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The talent booker is doing an AMA- highlights include him saying he really wanted REM to play this year but it didn't work out and that he reaches out to Daft Punk every year and that they'll be back one day
My favorite part: Do you go to Lolla for the whole festival every year? Do you have to work during the festival itself?
Most importantly: do you have a favorite lolla show of all time (excluding PJ, since you've already said they're your favorite band)?
6 lollaofficial • 5h I go every year - fav show was rage
Coachella, Panorama, Pitchfork and Moogfest are doing a best job building out lineups with female artists from top to bottom.
Day for Night is there as well. Add in the Friday panel and I think it may be the most intentionally pro-woman and pro-gay and pro-all gender inclusive festival there is/was Jmo but it seemed like the right statement and the right way to end 2017 which will hopefully always be remembered as a watershed year between the sexes. There’s always shit to reckon with, but clearly last year was accelerated.
Coachella, Panorama, Pitchfork and Moogfest are doing a best job building out lineups with female artists from top to bottom.
I completely agree. I was shocked at Lolla this year (though I expected it based off of the rumors here and on Reddit), but they tended to have women headliners (or in the top 6-8), so that was more of the surprise to me. Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs, Lady Gaga, Florence x2, Lorde, the xx, Arcade Fire x2, Lana, LCD, etc. all off of the top of my head.
Coachella, Panorama, Pitchfork and Moogfest are doing a best job building out lineups with female artists from top to bottom.
Day for Night is there as well. Add in the Friday panel and I think it may be the most intentionally pro-woman and pro-gay and pro-all gender inclusive festival there is/was Jmo but it seemed like the right statement and the right way to end 2017 which will hopefully always be remembered as a watershed year between the sexes. There’s always shit to reckon with, but clearly last year was accelerated.
I need to get to Day for Night. Not going the last two years was just plain dumb on my part, especially seeing what these US 2018 lineups look like.
Thought the Lolla buyer guy made a good point, that there are a lot of female based smaller bands that are very good but arent necessarily at the top of the bill. This doesnt exactly work for this festival specifically but a lot of the music I have been listening to a ton recently has been by women bands that I think are really really good (Alvvays, US Girls, Kelly Lee Owens, Japanese Breakfast), but arent even close to popular enough to be in the top 6 rows of a Lolla lineup.
I think part of the problem is talent buyers and organizers saying "Oh female artists and female led groups? There aren't any big enough right now." That mantra feeds itself. Headliners are understandbly tougher but a top 15 with the first female act appearing at 15 seems like a big swing and a miss.
Think there are a lot of different influences from the festival community that result in fest booking 1 female act in the top 15. First, festivals are dying to try to find some actual big name rock bands that arent re-treads to come do their fests because a large segment of the audience wants rock bands of some kind. So of the biggest named female rock bands you have Florence, The XX (not really rock but close enough), Yeah Yeah Yeahs, then who? Maybe Evanescence is the next biggest one, or St. Vincent, HAIM, or Chvrches?
Then you have the other major genre of influence right now which is Rap. In terms of female acts that are high up for Rap right now its Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, Missy Elliot, and Lauryn Hill, maybe Janelle Monae if you call her a rapper.
If you miss with these few bands or rappers that the music industry has made popular enough, then you really dont have a ton of choices to go with. Lolla's lineup this year in the first 15 is 11 rappers or rock bands, and of those 11, 10 of them are men. Thats kinda what happens when these are the two genres that people really make bookers focus on at these festivals.
Remember this about Coachella. They got an artist who I think is one of the 3 or 4 greatest live performers I have ever seen, in Beyonce, and the headlines after the festival dropped was "Popchella" or some shit that was saying how Pop the festival has gotten. If you are gonna get pissed off at Beyonce headlining Coachella, Halsey being top 6 at a ton of festivals, then you are really limiting how many women are going to get booked highly for these fests until Rock and Rap becomes more inclusive to more genders
I think part of the problem is talent buyers and organizers saying "Oh female artists and female led groups? There aren't any big enough right now." That mantra feeds itself. Headliners are understandbly tougher but a top 15 with the first female act appearing at 15 seems like a big swing and a miss.
