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It's ironic that Launchpad went on about how David Gilmour was not a headliner for skipping MSG and now discredits LCD's status every chance he gets despite their history with that venue.
A single ticket with a camping pass costs $464.55 now, I feel like that doesn't get brought up enough. Bonnaroo used to have the biggest cult following of any festival in the US in my opinion, but I think many people that used to just go every year for the vibez and drugz can't even afford it anymore.
Actually those people grew up and make even more money now. Some of them still probably do drugs. Too bad these poor lineups chased them all away.
I fall squarely in the category you're describing so I don't disagree. I couldn't have attended my first Bonnaroo if it was this price though.
A single ticket with a camping pass costs $464.55 now, I feel like that doesn't get brought up enough. Bonnaroo used to have the biggest cult following of any festival in the US in my opinion, but I think many people that used to just go every year for the vibez and drugz can't even afford it anymore.
Wow I didn't even realize it was that expensive now (volunteering is the way to go!). I feel like this says it all right here. This lineup is not worth 460$.
longer set times - i member tame getting said time and failing to execute, also not everyone is trying to play 3 hr sets, maybe that's more on the artist?
Are you really going to try and use Tame Impala's short set as some sort of justification for the overall shorter sets for the entire festival?
Tame Impala, who is known to have a rigid set list, didn't fill their set. Therefore everyone gets shorter sets now!
That's fucking absurd.
Shorter sets come from the top down, not from the artist.
The Meters are up there with my favorite bands. George Porter Jr is a legend in my eyes. Pres Hall are always a good time, especially for folks like me who can't get enough of NOLA music. That being said, there is no denying this Superjam doesn't come close to having the firepower of previous years. Last year wasn't really all that great either, but it was probably still better on paper than this. It would be hard for Roo to ever top the 2013 superjam for me personally.
It would be hard for Roo to ever top the 2013 superjam for me personally.
Agreed. 2013 was my 1st Bonnaroo and I'm SO glad I went to the Superjam. After hearing to never miss a SJ, each year I've cut out early on the headliner to head over for a good spot. BIG mistake last year. This year seems more promising
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You know there are people whose job it is to do market research. They send out feedback forms to consumers, go over the responses, ect. They did that research after last year to see what the problem was.
You notice how all of the things you and others like to complain about were not addressed? That is because what you like to complain about, is not an issue anywhere but on this message board and in your head.
I get it bro. They loaded up the lineup with their own cheap package tours so they could cut costs, sell significantly fewer tickets and still make a profit. This isn't some insider info that only you understand. But the fact that LiveNation can make a profit off this doesn't mean the product is as appealing to consumers as it used to be.
Interesting. Since you are so knowledgeable. Care to point out who on this lineup is doing one of those cheap livenation exclusive "package tours" that you claim they "loaded up on?"
lol sure. If they just start booking niche acts that barely anybody went to when they were booked, everything will be all better.
I don't want to get into some long drawn out argument, LCD and the dead would done fine if paired with any roo undercard in the last five years. The flip was the lack of quality acts in the middle. Headliners don't fill hot ass multi-day music festivals.
You are wrong.
In the last 5 years the headliners were:
Radiohead/Red Hot Chili Peppers/Phish Paul McCartney/Tom Petty/Mumford (Jack Johnson) Elton John/Kanye West/Jack White Billy Joel/Mumford/Deadmau5/Kendrick Pearl Jam/The Dead/LCD/J Cole
In terms of drawing power, the last one is a gigantic step down. *Surprise* the one that wasnt as much of a draw, didnt draw.
It's ironic that Launchpad went on about how David Gilmour was not a headliner for skipping MSG and now discredits LCD's status every chance he gets despite their history with that venue.
This has almost nothing to do with what we are talking about. Is both factually and contextually inacurrate, and is obnoxious as hell.
Gilmour *did* play MSG. He didnt headline any festivals.
LCD played there once, because they said it was going to be their last show ever (it wasnt). As a result scalpers bought all the tickets, they issued an apology, and played multiple nights at a smaller venue. Rich history there. LCD has never played, much less sold out any other arena in the country.
You know who also sold out MSG once? Halsey. Is she a headliner in your head too?
My point there was Gilmour is a headliner even if he hasn't headlined festivals. It's funny that he ended up playing MSG dates because his Radio City date was the only reason you came up with this dumb theory to begin with. Just because Arctic Monkeys sold out MSG does not necessarily mean they are a headliner in the states. I can find value in an artist outside of tickets sold.
You know who has headlined? LCD. You know whose sold out festivals? LCD. I expect you to come back with that whole, "Coachella sells out all the time yadda yadda". But the fact of the matter is LCD headlined America's most prestigious festival and it sold out. Everyone didn't collectively decide to stay home. That's the fact no matter how you try to spin it. I don't know what kind of market research PT used to make that decision, but apparently it worked out for them.
I would argue the 2015's group of headliners were as weak as 2016, but it sold fine. I can't imagine Deadmau5 and Billy Joel being that much more of a pull than The Dead and Pearl Jam. The problem was those large gaps of dead space that kept people away.
Edit: You still going on and on about how LCD was the reason Bonnaroo was underattended only supports your ignorance.
