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I went back to the good ole days by moving spots from my name on the list. Now I add 2 factors to decide how many spots and I will alternate directions each game. If I've eaten to much corn and can't do the math I vote Zig
Yes. I want Pablo in the runoff and I had to make it 5 in order to do that. Typically pushing a way runoff to 5 indicates mafia is trying to up their odds of survival. Not saying he is definitely mafia but I've seen this move enough times to run with it for now and include him.
We had 4 in the runoff: you, JR, Zolah, and Potent. Pablo expanded to 5 which I spoke earlier of often being a tactic used by mafia to dilute the pool and increase their survival odds. Under my theory at least 1 maybe 2 of the original 4 are mafia. I'm not in the way of having any idea who yet.
I personally don't care what the # is for a day 1 runoff, 3, 4, or 5 are all ok with me. What I want is the right people in to the best of our ability
Bottom line is I read your move to be a possible cover for a mafia in the runoff so I wanted you in also. You half assed an accusation for reasons known only to you, I saw something I found suspicious and I acted. I did figure someone would take it down to 4 after I put you in and that data will potentially also come in handy
I don't like his move to make the runoff 5. Like a few others I'm worried he might be protecting someone but unlike them I'm going to act on it
Was missing from Jaz's initial listing. I made my initial vote before that. I may have made a mistake in taking out dan, but he's been reading town to me, while two of the other original accused have voted for him in Day 2.
Alright the quietness here tells me that mafia is ok with Zolah being the lynch. JR putting the deciding vote on her has kind of rubbed me the wrong way. In fact, he's been rubbing me the wrong way this whole day. Not saying that I think LLL is mafia but I don't feel comfortable voting with JR. More importantly the quietness just screams that mafia is content with the way things are looking. I know it's late in the round but honestly I could care less.
As far as if Zolah is mafia why did no one save her, plenty of players have stated that they will coordinate to not have their other members save them. Myself and Lll did that last game. It may not be the way they want, but the option to maybe have someone else do it is better than outing themselves. Jr almost made it through last game, so I'm not going to just say "it's quiet that's what mafia wants". But I think if we are going to be basing things around the carini whack, we need to stick with the original runoff as much as possible (without having the exact same makeup).
I feel like everyone but Tainted had something to say on the last page, mostly questioning the make up of this RO, but no one made any real changes.
Yeah exactly. That means that mafia is content with the way things were going. Now both LLL and Zolah could easily be town. All I know is that JR is voting for Zolah which means that mafia is ok with her dying.
I feel like everyone but Tainted had something to say on the last page, mostly questioning the make up of this RO, but no one made any real changes.
Yeah exactly. That means that mafia is content with the way things were going. Now both LLL and Zolah could easily be town. All I know is that JR is voting for Zolah which means that mafia is ok with her dying.
I feel like everyone but Tainted had something to say on the last page, mostly questioning the make up of this RO, but no one made any real changes.
Yeah exactly. That means that mafia is content with the way things were going. Now both LLL and Zolah could easily be town. All I know is that JR is voting for Zolah which means that mafia is ok with her dying.
that's not necessarily true. and that's only true if you think JR is mafia (which I have had my doubts, but I think back to LLL's move which "saved" him but also gave potent his vote back, if she's mafia either of the other two could be imo; if she's not, mafia could easily have said look at her saving JR)
Yeah exactly. That means that mafia is content with the way things were going. Now both LLL and Zolah could easily be town. All I know is that JR is voting for Zolah which means that mafia is ok with her dying.
Are you saying that JR is Mafia?
Fuck I let that slip. I might be dead anyway now so fuck it.
Yes JR is mafia. I am the inspector.
I guessed Mad Dog over the night because I was suspicious of him voting for Pablo because I thought he had a town read. Mad Dog is town though.
Well I wasn't hoping it would come to this. At whatever point we started doing the 'is Carini inspector' line of questioning I was worried about someone faking/forcing me out (I did the same thing with Thor last round). Luckily, Carini did enough to force the '1-2 of 4' thing, and luckily Zolah didn't slip out again.
Zolah was my given. Tainted was my first guess. Dan is obviously my second I won't get.