Think there are a lot of different influences from the festival community that result in fest booking 1 female act in the top 15. First, festivals are dying to try to find some actual big name rock bands that arent re-treads to come do their fests because a large segment of the audience wants rock bands of some kind. So of the biggest named female rock bands you have Florence, The XX (not really rock but close enough), Yeah Yeah Yeahs, then who? Maybe Evanescence is the next biggest one, or St. Vincent, HAIM, or Chvrches?
Then you have the other major genre of influence right now which is Rap. In terms of female acts that are high up for Rap right now its Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, Missy Elliot, and Lauryn Hill, maybe Janelle Monae if you call her a rapper.
If you miss with these few bands or rappers that the music industry has made popular enough, then you really dont have a ton of choices to go with. Lolla's lineup this year in the first 15 is 11 rappers or rock bands, and of those 11, 10 of them are men. Thats kinda what happens when these are the two genres that people really make bookers focus on at these festivals.
Remember this about Coachella. They got an artist who I think is one of the 3 or 4 greatest live performers I have ever seen, in Beyonce, and the headlines after the festival dropped was "Popchella" or some shit that was saying how Pop the festival has gotten. If you are gonna get pissed off at Beyonce headlining Coachella, Halsey being top 6 at a ton of festivals, then you are really limiting how many women are going to get booked highly for these fests until Rock and Rap becomes more inclusive to more genders
Good post. I agree that people cannot have it both ways - i.e., wanting more women yet complain about lineups being too poppy/top 40 mainstream.
Frankly, it's still going to take a little while before the current crop of upcoming female talent makes their way to the top of the bill. Though I appreciate festivals taking commercial risks by trying new things and placing untested (female) acts at the top.
Post by Fitter Happier on Mar 21, 2018 22:22:47 GMT -5
Too many conflicts in the OP.
Edit: And I don't even see Iron & Wine, Saul Williams, and Manchester Orchestra on that version of the poster -- all of which I know I saw that year. Damn, emoney take me back to 2008.
Think there are a lot of different influences from the festival community that result in fest booking 1 female act in the top 15. First, festivals are dying to try to find some actual big name rock bands that arent re-treads to come do their fests because a large segment of the audience wants rock bands of some kind. So of the biggest named female rock bands you have Florence, The XX (not really rock but close enough), Yeah Yeah Yeahs, then who? Maybe Evanescence is the next biggest one, or St. Vincent, HAIM, or Chvrches?
Then you have the other major genre of influence right now which is Rap. In terms of female acts that are high up for Rap right now its Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, Missy Elliot, and Lauryn Hill, maybe Janelle Monae if you call her a rapper.
If you miss with these few bands or rappers that the music industry has made popular enough, then you really dont have a ton of choices to go with. Lolla's lineup this year in the first 15 is 11 rappers or rock bands, and of those 11, 10 of them are men. Thats kinda what happens when these are the two genres that people really make bookers focus on at these festivals.
Remember this about Coachella. They got an artist who I think is one of the 3 or 4 greatest live performers I have ever seen, in Beyonce, and the headlines after the festival dropped was "Popchella" or some shit that was saying how Pop the festival has gotten. If you are gonna get pissed off at Beyonce headlining Coachella, Halsey being top 6 at a ton of festivals, then you are really limiting how many women are going to get booked highly for these fests until Rock and Rap becomes more inclusive to more genders
Good post. I agree that people cannot have it both ways - i.e., wanting more women yet complain about lineups being too poppy/top 40 mainstream.
Frankly, it's still going to take a little while before the current crop of upcoming female talent makes their way to the top of the bill. Though I appreciate festivals taking commercial risks by trying new things and placing untested (female) acts at the top.
I see your point towards a lot of folks who are against the pop headliners but I'd like to personally remove myself from that group. This is honestly the first time I am hearing the term "Popchella." While I really have no interest in Bey, I still think she is a good choice, as was her last minute replacement in Lady Gaga, and I also think Janet Jackson is a good move for Pano. I didn't like Halsey being a HL choice for Okeechobee because I just didn't think she is that great. Scouring through line ups of present and past feels cumbersome but I really don't think the pool is as thin as being portrayed. I'm not saying that Lolla/LN personally have it out for female artists either. It is just something that still happens and should still be made aware. Even David Byrne admits the complete lacking of female contribution in his latest album, for which he apologized.
