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Post by Redman's Meth on Mar 2, 2016 1:42:56 GMT -5
Fuck it, I'm going with my heart. Ladies and Gentleman we are floating in space... With my 5th round pick I select J. Spaceman aka Jason Pierce, the founder and leader of Spacemen 3 and Spiritualized. He'll be shredding guitar and also playing harmonica, piano, autoharp, dulcimer, backing vocals.
He'll add a spacey, psychedelic guitar sound, but it's his love of gospel music that will help him work with my band.
Current lineup of JB and the Soul Maggots: Frontman/Lead Vocals: James Brown Guitar: Bass: Larry Graham - backing vocals Drums: Ginger Baker Misc: Herbie Hanc.o.c.k. - piano/keyboard/synths/keytar/vocoder, band leader horn arranger. Misc: J. Spaceman - guitar/harmonica/piano/autoharp/dulcimer/backing vocals
Post by Redman's Meth on Mar 2, 2016 2:09:50 GMT -5
Also, I've been meaning to ask is it cool if we say that since we have people in our band that play with horns that by default our band could/would have horn players with them? Every person in my band performed with backing horns most of the time. Most of my guys used backup singers as well, or even full blown choirs is some cases.
Basically I'm asking if it's cool to say that the musicians we picked would be allowed to use other instruments (horns/strings/backup singers) in the creation of their music, and therefore, have additional musicians that might have to play with them live to produce that music? Maybe I should have clarified this before hand LOL.
For example, fearofpride has Jonny Greenwood. Therefore, I'm saying he can use the full range of Jonny's talents which would include putting together a string orchestral piece. Although Jonny himself can play instruments that sound like strings, so maybe that's a bad example. But whatever, you get the point?
Or is this like totally cheating? Or by saying this have I already put the thought in your head and cheated by default muahahahaha...
Also, I've been meaning to ask is it cool if we say that since we have people in our band that play with horns that by default our band could/would have horn players with them? Every person in my band performed with backing horns most of the time. Most of my guys used backup singers as well, or even full blown choirs is some cases.
Basically I'm asking if it's cool to say that the musicians we picked would be allowed to use other instruments (horns/strings/backup singers) in the creation of their music, and therefore, have additional musicians that might have to play with them live to produce that music? Maybe I should have clarified this before hand LOL.
For example, fearofpride has Jonny Greenwood. Therefore, I'm saying he can use the full range of Jonny's talents which would include putting together a string orchestral piece. Although Jonny himself can play instruments that sound like strings, so maybe that's a bad example. But whatever, you get the point?
Or is this like totally cheating? Or by saying this have I already put the thought in your head and cheated by default muahahahaha...
For my band Roger Waters is not just a bass player, Sufjan Stevens is not just a guitar player. I drafted them and their entire artistic talent.
Post by Redman's Meth on Mar 2, 2016 2:19:31 GMT -5
My ace in the hole. The closest thing to Hendrix other than Hendrix. This dude might be one of the most underrated guitar players ever. With my last pick, I'm taking Eddie Hazel, guitarist of Parliment-Funkadelic.
The man was a supreme shredder, and a Hendrix disciple.
Also, if you haven't heard the magic he pulls off on the title track of Maggot Brain. You need to check it out, preferably late at night, as your winding down for bed. I have this album on vinyl and play it about once a week, usually late in the evening.
Also, I've been meaning to ask is it cool if we say that since we have people in our band that play with horns that by default our band could/would have horn players with them? Every person in my band performed with backing horns most of the time. Most of my guys used backup singers as well, or even full blown choirs is some cases.
Basically I'm asking if it's cool to say that the musicians we picked would be allowed to use other instruments (horns/strings/backup singers) in the creation of their music, and therefore, have additional musicians that might have to play with them live to produce that music? Maybe I should have clarified this before hand LOL.
