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It does make the headliner landscape for 2018 look bleak. Coach does set the bar in the U.S, and if they can't even scrap together a decent trio of headliners, that's a concerning.
If this ends up being true, my theory is that PT purposefully went this route to grab trio of pop-friendly acts so they could afford to jam pack the undercard with more special acts that they normally wouldn't have room for. Stuff they'd want to book over the more popular shitty acts. Book Beyoncé, The Weeknd and The Chainsmokers so they can include Aphex Twin, Jamiroquai, Misfits, Soulwax, Jawbreaker etc. Get some great rare artists while still meeting the bottom line with sales with those headliners. I'd be willing to sacrifice good headliners for names like that. PT did say in an interview he wanted to experiment more with the lineup next year so perhaps this is what he meant.
I don't think this would be telling of what the rest of the US festivals will have available, this could possibly be Coachella going a different route than usual... if this is true and that's a big IF.
I could see that, but don't want to get my hopes up too much in case these headliners are true. This year's undercard, while good, did have a lot of the poppy/generic festival stuff as well.
It does make the headliner landscape for 2018 look bleak. Coach does set the bar in the U.S, and if they can't even scrap together a decent trio of headliners, that's a concerning.
If this ends up being true, my theory is that PT purposefully went this route to grab trio of pop-friendly acts so they could afford to jam pack the undercard with more special acts that they normally wouldn't have room for. Stuff they'd want to book over the more popular shitty acts. Book Beyoncé, The Weeknd and The Chainsmokers so they can include Aphex Twin, Jamiroquai, Misfits, Soulwax, Jawbreaker etc. Get some great rare artists while still meeting the bottom line with sales with those headliners. I'd be willing to sacrifice good headliners for names like that. PT did say in an interview he wanted to experiment more with the lineup next year so perhaps this is what he meant.
I don't think this would be telling of what the rest of the US festivals will have available, this could possibly be Coachella going a different route than usual... if this is true and that's a big IF.
I dunno man, I wouldnt think you're saving money on Beyonce/Weeknd/The Chainsmokers. Maybe only with the chainsmokers, and likely not much I'm sure they're asking for crazy amounts next year.
Post by Phyre Fest on Sept 10, 2017 23:18:11 GMT -5
Also I'm gonna be so pissed when I have to miss Jamiroquai, Aphex Twin, or Soulwax, in order to be front row for The Chainsmokers to throw shit at them.
It does make the headliner landscape for 2018 look bleak. Coach does set the bar in the U.S, and if they can't even scrap together a decent trio of headliners, that's a concerning.
If this ends up being true, my theory is that PT purposefully went this route to grab trio of pop-friendly acts so they could afford to jam pack the undercard with more special acts that they normally wouldn't have room for. Stuff they'd want to book over the more popular shitty acts. Book Beyoncé, The Weeknd and The Chainsmokers so they can include Aphex Twin, Jamiroquai, Misfits, Soulwax, Jawbreaker etc. Get some great rare artists while still meeting the bottom line with sales with those headliners. I'd be willing to sacrifice good headliners for names like that. PT did say in an interview he wanted to experiment more with the lineup next year so perhaps this is what he meant.
I don't think this would be telling of what the rest of the US festivals will have available, this could possibly be Coachella going a different route than usual... if this is true and that's a big IF.
This is what I'm wondering. What kind of undercard are they putting together with those HLers?
If this ends up being true, my theory is that PT purposefully went this route to grab trio of pop-friendly acts so they could afford to jam pack the undercard with more special acts that they normally wouldn't have room for. Stuff they'd want to book over the more popular shitty acts. Book Beyoncé, The Weeknd and The Chainsmokers so they can include Aphex Twin, Jamiroquai, Misfits, Soulwax, Jawbreaker etc. Get some great rare artists while still meeting the bottom line with sales with those headliners. I'd be willing to sacrifice good headliners for names like that. PT did say in an interview he wanted to experiment more with the lineup next year so perhaps this is what he meant.
I don't think this would be telling of what the rest of the US festivals will have available, this could possibly be Coachella going a different route than usual... if this is true and that's a big IF.
I dunno man, I wouldnt think you're saving money on Beyonce/Weeknd/The Chainsmokers. Maybe only with the chainsmokers, and likely not much I'm sure they're asking for crazy amounts next year.
It’s not about saving money on the headliners, just the kind of acts they’d spend money on for the undercard instead. Like instead of booking Lana Del Rey and HAIM, use that money for Massive Attack instead.
I think if they are going full on pop for the headliners then I would expect just as much cheese on the undercard as the last few years or maybe even more.
I don't buy it. The Weeknd practically headlined two years ago. He won't be back until next album cycle. And not even Bonnaroo would have the audacity to make The Chainsmokers a headliner.
