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Carini doesn't like the runoff being pushed to 5 but pushes the runoff to 5...
Yes. I want Pablo in the runoff and I had to make it 5 in order to do that. Typically pushing a way runoff to 5 indicates mafia is trying to up their odds of survival. Not saying he is definitely mafia but I've seen this move enough times to run with it for now and include him.
LLL was in the runoff. Then she wasn't. That was not surprising. What is ambiguous about this?
She was never in the runoff until YOU put her in. You're implying that you put her into the runoff because she fell out, but she never fell out of the runoff.
Lots of movement that I think will be more useful later in the game than now. Except perhaps to the inspector.
Zolah's brash early move threw our D1R1 status quo to the wind. Regardless of her intention, I think taking a bunch of people who play mafia together all the time and forcing them to play a little differently will benefit the town.
LLL was in the runoff. Then she wasn't. That was not surprising. What is ambiguous about this?
She was never in the runoff until YOU put her in. You're implying that you put her into the runoff because she fell out, but she never fell out of the runoff.
Lots of movement that I think will be more useful later in the game than now. Except perhaps to the inspector.
Zolah's brash early move threw our D1R1 status quo to the wind. Regardless of her intention, I think taking a bunch of people who play mafia together all the time and forcing them to play a little differently will benefit the town.
The play she made bumping me up to 3 is the only reason I'm still on her. I'm still deciding whether I think the town is better off with LLL in the runoff.
She was never in the runoff until YOU put her in. You're implying that you put her into the runoff because she fell out, but she never fell out of the runoff.
Except I'm not implying that at all.
Requoting sentence:
"The person who fell out ended up being the person I put in".
This sentence clearly reads to me that LLL fell out of the runoff and ended up being the person that you put back into the runoff. That wasn't the case so that is why I asked clarification. Based on your response, my interpretation isn't what you were saying so I'm trying to understand.
LLL was in the runoff when the runoff was five. She then ended up being the one of those five that fell out to put the runoff back at four. I expected one of the five to fall out, and it makes perfect sense to me that the person I put in the runoff would be the one to fall out to restore the previous status quo. Ultimately, my move did not have an effect on who was in the runoff.
Carini and Maddog's moves (and to some extent, ZIG's) have resulted in myself moving into the runoff and Danbob moving out. This is worth keeping an eye on, imo.
LLL was in the runoff when the runoff was five. She then ended up being the one of those five that fell out to put the runoff back at four. I expected one of the five to fall out, and it makes perfect sense to me that the person I put in the runoff would be the one to fall out to restore the previous status quo. Ultimately, my move did not have an effect on who was in the runoff.
Carini and Maddog's moves (and to some extent, ZIG's) have resulted in myself moving into the runoff and Danbob moving out. This is worth keeping an eye on, imo.
You're the person that farts and then complains that it smells like shit.
Carini and I made vote switches to get the runoff down to a 4-way. This meant both of us having single throwaway votes and being in position to revote in D1R2 (my single vote on LLL, Carini's on Maddog). You then decided to stack my single LLL vote and push her into the runoff and back up to a 5-way. So I moved again off LLL to a single vote onto you as a throwaway to AGAIN preserve a 4-way.
You trying to make it sound like LLL falling out of the runoff because you put her in the runoff is absurd. I had stated that I wanted a 4-way and had made 1 move to ensure that. When you fucked with the runoff, I had the opportunity to correct again and did it,
The runoff was set at Potent, JR, Zolah, Danbob. You would have been safe. YOU made a switch that players didn't like and ultimately got you stuck in the runoff. Stop trying to push blame onto other players' switches when those switches would not have happened had you stayed put. Cause and Effect.
LLL was in the runoff when the runoff was five. She then ended up being the one of those five that fell out to put the runoff back at four. I expected one of the five to fall out, and it makes perfect sense to me that the person I put in the runoff would be the one to fall out to restore the previous status quo. Ultimately, my move did not have an effect on who was in the runoff.
Carini and Maddog's moves (and to some extent, ZIG's) have resulted in myself moving into the runoff and Danbob moving out. This is worth keeping an eye on, imo.
So basically you just wanted me in the run-off instead of one of the other four players who were already there because I "skated by" last game (only because I was Mafia last game, because all of the games before that, I end up whacked or lynched within the first few rounds). I guess that really outlines what kind of power Mafia has in the game in determining who ends up in run-offs, who falls out, who makes it to the end, etc.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I wanted to affect vote changes. You (LLL) being in the runoff would have simply been a bonus. It was a bonus I wasn't counting on, that made perfect sense not occurring, as I have now said like five times.
