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“But she’s lip-syncing” is both an incredibly lazy and not really accurate criticism. That’s the issue.
She sampled Nina Simone, Fela Kuti, and Sister Nancy, covered Dawn Penn’s “You Don’t Love Me”, reunited with Destiny’s Child, played the whole set with a freaking sick HBCU marching band, which involved remixing her songs to suit the band, took no breaks for two hours, referenced Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, etc etc and all people can come up with was “she was lip syncing” (she wasn’t) and the band wasn’t plugged in (if you could see that you were focused on the wrong damn thing).
The only reasonable criticism I’ve heard is King T saying HCBU bands are boring. That’s crazy, but at least it makes logical sense.
Why do you think my critique is only with HBCU bands? HBCU bands are certainly more entertaining than regular marching bands but after a while, they both get boring. KEY PHRASE: after a while. They're great for 15 minute half time shows or for stuff in between plays.
Plus, defending lip syncing is just stupid. The theatrics were cool (and we don't even know how much of that she was responsible for), but unless her voice was dead or someone made her, lip syncing is just insulting and lazy. Every live performer should be able to perform on their own and if they can't, then it's not a live musical performance; it's just a show.
Well you also declared the whole performance overrated without even watching it, but I was trying to be fair.
Why do you think my critique is only with HBCU bands? HBCU bands are certainly more entertaining than regular marching bands but after a while, they both get boring. KEY PHRASE: after a while. They're great for 15 minute half time shows or for stuff in between plays.
Plus, defending lip syncing is just stupid. The theatrics were cool (and we don't even know how much of that she was responsible for), but unless her voice was dead or someone made her, lip syncing is just insulting and lazy. Every live performer should be able to perform on their own and if they can't, then it's not a live musical performance; it's just a show.
Well you also declared the whole performance overrated without even watching it, but I was trying to be fair.
I said overhyped when referring to the articles because they said very little about the performance and just talked about Beyoncé instead. Read my posts closer.
Giving Beyoncé credit for sound technicians work lmao
Not giving Beyonce credit for putting that thing together and hiring the right people and pulling it off flawlessly lmao. And also acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about vs. Questlove lmao.
Giving Beyoncé credit for sound technicians work lmao
Not giving Beyonce credit for putting that thing together and hiring the right people and pulling it off flawlessly lmao. And also acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about vs. Questlove lmao.
Post by manoverboard on Apr 15, 2018 18:05:51 GMT -5
Watching Magic Giant right now. I'm very impressed that for a crowd of like 100 people, these guys have them in the palm of their hands. They've got everyone on their feet and dancing. Never heard of these guys before, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them gaining some traction by next festival season.
Not giving Beyonce credit for putting that thing together and hiring the right people and pulling it off flawlessly lmao. And also acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about vs. Questlove lmao.
”he’s a musician w similar level of performance and technical experience as Beyonce or other headliners in the business so there is a much higher chance he is right”
Not giving Beyonce credit for putting that thing together and hiring the right people and pulling it off flawlessly lmao. And also acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about vs. Questlove lmao.
”he’s a musician so he must be right”
Not just a musician he is a band leader as a profession. I don't put as much stock in Chance saying it was the best show he's ever seen.
Not just a musician he is a band leader as a profession. I don't put as much stock in Chance saying it was the best show he's ever seen.
He is also a Beyonce dick rider.
Beyonce could have gone on stage and pushed out a fat log and you guys still would've called it great. She's a great pop star and performer but this was not up to par to what she's capable of. Not to mention, it really isn't hard to "hire the right people" to fucking run wires and mix when you're the biggest pop star in the world. I'm sure she even outsourced the hiring of all that. She most likely designed what she wanted with the marching band, but again, I found it boring after a while.
I'm glad you guys enjoyed it but I felt it was too glitzy and lacked the musicianship that we all know she's capable of.
Watching Magic Giant right now. I'm very impressed that for a crowd of like 100 people, these guys have them in the palm of their hands. They've got everyone on their feet and dancing. Never heard of these guys before, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them gaining some traction by next festival season.
For some reason, they kept following and unfollowing me on instagram so I blocked them. It's my least favorite promotion method.
Not just a musician he is a band leader as a profession. I don't put as much stock in Chance saying it was the best show he's ever seen.
He is also a Beyonce dick rider.