Good post. I agree that people cannot have it both ways - i.e., wanting more women yet complain about lineups being too poppy/top 40 mainstream.
Frankly, it's still going to take a little while before the current crop of upcoming female talent makes their way to the top of the bill. Though I appreciate festivals taking commercial risks by trying new things and placing untested (female) acts at the top.
I see your point towards a lot of folks who are against the pop headliners but I'd like to personally remove myself from that group. This is honestly the first time I am hearing the term "Popchella." While I really have no interest in Bey, I still think she is a good choice, as was her last minute replacement in Lady Gaga, and I also think Janet Jackson is a good move for Pano. I didn't like Halsey being a HL choice for Okeechobee because I just didn't think she is that great. Scouring through line ups of present and past feels cumbersome but I really don't think the pool is as thin as being portrayed. I'm not saying that Lolla/LN personally have it out for female artists either. It is just something that still happens and should still be made aware. Even David Byrne admits the complete lacking of female contribution in his latest album, for which he apologized.
Edit: Googled "Top DJs" and....*sighs*
While EDM only has acts like Rezz, Alison Wonderland, Tokimonsta, etc. for female representation, the underground electronic scene has quite a wealth of popular, great women. Hell, near or half of Coachella's Yuma lineup will be women this year.
I see your point towards a lot of folks who are against the pop headliners but I'd like to personally remove myself from that group. This is honestly the first time I am hearing the term "Popchella." While I really have no interest in Bey, I still think she is a good choice, as was her last minute replacement in Lady Gaga, and I also think Janet Jackson is a good move for Pano. I didn't like Halsey being a HL choice for Okeechobee because I just didn't think she is that great. Scouring through line ups of present and past feels cumbersome but I really don't think the pool is as thin as being portrayed. I'm not saying that Lolla/LN personally have it out for female artists either. It is just something that still happens and should still be made aware. Even David Byrne admits the complete lacking of female contribution in his latest album, for which he apologized.
Edit: Googled "Top DJs" and....*sighs*
While EDM only has acts like Rezz, Alison Wonderland, Tokimonsta, etc. for female representation, the underground electronic scene has quite a wealth of popular, great women. Hell, near or half of Coachella's Yuma lineup will be women this year.
Day for Night did a hell of a job with a diverse line up which included a few djs I'm now down with that I really didn't know of before the fest. It is certainly a somewhat % of supply and demand that should dimish as more women enter and become popular w the genres. On the other side of the spectrum, a brief look at any jam line up seems even more barren.
While EDM only has acts like Rezz, Alison Wonderland, Tokimonsta, etc. for female representation, the underground electronic scene has quite a wealth of popular, great women. Hell, near or half of Coachella's Yuma lineup will be women this year.
Day for Night did a hell of a job with a diverse line up which included a few djs I'm now down with that I really didn't know of before the fest. It is certainly a somewhat % of supply and demand that should dimish as more women enter and become popular w the genres. On the other side of the spectrum, a brief look at any jam line up seems even more barren.
Oh yeah, jam seems very male dominated. House and techno are two of the genres seemingly most welcoming of both women and minority groups, interestingly enough.
While EDM only has acts like Rezz, Alison Wonderland, Tokimonsta, etc. for female representation, the underground electronic scene has quite a wealth of popular, great women. Hell, near or half of Coachella's Yuma lineup will be women this year.
Day for Night did a hell of a job with a diverse line up which included a few djs I'm now down with that I really didn't know of before the fest. It is certainly a somewhat % of supply and demand that should dimish as more women enter and become popular w the genres. On the other side of the spectrum, a brief look at any jam line up seems even more barren.
The lead singers of funk band Turkuaz come to mind as do Natalie Cressman and Jennifer Hartswick who both play with everyone - often as artists at large. You always have bluegrass/country crossover with stuff like Allison Krauss and bluesier stuff like Samantha Fish or Susan Tedeschi (and TTB). Then there are female fronted bands like Orgone, The Suffers or Alabama Shakes - none of which are jam per se' but usually tend to play more jam-oriented lineups.
