptronica and I really think it's going places. And even if it tanks it will be good experience for your resume.
And to be clear, the fee is to me personally for the opportunity. The investment is separate.
I'm majoring in Finance and Minoring in Music, Media, and Enterprise and want to somehow get connected to music industry related finance. Anyone have suggestions of companies I should check out?
You're in Columbus right? Email CD 102.5/ PromoWest & see what they have. They have lots of internships and are awesome people to work with. (I never actually worked with them officially, just know a bunch of people at CD 101 and got to help out on summerfest a few years ago and a couple other small tabling events like Comfest).
No but for a small fee I will let you invest in the record label that I'm starting up. We (I) have a focus on tribal circus raptronica and I really think it's going places. And even if it tanks it will be good experience for your resume.
And to be clear, the fee is to me personally for the opportunity. The investment is separate.
I'm majoring in Finance and Minoring in Music, Media, and Enterprise and want to somehow get connected to music industry related finance. Anyone have suggestions of companies I should check out?
You're in Columbus right? Email CD 102.5/ PromoWest & see what they have. They have lots of internships and are awesome people to work with. (I never actually worked with them officially, just know a bunch of people at CD 101 and got to help out on summerfest a few years ago and a couple other small tabling events like Comfest).
Don't know how I didn't think of that, that is perfect thank you!