Beyonce could have gone on stage and pushed out a fat log and you guys still would've called it great. She's a great pop star and performer but this was not up to par to what she's capable of. Not to mention, it really isn't hard to "hire the right people" to fucking run wires and mix when you're the biggest pop star in the world. I'm sure she even outsourced the hiring of all that. She most likely designed what she wanted with the marching band, but again, I found it boring after a while.
I'm glad you guys enjoyed it but I felt it was too glitzy and lacked the musicianship that we all know she's capable of.
Feel like I should tell you I've enjoyed reading your stuff since you're getting ready to be banned for being somewhat negative towards Beyonce.
First time in a few years I didn't catch any of the streams. Anything noteworthy I should look up?
Beyonce could have gone on stage and pushed out a fat log and you guys still would've called it great. She's a great pop star and performer but this was not up to par to what she's capable of. Not to mention, it really isn't hard to "hire the right people" to fucking run wires and mix when you're the biggest pop star in the world. I'm sure she even outsourced the hiring of all that. She most likely designed what she wanted with the marching band, but again, I found it boring after a while.
I'm glad you guys enjoyed it but I felt it was too glitzy and lacked the musicianship that we all know she's capable of.
Feel like I should tell you I've enjoyed reading your stuff since you're getting ready to be banned for being somewhat negative towards Beyonce.
First time in a few years I didn't catch any of the streams. Anything noteworthy I should look up?
Lol Yonce fans in here do overrate here but they respect my right to an opinion enough not to ban me.
Not just a musician he is a band leader as a profession. I don't put as much stock in Chance saying it was the best show he's ever seen.
He is also a Beyonce dick rider.
Beyonce could have gone on stage and pushed out a fat log and you guys still would've called it great. She's a great pop star and performer but this was not up to par to what she's capable of. Not to mention, it really isn't hard to "hire the right people" to fucking run wires and mix when you're the biggest pop star in the world. I'm sure she even outsourced the hiring of all that. She most likely designed what she wanted with the marching band, but again, I found it boring after a while.
I'm glad you guys enjoyed it but I felt it was too glitzy and lacked the musicianship that we all know she's capable of.
I wouldn't have. The only Beyonce album I've listened to more than a couple times is Lemonade. Even then I didn't praise it as much as most people here. I know a great show when I see one. Anyone denying it is wrong.
Oh. My. God. bugs bunny funny moments, this is getting embarrassing. It's fine that you don't like but disqualifying industry professionals' qualified opinions on the technical achievement of the event is just ridiculous.
It didn't impress you. We get it. There's no way you're going to argue your way into convincing others who have seen it that it was "meh."
Beyonce could have gone on stage and pushed out a fat log and you guys still would've called it great. She's a great pop star and performer but this was not up to par to what she's capable of. Not to mention, it really isn't hard to "hire the right people" to fucking run wires and mix when you're the biggest pop star in the world. I'm sure she even outsourced the hiring of all that. She most likely designed what she wanted with the marching band, but again, I found it boring after a while.
I'm glad you guys enjoyed it but I felt it was too glitzy and lacked the musicianship that we all know she's capable of.
I wouldn't have. The only Beyonce album I've listened to more than a couple times is Lemonade. Even then I didn't praise it as much as most people here. I know a great show when I see one. Anyone denying it is wrong.
Great show on it's own; disappointing by Beyonce standards or by someone who has the resources she has, but to say people who don't like it are wrong is dumb and immature. Some people just prefer pure musicianship by the performer which I think this lacked.
Oh. My. God. bugs bunny funny moments , this is getting embarrassing. It's fine that you don't like but disqualifying industry professionals' qualified opinions on the technical achievement of the event is just ridiculous.
It didn't impress you. We get it. There's no way you're going to argue your way into convincing others who have seen it that it was "meh."
I dunno, I thought “Questlove doesn’t know what he’s talking about” was a solid rhetorical strategy.
I'm saying Beyonce had nothing to do with the technical ability that went into it and he's misplacing the credit. It's like you guys are TRYING to misread my posts.
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Apr 15, 2018 18:28:51 GMT -5
It is funny how the tables have turned on Beyonce in the years I’ve been posting here. I used to be able to troll the headliner thread into a straight up frenzy by merely suggesting her, now most posters seem to know what’s up.