For example, fearofpride has Jonny Greenwood. Therefore, I'm saying he can use the full range of Jonny's talents which would include putting together a string orchestral piece. Although Jonny himself can play instruments that sound like strings, so maybe that's a bad example. But whatever, you get the point?
Or is this like totally cheating? Or by saying this have I already put the thought in your head and cheated by default muahahahaha...
For my band Roger Waters is not just a bass player, Sufjan Stevens is not just a guitar player. I drafted them and their entire artistic talent.
Post by Redman's Meth on Mar 2, 2016 2:32:11 GMT -5
James Brown and the Soul Maggots Frontman/Lead Vocals: James Brown Guitar: Eddie Hazel - backing vocals Bass: Larry Graham - backing vocals Drums: Ginger Baker Misc: Herbie Hanc.o.c.k. - piano/keyboard/synths/keytar/vocoder, band leader horn arranger. Misc: J. Spaceman - guitar/harmonica/piano/autoharp/dulcimer/backing vocals
My band is obviously going to have a funky, jazzy, soulful sound at it's core, but also be able to go into heavenly, psychedelic gospel jams with J. Spaceman's influence. They can make you dance, they can rip your face, or they can take you to space. Also, yeah I am cheating and saying that these boys are gonna be bringing some very talented horn players and a gospel choir with them, so yeah you're just gonna have to deal with that.
For my band Roger Waters is not just a bass player, Sufjan Stevens is not just a guitar player. I drafted them and their entire artistic talent.
That's what I'm talking about.
Hate to break it to you but I think you guys are talking about different things. Black bush is talking about using his drafted musicians for different roles. Redman's Meth is talking about using additional backup singers and horn players that were not part of the draft. Unless I am misunderstanding
Also, I've been meaning to ask is it cool if we say that since we have people in our band that play with horns that by default our band could/would have horn players with them? Every person in my band performed with backing horns most of the time. Most of my guys used backup singers as well, or even full blown choirs is some cases.
Basically I'm asking if it's cool to say that the musicians we picked would be allowed to use other instruments (horns/strings/backup singers) in the creation of their music, and therefore, have additional musicians that might have to play with them live to produce that music? Maybe I should have clarified this before hand LOL.
For example, fearofpride has Jonny Greenwood. Therefore, I'm saying he can use the full range of Jonny's talents which would include putting together a string orchestral piece. Although Jonny himself can play instruments that sound like strings, so maybe that's a bad example. But whatever, you get the point?
Or is this like totally cheating? Or by saying this have I already put the thought in your head and cheated by default muahahahaha...
They can play any and all instruments in their ability but you can't bring in extra members for live shows. They have to play 1 at a time on stage. No studio bullshit IMO have to play it as it should sound live
Also, I've been meaning to ask is it cool if we say that since we have people in our band that play with horns that by default our band could/would have horn players with them? Every person in my band performed with backing horns most of the time. Most of my guys used backup singers as well, or even full blown choirs is some cases.
Basically I'm asking if it's cool to say that the musicians we picked would be allowed to use other instruments (horns/strings/backup singers) in the creation of their music, and therefore, have additional musicians that might have to play with them live to produce that music? Maybe I should have clarified this before hand LOL.
For example, fearofpride has Jonny Greenwood. Therefore, I'm saying he can use the full range of Jonny's talents which would include putting together a string orchestral piece. Although Jonny himself can play instruments that sound like strings, so maybe that's a bad example. But whatever, you get the point?
Or is this like totally cheating? Or by saying this have I already put the thought in your head and cheated by default muahahahaha...
As I understand it, every band member needs to fill one of the six spots as a primary role. If you have Paul McCartney or whoever, of course he's going to sing and play guitar and piano - but he can't be both the lead singer and lead guitarist.
I think I'm losing my enthusiasm for drafting with all these drafts and rules discussion and semantics and waivers and shiz.
Yea, I wish we could have done these without adding rules and amendments as we go. The album draft is going smoothly. But I guess it's hard to mess that one up.