Post by Fozzie Bear on Sept 11, 2017 6:19:38 GMT -5
The Weeknd seems possible to me. Coach has gotten headliners at the end of their touring cycles before (RHCP, Jack White). It'd be very lazy, but seems realistic to me.
The Chainsmokers would be such a punch in the groin. Maybe I'll go to Primavera this year if the lineup turns out to be meh.
Who goes to Coachella for the headliners anyways? I think the chainsmokers sub, personally. Good news is if they truly booked such a shitty top line, they'll make up for it in the middle. I really don't care either way. Still going. Still cool.
I don't buy it. The Weeknd practically headlined two years ago. He won't be back until next album cycle. And not even Bonnaroo would have the audacity to make The Chainsmokers a headliner.
You're right about the chainsmokers, but I could see The Weeknd taking the #1 spot this time around. New show + new music and hasn't technically headlined before. He's come a long way since 2015 even.
Who goes to Coachella for the headliners anyways? I think the chainsmokers sub, personally. Good news is if they truly booked such a shitty top line, they'll make up for it in the middle. I really don't care either way. Still going. Still cool.
I'd like at least one headliner I'd be excited to see. Beyoncé would be cool, but more a novelty for me. Id hope the undercard would be good. I've told my Coachella buds and girlfriend about the potential headliners and nearly all of them are disappointed to the point they'd sell their tickets. I'd say most people would want the headliners to be decent.
I just can't see them bumping a questionable pop headliner for a weekend already featuring two other pop headliners. It makes perfect sense for the chainsmokers to sub here and maybe even headline something like Firefly. This just doesn't follow their model at all so I'm not convinced.
I just can't see them bumping a questionable pop headliner for a weekend already featuring two other pop headliners. It makes perfect sense for the chainsmokers to sub here and maybe even headline something like Firefly. This just doesn't follow their model at all so I'm not convinced.
Agreed there, it seems very un-Coachella. But, to provide a counterpoint, almost no one believed Calvin Harris would headline when that leaked. But then...welp.
I just can't see them bumping a questionable pop headliner for a weekend already featuring two other pop headliners. It makes perfect sense for the chainsmokers to sub here and maybe even headline something like Firefly. This just doesn't follow their model at all so I'm not convinced.
Agreed there, it seems very un-Coachella. But, to provide a counterpoint, almost no one believed Calvin Harris would headline when that leaked. But then...welp.
The difference there was ACDC's presence though. Keep the faith.
If DM was real then Beyoncé - The Weeknd - Depeche Mode?
Edit: I would still skip all of the headliners in this case. Going in I know I'm just not that interested in catching Beyoncé. Especially with something rad in the tents.
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Agreed there, it seems very un-Coachella. But, to provide a counterpoint, almost no one believed Calvin Harris would headline when that leaked. But then...welp.
The difference there was ACDC's presence though. Keep the faith.
If DM was real then Beyoncé - The Weeknd - Depeche Mode?
Edit: I would still skip all of the headliners in this case. Going in I know I'm just not that interested in catching Beyoncé. Especially with something rad in the tents.
True, but they could be going with Beyoncé as the flashy headliner in this case. I'll wait and see, but honestly these headliners, while crappy, don't seem too far off the mark.
The Weeknd I can kind of believe. Dude is a massive star, hasn't played this album cycle, sells out arenas with 2x face aftermarket in LA, etc. It would be super lazy and I would have never predicted it with Beyonce on the bill, but I could see it.
The Chainsmokers I pretty much can't believe. PT has waited, and waited, and waited to book headliners in the past and I couldn't imagine him jumping at an act like them this early in the booking cycle to headline when he already has two pop headliners booked. How wouldn't you just make a promotion out of Arctic Monkeys or The National or take one of FYF's headliners?
Who goes to Coachella for the headliners anyways? I think the chainsmokers sub, personally. Good news is if they truly booked such a shitty top line, they'll make up for it in the middle. I really don't care either way. Still going. Still cool.
Post by The Foot Fuckin' Master on Sept 11, 2017 9:45:40 GMT -5
The Chainsmokers make perfect sense if you can picture most of the audience just being at the festival for the party. Didn't Calvin Harris attract the biggest crowd size of the festival back in 2016?
Also I'm gonna be so pissed when I have to miss Jamiroquai, Aphex Twin, or Soulwax, in order to be front row for The Chainsmokers to throw shit at them.
Hopefully they would get the Sunday headlining slot so if you got kicked the fuck out it wouldn't be a big deal.
Launchy and Horn are really making me feel like these are our headliners. Obviously it sucks. Let's hope the subs/undercard are strong enough to make up for the headliners. I would still go to this though. I loved Lemonade and Bey always puts on a great show. The Weeknd is not my favorite but in terms of pop stars we can do a lot worse and I haven't seen one of his shows (though he walked right past me at Coachella 16). Chainsmokers are obviously atrocious but that's what counterprogramming is for