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The 2015 headliners, while strong, just weren't a pull among the under 25 crowd. Lots of people last year skipped PJ, LCD, and The Dead...The Dead probably had the largest of the crowds for headliners last year and even that was small.
Also, can we stop comparing Coachella headliners with Roo headliners and their effect on attendance. Coachella can get away with booking LCD, Depeche Mode, Stone Roses, etc bc of their location and the cultural signifigance of the event.
Did any other festivals LCD play since Coachella sell out?
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The Dead probably had the largest of the crowds for headliners last year and even that was small.
Every crowd was small. The entire festival was underattended. I don't see your point.
Edit: people who run music festivals chose (keep choosing) LCD to headline. I trust those guys over a few random posters on inforoo.
My point was PJ and LCD had very little appeal to the under 25 demo, which the undercard was squarely aimed at.
I respect the fact that festivals book LCD to headline, they're a great live show. However, they don't move tickets. Even their "homecoming" set at Panorama last year was underattended. I can't wait till they announce their headlining tour in the fall and they're back playing 3-5k venues, those are the appropriate size venues for them.
Every crowd was small. The entire festival was underattended. I don't see your point.
Edit: people who run music festivals chose (keep choosing) LCD to headline. I trust those guys over a few random posters on inforoo.
My point was PJ and LCD had very little appeal to the under 25 demo, which the undercard was squarely aimed at.
I respect the fact that festivals book LCD to headline, they're a great live show. However, they don't move tickets. Even their "homecoming" set at Panorama last year was underattended. I can't wait till they announce their headlining tour in the fall and they're back playing 3-5k venues, those are the appropriate size venues for them.
Well it sounds like we are on the same page. My original argument was Bonnaroo should have improved the quality of the undercard in taking that chance. There was simply not enough support to move tickets last year.
Just wanted to drop in to remind everyone that Marshmello is booked 11th and will probably draw a bigger crowd than everyone except the headliners.
With absolutely zero else going on during his time slot this is very true...by the way Anyone heard rumors on Robe Rage? Big Freedia? Chance? Jamie xx?
Over/under on the following songs showing up in Marshmellos set?
Wonderwall Smells like Teen Spirit I Wanna Dance With Somebody Livin on a Prayer Mask Off Bad & Boujee Black Beatles
Did I miss any of thd standard 2017 EDM festival set standards?
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Post by Jake Jortles on May 26, 2017 8:04:30 GMT -5
Another huge problem of the last two years has been the disconnect between the undercard and headliners.
Who else did LCD, Pearl Jam, and dead fans have to look forward to last year? Seriously. Pearl Jam and Dead fans had close to NOTHING else. That's why a bunch of huge PJ and DEAD fans came out of the woodwork for their sets on day passes and camped for the pit.
This year, for people who love U2... what are they doing the rest of the festival? Now, the undercard makes perfect sense based on the Weeknd being a headliner, and maybe there is crossover among RHCP and Cage / Portugal fans? I'd say that's a stretch.
They just don't do a good job of rounding out genres anymore on top of everything else being discussed. If you are going to book LCD, throw me some Hot Chip, Cut Copy, etc... If you're giving me The Dead, give me 10-15 other jam bands spread evenly throughout the weekend so I will buy a 4 day ticket instead of 1.
A single ticket with a camping pass costs $464.55 now, I feel like that doesn't get brought up enough. Bonnaroo used to have the biggest cult following of any festival in the US in my opinion, but I think many people that used to just go every year for the vibez and drugz can't even afford it anymore.
Wow I didn't even realize it was that expensive now (volunteering is the way to go!). I feel like this says it all right here. This lineup is not worth 460$.
In your opinion. Being in the pit for U2, RHCP, and the Weeknd make it worth it when comparing to other venue ticket prices.
Wow I didn't even realize it was that expensive now (volunteering is the way to go!). I feel like this says it all right here. This lineup is not worth 460$.
In your opinion. Being in the pit for U2, RHCP, and the Weeknd make it worth it when comparing to other venue ticket prices.
So I'm sitting at LAX waiting for a flight (only 4 more hours due to a delay FML) and I thought I'd share my thoughts on my first Coachella while it's all still relatively fresh in my mind.
I feel like this statement contradicts every argument people are using against LN
Live Nation is a shithouse entity of its own. They are simply in the business of filling a schedule. Taste and meticulous curating need not apply.
Live Nation has to be hurting their own bottom line, unless booking U2 RHCP and The Weeknd and yet selling less tickets is somehow more profitable. Improving the undercard and making Bonnaroo more appealing to its base wouldn't be particularly expensive. Just a few bands here and there, especially doing something like making the electronic somewhat closer to it was a few years ago, and a lot more of the same people that were going are in. There is some evidence that LN bought Bonnaroo and just did not know what to do with it or how to grow it.
There is some evidence that LN bought Bonnaroo and just did not know what to do with it or how to grow it.
I just don't think there is any vision at all. It's minimal effort and no passion - bottled vibes simply banking on the name itself - all while losing an extremely loyal fan base in the process.
And if it doesn't work? Oh well. Cut losses and count on those other fests to succeed. At least they got rid of competition in the process. It's not like this is make or break for them like other promoters. Their clear lack of interest in maintaining its former self is only hurting the consumer.
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