I think I'm losing my enthusiasm for drafting with all these drafts and rules discussion and semantics and waivers and shiz.
Yea, I wish we could have done these without adding rules and amendments as we go. The album draft is going smoothly. But I guess it's hard to mess that one up.
Difference with this one is the need for the picks to work together, no such problem when drafting albums, bands, movies, video games, etc
I think I'm losing my enthusiasm for drafting with all these drafts and rules discussion and semantics and waivers and shiz.
Yea, I wish we could have done these without adding rules and amendments as we go. The album draft is going smoothly. But I guess it's hard to mess that one up.
I see what you're saying, but this is the first time a Build-a-Band draft has been done - no one knew ahead of time what issues would need to be resolved, so they have to be resolved on the fly.
Personally, I think this issue is a moot point. Even though I think saying yes to orchestral arrangements or whatnot is a bit of a stretch, how does it actually effect things? People are going to vote for the best band drafted. It's not like saying "and sometimes there's gonna be a string section or a session player come in and play horns" or "occasionally so-and-so is going to play piano instead of bass" is going to influence anything.
Yea, I wish we could have done these without adding rules and amendments as we go. The album draft is going smoothly. But I guess it's hard to mess that one up.
I see what you're saying, but this is the first time a Build-a-Band draft has been done - no one knew ahead of time what issues would need to be resolved, so they have to be resolved on the fly.
Personally, I think this issue is a moot point. Even though I think saying yes to orchestral arrangements or whatnot is a bit of a stretch, how does it actually effect things? People are going to vote for the best band drafted. It's not like saying "and sometimes there's gonna be a string section or a session player come in and play horns" or "occasionally so-and-so is going to play piano instead of bass" is going to influence anything.
Yea, I don't really care about that. I'm more worried that some people are trying to add an extra band member or trying to cut and add to make their band better. You should just stick with who you drafted.
Also, I've been meaning to ask is it cool if we say that since we have people in our band that play with horns that by default our band could/would have horn players with them? Every person in my band performed with backing horns most of the time. Most of my guys used backup singers as well, or even full blown choirs is some cases.
Basically I'm asking if it's cool to say that the musicians we picked would be allowed to use other instruments (horns/strings/backup singers) in the creation of their music, and therefore, have additional musicians that might have to play with them live to produce that music? Maybe I should have clarified this before hand LOL.
For example, fearofpride has Jonny Greenwood. Therefore, I'm saying he can use the full range of Jonny's talents which would include putting together a string orchestral piece. Although Jonny himself can play instruments that sound like strings, so maybe that's a bad example. But whatever, you get the point?
Or is this like totally cheating? Or by saying this have I already put the thought in your head and cheated by default muahahahaha...
They can play any and all instruments in their ability but you can't bring in extra members for live shows. They have to play 1 at a time on stage. No studio bullshit IMO have to play it as it should sound live
See I think that's just kinda silly. It's like you wouldn't tell Pink Floyd that they couldn't bring in a female singer to perform that amazing vocal part on "Great Gig in the Sky". Or you wouldn't tell them that they couldn't use a saxophone player to nail that sax solo on "Us and Them". Or you wouldn't tell Radiohead that they weren't allowed to use the horns that they brought in for "The National Anthem". Etc. You see my point?
All I'm really saying is that if you could actually somehow put these bands together in reality, then you might as well let them create any type of sound that they would want to create.
And yes, I readily admit that I'm probably cheating, and no, I don't really care.
They can play any and all instruments in their ability but you can't bring in extra members for live shows. They have to play 1 at a time on stage. No studio bullshit IMO have to play it as it should sound live
See I think that's just kinda silly. It's like you wouldn't tell Pink Floyd that they couldn't bring in a female singer to perform that amazing vocal part on "Great Gig in the Sky". Or you wouldn't tell them that they couldn't use a saxophone player to nail that sax solo on "Us and Them". Or you wouldn't tell Radiohead that they weren't allowed to use the horns that they brought in for "The National Anthem". Etc. You see my point?