As for your point on Day for Night and its diversity (and including the Friday panel as noted in my earlier post), you literally had lots of women and gender fluid (?) artists:
Friday lecture and some performance: Chelsea Manning, Laurie Anderson, Lauren McCarthy, Jenny Hval, Nadya from Panda Riot
Saturday/Sunday music: St. Vincent, Solange, Laurie Anderson, Phantogram, Panda Riot, Nina Kravitz, Rezz, (fuck her but) Cardi B, of Montreal, Princess Nokia, Kimbra, Jlin, Priests, Faten Kanaan which I think all contributed a little bit to diversity - at least they did to me.
Day for Night did a hell of a job with a diverse line up which included a few djs I'm now down with that I really didn't know of before the fest. It is certainly a somewhat % of supply and demand that should dimish as more women enter and become popular w the genres. On the other side of the spectrum, a brief look at any jam line up seems even more barren.
The lead singers of funk band Turkuaz come to mind as do Natalie Cressman and Jennifer Hartswick who both play with everyone - often as artists at large. You always have bluegrass/country crossover with stuff like Allison Krauss and bluesier stuff like Samantha Fish or Susan Tedeschi (and TTB). Then there are female fronted bands like Orgone, The Suffers or Alabama Shakes - none of which are jam per se' but usually tend to play more jam-oriented lineups.
As for your point on Day for Night and its diversity (and including the Friday panel as noted in my earlier post), you literally had lots of women and gender fluid (?) artists:
Friday lecture and some performance: Chelsea Manning, Laurie Anderson, Lauren McCarthy, Jenny Hval, Nadya from Panda Riot
Saturday/Sunday music: St. Vincent, Solange, Laurie Anderson, Phantogram, Panda Riot, Nina Kravitz, Rezz, (fuck her but) Cardi B, of Montreal, Princess Nokia, Kimbra, Jlin, Priests, Faten Kanaan which I think all contributed a little bit to diversity - at least they did to me.
I love Allison Krauss but she is absolutely not a festival act IMO. She is far and away best as a headliner at a upscale theatre or ampitheatre. Shes been playing with Willie Nelson over the last 3 or 4 years a lot, and shes been the opener, and so many people were talking during her opening set and it was to the point where its hard to hear her over the talking especially because she can have a soft voice at times.
TTB is great too, but they are in the realm of Dave Matthews kinda where they have a really really hardcore fan base that will come out to their solo shows and pay idk $100 a ticket or something like that and drive up their booking fee to above what most fests would pay. They are essentially the 4th biggest band at Lock'n and people were a little disappointed that there wasnt a "bigger name"
That surprises me a little about Lockn' because you'd think most of the fans would at least be semi-satisfied with TTB. I only saw them once (Jazz Fest 16 I think), but I was pleasantly surprised.
I see your point towards a lot of folks who are against the pop headliners but I'd like to personally remove myself from that group. This is honestly the first time I am hearing the term "Popchella." While I really have no interest in Bey, I still think she is a good choice, as was her last minute replacement in Lady Gaga, and I also think Janet Jackson is a good move for Pano. I didn't like Halsey being a HL choice for Okeechobee because I just didn't think she is that great. Scouring through line ups of present and past feels cumbersome but I really don't think the pool is as thin as being portrayed. I'm not saying that Lolla/LN personally have it out for female artists either. It is just something that still happens and should still be made aware. Even David Byrne admits the complete lacking of female contribution in his latest album, for which he apologized.
Edit: Googled "Top DJs" and....*sighs*
While EDM only has acts like Rezz, Alison Wonderland, Tokimonsta, etc. for female representation, the underground electronic scene has quite a wealth of popular, great women. Hell, near or half of Coachella's Yuma lineup will be women this year.
beat me too it. certain critics/gatekeepers in the underground electronic scenes, as well as fans, seem to be making a concerted effort to shine a spotlight on non-white male artists. which is great, because it's through critics and publications that I find out about artists, so over the past couple of years I've been introduced to a slew of female DJs that have rapidly become favorites. some are newer maybe, but many are artists that have been at it for several to double digit years, and are finally starting to get some attention.
My guess is they're waiting until those sell out to list the single day passes?
Maybe they’re selling more 4 days this year because of how soft the single day sales were for Thursday and Sunday last year. Hard to imagine sales softened this much year over year.