From my notes (try not to dig too deep into my "maybes/possibles/guesses";
-D1R1: Pablo first, dan first stack, zolah first weird move stacks w/ zig and dan on potent. dan questions zolah responds "Thought this could create some movement for info. I thought about retaliating against JR and stacking him to 2, but I feel like that's my go to move. Trying something new here.". Danbob asks again if she will move since no one had. Carini does, ZIG and him even to 4. Pablo moves off ZIG, with ZIG to LLL (gives no reason). Carini and me question. ZIG moves back to 4. Zolahs response to dan amounted to him and ZIG could've moved.
Did not love Dan stacking so quick, Zolah kind of covered for him, and her being my given and making a big splashy move did enough to get me off of Dan (early I had him high lit as a possible guess).
-D1R2: I vote JR to force pablo and tainted to choose zolah, neither bites. zolah drops out. first guess likely pablo or jr
This was prior to Pablo being lynched. JR's reason for voting Zolah was "wife" and at the time I did have the thought that they would play the 'we're married and at each other's throats' as distancing. Later I settled my decision on Tainted due to him not choosing Zolah over Potent/Pablo when I tried to force one of them to not vote for her. When they both didn't I was a little bummed tbh.
-D1R3: ideal situation, jr votes pablo, potent votes jr. leaves zolah and dan as last voters; but JR doesn't vote pablo, leaving Zolah without having to make vote. zig/carini/taint all seem to be town. jr seems to be contradicting what he told me about 1 votes through day 1, even so far as showing everyone's number of votes and opting for the higher numbers. gut feeling Zolah, JR, Pablo. Possibly potent. LLL saves JR throws in Pablo
My ideal D1R3 involved Dan and Zolah as the re voters, JR didn't love that I voted for him, but my reasoning was I had Zolah's name and wanted to see where she went with it. JR votes the other way, not giving Zolah her vote back and then is "saved" by LLL. Did not appreciate either of that, and moved JR into my "first guess" lead with Pablo getting closer to lynching.
-D1R4: ok well, maybe not pablo, as i go out i will suggest. potent? lll? jr? went against my gut and went taint, "save" on zolah. so far not whacked. went for Taint because of him not voting zolah when presented and opting for pablo instead. shouldve guessed either jr or potent. if i make it another day going JR
Explanation of Taint whack. 'either JR or potent' would have been 100% JR, but the more I thought about LLL's move, as I stated earlier in the thread, it could been seen as a + to either JR/Potent if either of them was mafia. Now that we have impostor dan with Zolah, I'm not sure LLL is or isn't, but she could have been trying to make both JR or Potent look bad if she was mafia and they arent.
-D2R1: Votes seem to be reflecting "one of jr dan zolah and potent are mafia". zolah voting for dan, makes me think better about dan. zig looking at jaz, lll, taint. jr following zolah reenforces thoughts on him. potent stacking with me on lll kind of makes me think he might be still, but him and jr stacking zolah would be ridiculous if true. LLL stacking zolah seems like she may not be. taint kind of throws things, but honest mistake, potent jumping on it makes me suspicious of him.
With the new information, 100% potent and JR can't both be mafia. JR being named here makes it more difficult to gauge. Could go either way, don't like to get into the "mafia would/wouldn't do" game. I vote LLL here to test the waters, which is why I didn't vote for the accused, Jaz.
-D2R2: potents move gives zolah her vote back, also jr and dan who will drop out as is. LLL makes big post regarding me as suspicious. jaz suspects pablo was mafia, thinks we're going the wrong direction
Again, did not want, nor appreciate Zolah getting her vote back. Potent giving both Zolah AND dan their votes back is making me really suspicious of him. LLL's post kind of insinuating me was troublesome, but mostly because I was worried about being forced out (oh well). Jaz trying to convince everyone to re evaluate the accused gave me pause especially with him also seeming as though he agreed with carini.
-D2R3: will guess whoever doesn't vote zolah. right now jr is prime suspect. hoping that jaz gets whacked, he seems inspector-y. starting to suspect zig a lil. jaz with the very suspicious post. jr votes zolah, cant be sure if its not distancing .
Didn't get to add my dan moving to my notes, but boy was that a red flag. Him coming out immediately following just made it more clear. As far as jaz seeming inspectory, I was hoping the same-ish thing as what happened to Carini happened, I wanted a chance to guess again. I can't remember exactly off my head what the exact quote was with Zig, but I think it was him going back to tainted, who I had already cleared.
With the new 'reveal' JR could still maybe not be mafia I don't really know. I don't want to give out names, LD did that last game and it just played right into our hands.