All I'm really saying is that if you could actually somehow put these bands together in reality, then you might as well let them create any type of sound that they would want to create.
And yes, I readily admit that I'm probably cheating, and no, I don't really care.
I actually agree with you on this. This is not what I'm against.
I see what you're saying, but this is the first time a Build-a-Band draft has been done - no one knew ahead of time what issues would need to be resolved, so they have to be resolved on the fly.
Personally, I think this issue is a moot point. Even though I think saying yes to orchestral arrangements or whatnot is a bit of a stretch, how does it actually effect things? People are going to vote for the best band drafted. It's not like saying "and sometimes there's gonna be a string section or a session player come in and play horns" or "occasionally so-and-so is going to play piano instead of bass" is going to influence anything.
Yea, I don't really care about that. I'm more worried that some people are trying to add an extra band member or trying to cut and add to make their band better. You should just stick with who you drafted.
Also, I'm not saying that I want to specifically draft extra members. Just that every person in my band has played with backing horns extensively, and that they would most definitely use them in the creation of their music.
And I kinda agree with you that the wavier round is a bit dumb.
Yea, I wish we could have done these without adding rules and amendments as we go. The album draft is going smoothly. But I guess it's hard to mess that one up.
I see what you're saying, but this is the first time a Build-a-Band draft has been done - no one knew ahead of time what issues would need to be resolved, so they have to be resolved on the fly.
Personally, I think this issue is a moot point. Even though I think saying yes to orchestral arrangements or whatnot is a bit of a stretch, how does it actually effect things? People are going to vote for the best band drafted. It's not like saying "and sometimes there's gonna be a string section or a session player come in and play horns" or "occasionally so-and-so is going to play piano instead of bass" is going to influence anything.
Agreed. People are gonna vote for their favorite band regardless, and to be honest, it's not like I think my band is actually gonna win either. I probably lost any chance I had by going way to specific into my personal tastes with my last two picks.
They can play any and all instruments in their ability but you can't bring in extra members for live shows. They have to play 1 at a time on stage. No studio bullshit IMO have to play it as it should sound live
See I think that's just kinda silly. It's like you wouldn't tell Pink Floyd that they couldn't bring in a female singer to perform that amazing vocal part on "Great Gig in the Sky". Or you wouldn't tell them that they couldn't use a saxophone player to nail that sax solo on "Us and Them". Or you wouldn't tell Radiohead that they weren't allowed to use the horns that they brought in for "The National Anthem". Etc. You see my point?
All I'm really saying is that if you could actually somehow put these bands together in reality, then you might as well let them create any type of sound that they would want to create.
And yes, I readily admit that I'm probably cheating, and no, I don't really care.
I get that bands bring in extra musicians from time to time and have no problem with it. My main point is there can't be any "I don't need to draft a sax player, I can just claim horn section backing" type things to add to a band. If your band is having horns or a guest singer sit in on a song or 2 out of many that is a lot different what what you first said (or how I read it, to lazy to look back)
Post by Redman's Meth on Mar 2, 2016 9:39:41 GMT -5
This also raises the question of are we drafting these bands for the potential records they would make or the sounds they would produce live? I always kinda assumed that, like any other band, it would be both. They would make music in a studio and then recreate it in a live setting.
This also raises the question of are we drafting these bands for the potential records they would make or the sounds they would produce live? I always kinda assumed that, like any other band, it would be both. They would make music in a studio and then recreate it in a live setting.
Both. It's really hard to imagine how these musicians would work together in a studio though. Like my band, for example, all of them are the man in their bands and they're all superstars. It's all left up to the imagination how they would work together and what kind of music they would make. But if you imagine them playing live, it's easier to see. I can see these guys playing together and it would be the greatest thing ever.
I hadn't really thought about it until now. Yet it's interesting because the band that I think would make the best album would probably be different from the band that I thought would put on the best live show.