I think part of the problem is talent buyers and organizers saying "Oh female artists and female led groups? There aren't any big enough right now." That mantra feeds itself. Headliners are understandbly tougher but a top 15 with the first female act appearing at 15 seems like a big swing and a miss.
Think there are a lot of different influences from the festival community that result in fest booking 1 female act in the top 15. First, festivals are dying to try to find some actual big name rock bands that arent re-treads to come do their fests because a large segment of the audience wants rock bands of some kind. So of the biggest named female rock bands you have Florence, The XX (not really rock but close enough), Yeah Yeah Yeahs, then who? Maybe Evanescence is the next biggest one, or St. Vincent, HAIM, or Chvrches?
Then you have the other major genre of influence right now which is Rap. In terms of female acts that are high up for Rap right now its Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, Missy Elliot, and Lauryn Hill, maybe Janelle Monae if you call her a rapper.
If you miss with these few bands or rappers that the music industry has made popular enough, then you really dont have a ton of choices to go with. Lolla's lineup this year in the first 15 is 11 rappers or rock bands, and of those 11, 10 of them are men. Thats kinda what happens when these are the two genres that people really make bookers focus on at these festivals.
Remember this about Coachella. They got an artist who I think is one of the 3 or 4 greatest live performers I have ever seen, in Beyonce, and the headlines after the festival dropped was "Popchella" or some shit that was saying how Pop the festival has gotten. If you are gonna get pissed off at Beyonce headlining Coachella, Halsey being top 6 at a ton of festivals, then you are really limiting how many women are going to get booked highly for these fests until Rock and Rap becomes more inclusive to more genders
There's actually quite a few options when you start to think outside the box and dig deep. They just need to be more creative in their bookings and thinking since a few of these acts don't do many festivals if at all. Some of the acts aren't necessarily headliner or even sub material but they'd definitely shore up the 3rd-5th lines of any lineup.
Legacy/Older Acts: Fleetwood Mac, Annie Lennox/Eurythmics, Janet Jackson, Blondie, Joan Jett & the Blackhearts, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Pretenders, Pat Benatar Vets: Gwen Stefani/No Doubt, Missy Elliott, P!nk, Bjork, Sheryl Crow, Fiona Apple, Lauryn Hill, Alanis Morissette, Joss Stone, Evanescence, Garbage, Sleater-Kinney, Grace Potter & the Nocturnals, Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Current Alt/Rock/Indie: Florence+the Machine, Alabama Shakes, Paramore (though they're trending pop), The XX, Of Monsters and Men, Beach House, CHVRCHES, HAIM, St. Vincent, Tegan & Sara, The Head & the Heart
Current Pop/R&B: Beyonce, Adele, Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Sia, Lorde, Alicia Keys, Katy Perry (Kaaboo just booked her), Shakira, Lana Del Rey, Nicki Minaj, The Black Eyed Peas, Ariana Grande, Ellie Goulding, Halsey, Demi Lovato, Ke$ha, Dua Lipa
Mid-Acts: Amy McDonald, Tove Lo, Jenny Lewis, Jessie J, Phantogram, Regina Spektor, The Pretty Reckless, Matt & Kim, Echosmith, Sara Bareilles, Misterwives..
One only needs to look at the massively successful Rock in Rio festivals in Rio, Lisbon, and Madrid to see that they quite often book pop acts (and females) on a regular basis and I don't know why that doesn't happen here. Rock in Rio 2013 for example had Beyonce, Muse, Justin Timberlake, Metallica, Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, and Iron Maiden as the headliners (with Alicia Keys & Florence+Machine as two of the subs).
Life is Beautiful '13, '14, '15, '16, '17, '18 | Rock in Rio USA '15 | ACL '16 Ohana Fest '16 | Arroyo Seco '17 | CalJam '17 | Lost Lake '17 Lollapalooza '18 | Kaaboo Texas '19
Recent/Upcoming/Planning: 3/22 - Catfish & The Bottlemen 4/16 - CHVRCHES 5/17 - Florence + the Machine 7/23 - The Head and the Heart 8/20 - Kacey Musgraves 9/20-22 - Life is Beautiful Festival 10/4 - Ingrid Michaelson
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