My vote for dan originally meant nothing. Someone had to stack at some point, and at the time of my vote Zolah had oddly put Potent at 3. I put dan in since he was a part of that. Since then, things have started to even out and he has been pushing for things that benefit town, like questioning the 3 stack and the 5 ways.
Lots of movement that I think will be more useful later in the game than now. Except perhaps to the inspector.
Zolah's brash early move threw our D1R1 status quo to the wind. Regardless of her intention, I think taking a bunch of people who play mafia together all the time and forcing them to play a little differently will benefit the town.
The play she made bumping me up to 3 is the only reason I'm still on her. I'm still deciding whether I think the town is better off with LLL in the runoff.
It wasn't personal. You are all equally guilty to me at this point. You were just the one who had 2 votes at the time.
My vote for dan originally meant nothing. Someone had to stack at some point, and at the time of my vote Zolah had oddly put Potent at 3. I put dan in since he was a part of that. Since then, things have started to even out and he has been pushing for things that benefit town, like questioning the 3 stack and the 5 ways.
My vote for dan originally meant nothing. Someone had to stack at some point, and at the time of my vote Zolah had oddly put Potent at 3. I put dan in since he was a part of that. Since then, things have started to even out and he has been pushing for things that benefit town, like questioning the 3 stack and the 5 ways.
I feel fine with my vote switch.
I'm sorry.. what?
I could have put Dan, ZIG, or Zolah into it, I picked dan for no specific reason.
And based on your incredible play so far in this game, you're the last person who needs to be saying "I'm sorry..what?"
LLL because I don't want her skating by again, like Potent mentioned. Can you give more detail on what you mean by hiding someone in the runoff, Danbob?
-reason three - pissy at zig from last game, weird idea of how voting for LLL doesnt guarantee her in the runoff
Because I hate you. Jk, I was planning on moving off of you eventually, anyway. Opening with a vote in LLL doesn't guarantee she's in the runoff (it definitely raises the odds when the first vote is for her instead of zig). Later, she had a vote on her, and I put her in the runoff, albeit for a brief moment.
I wanted to affect vote changes. You (LLL) being in the runoff would have simply been a bonus. It was a bonus I wasn't counting on, that made perfect sense not occurring, as I have now said like five times.
Post by piggy pablo on Aug 7, 2017 10:47:34 GMT -5
Potent: When I said I wanted LLL in to stop her skating by, I was responding to Danbob's question about why her in particular. I had her and Maddog to choose from. Of those two, of course I'd pick her. Between her and Zolah, I'm not so sure. I wouldn't mind, but it's up to you.
I'd almost rather you put Danbob back in since I'm a little sketched out by him coming out. Just barely, but LLL coming back out doesn't mean all that much to me. It was just a return to the way things were before. Overall, it's too early to say who is Mafia. It's just better for the Inspector to have more things to look at than less. Do you. If you move to LLL, I won't move off or anything.
Potent: When I said I wanted LLL in to stop her skating by, I was responding to Danbob's question about why her in particular. I had her and Maddog to choose from. Of those two, of course I'd pick her. Between her and Zolah, I'm not so sure. I wouldn't mind, but it's up to you.
I'd almost rather you put Danbob back in since I'm a little sketched out by him coming out. Just barely, but LLL coming back out doesn't mean all that much to me. It was just a return to the way things were before. Overall, it's too early to say who is Mafia. It's just better for the Inspector to have more things to look at than less. Do you. If you move to LLL, I won't move off or anything.
If you are so "sketched" by me... Who would you have rather have seen drop out?
My two cents, strongly related to those I've shared in the past. I don't like judging one game on a previous game. The fact that LLL skated by last game (mwa ha ha) doesn't have a bearing on this game. The fact that she's a dangerous player in general does though. Pablo's wording has been a little bit willy-nilly, but I also see a bit of a yellow flag on Maddog's analysis. None of Pablo's reasoning is really contradictory. Reason 3 wasn't even a reason, it was, as Maddog put it, a "weird idea".
LLL because I don't want her skating by again, like Potent mentioned. Can you give more detail on what you mean by hiding someone in the runoff, Danbob?
-reason three - pissy at zig from last game, weird idea of how voting for LLL doesnt guarantee her in the runoff (because it doesn't and that's not the only point of the move?)
Because I hate you. Jk, I was planning on moving off of you eventually, anyway. Opening with a vote in LLL doesn't guarantee she's in the runoff (it definitely raises the odds when the first vote is for her instead of zig). Later, she had a vote on her, and I put her in the runoff, albeit for a brief moment.
-reason four - vote changes, LLL bonus (pretty much just a summary of what my thought process was)
I wanted to affect vote changes. You (LLL) being in the runoff would have simply been a bonus. It was a bonus I wasn't counting on, that made perfect sense not occurring, as I have now said like five times.
