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Post by trantsgiving on Sept 20, 2018 9:39:26 GMT -5
This draft is so much bigger of a toss up then the past ones. Any combo of those remaining could go through and I’m not sure if I’d be surprised by any of them.
Wow I am very pleased my festival made it to round three! Really super unexpected. Thanks all for the votes.
The benefit of a sweet ass poster.
i don't understand why more festival posters don't have pictures of things at the festival. camping, corn dogs, ice creams, etc. i think it helps potential attendees visualize the good times they will have at P.O.S.T.
This draft is so much bigger of a toss up then the past ones. Any combo of those remaining could go through and I’m not sure if I’d be surprised by any of them.
I'd honestly be surprised if 3post1jack1 won just because a lot of participants regularly did not know who he was drafting. That doesn't mean his lineup is bad - how the fuck would I know since I didn't recognize a bunch of his lineup - but it is a big gamble being that focused on one genre. (See: sang_xcx's performance and his was better known and he eventually made an effort to diversify it.)
This draft is so much bigger of a toss up then the past ones. Any combo of those remaining could go through and I’m not sure if I’d be surprised by any of them.
I'd honestly be surprised if 3post1jack1 won just because a lot of participants regularly did not know who he was drafting. That doesn't mean his lineup is bad - how the fuck would I know since I didn't recognize a bunch of his lineup - but it is a big gamble being that focused on one genre. (See: sang_xcx's performance and his was better known and he eventually made an effort to diversify it.)
i can't speak specifically to why my fest has made it this far, but generally speaking I think hardcore live music fans like for a festival (1) to have a specific identity and (2) to offer acts that challenge their musical tastes, and I think these ideas go together. A specific festival identity makes potential attendees "trust" the festival more, even if a lot of the undercard is unrecognizable.
Think about how we used to react to Bonnaroo lineups, back when Bonnaroo was less like every other big festival. The lineup would drop, you see some headliners you like and some undercard acts you like, and likely a bunch of undercard acts you don't recognize. But because you trust Bonnaroo, you get excited about delving into all these unknown names, because you trust that Bonnaroo will offer you a creative, exciting, and wacky experience. You spend the ensuing months reading recommendations for artists, delving into their catalogs, and discovering new favorites. But since Bonnaroo has become more like other big fests we are less likely to trust an unrecognizable undercard.
Similarly festivals like D4N were generally beloved by Inforoo because it was a very specific and cool thing. It's not even really about genre monolithicity, more about an overall tone and "vibe" of the festival.
I like to draw parallels between two of my favorite festivals: Jazzfest and Movement. Genre-wise they couldn't be more different, but both festivals draw from the culture of the city they grew up in, and offer a unique festival experience you aren't going to find anywhere else. Many people that show up to Jazzfest for the first time do so for a specific big headliner or two, and couldn't know less about the rich undercard filled with local talent or international artists, but they will find themselves stepping into the gospel tent or walking by the jazz and heritage stage and going "holy shit this is incredible". It's so different than what they are used to, but the music is just so good that the attraction is undeniable.
Movement is the same way, even if people are only mildy familiar with electronic music, I think if you show up and experience the festival and the afterparties that weekend, you'll be blown away at this musical subculture. So vibrant and the fans are so passionate, and so totally different than anything else you'll find in the USA.
Goddamn, just caught up a bit. Got a bit lost in the work I have to for this goddamn music blog but whatever. I said I'd have something else after my last post if I made it through, so here's a night version of my poster. Don't forget to vote for SoL and if you did in the past few rounds then I wanna thank y'all for who did!
Just out of curiosity, how much (if it all) do you think the "Art and Culture" and "Happenings" sections boost my lineup? I kinda felt like I was taking a risk and wasting free agent/superjam spots, but I think that going to a fest and seeing a Neil Gaiman reading or political roundtable with Bernie and Killer Mike would be REALLY fucking cool. And I didn't start this draft thinking I would have a superjam involving only four acts, but I think the Friends with Strangers superjam would be pretty awesome, to the extent a Billy Joel superjam could be. After picking Billy I regretted it somewhat so I wanted to make the most of it.
Just out of curiosity, how much (if it all) do you think the "Art and Culture" and "Happenings" sections boost my lineup? I kinda felt like I was taking a risk and wasting free agent/superjam spots, but I think that going to a fest and seeing a Neil Gaiman reading or political roundtable with Bernie and Killer Mike would be REALLY fucking cool. And I didn't start this draft thinking I would have a superjam involving only four acts, but I think the Friends with Strangers superjam would be pretty awesome, to the extent a Billy Joel superjam could be. After picking Billy I regretted it somewhat so I wanted to make the most of it.
Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing. Are people actually excited for some art installations or hear some artists, painters etc do a talk, workshop or nah.
I think it adds a certain extra dimension to a festival when there's actually more to do or see then "just" music but that depends from festival to festival, I think. But for a festival like 3post1jack1's that wouldn't really work apart from some art installations or something.
Just out of curiosity, how much (if it all) do you think the "Art and Culture" and "Happenings" sections boost my lineup? I kinda felt like I was taking a risk and wasting free agent/superjam spots, but I think that going to a fest and seeing a Neil Gaiman reading or political roundtable with Bernie and Killer Mike would be REALLY fucking cool. And I didn't start this draft thinking I would have a superjam involving only four acts, but I think the Friends with Strangers superjam would be pretty awesome, to the extent a Billy Joel superjam could be. After picking Billy I regretted it somewhat so I wanted to make the most of it.
For what it's worth, that Superjam is much cooler than people just tossing 20 of their best musicians on a stage and naming the jam a genre title. But, the happenings is not why I've been voting for you in previous rounds and voted for you in this round.
Just out of curiosity, how much (if it all) do you think the "Art and Culture" and "Happenings" sections boost my lineup? I kinda felt like I was taking a risk and wasting free agent/superjam spots, but I think that going to a fest and seeing a Neil Gaiman reading or political roundtable with Bernie and Killer Mike would be REALLY fucking cool. And I didn't start this draft thinking I would have a superjam involving only four acts, but I think the Friends with Strangers superjam would be pretty awesome, to the extent a Billy Joel superjam could be. After picking Billy I regretted it somewhat so I wanted to make the most of it.
I like the hip hop roundtable. Normally I don't care for those kinds of things. I wouldn't skip any music to see it.
I'd honestly be surprised if 3post1jack1 won just because a lot of participants regularly did not know who he was drafting. That doesn't mean his lineup is bad - how the fuck would I know since I didn't recognize a bunch of his lineup - but it is a big gamble being that focused on one genre. (See: sang_xcx's performance and his was better known and he eventually made an effort to diversify it.)
i can't speak specifically to why my fest has made it this far, but generally speaking I think hardcore live music fans like for a festival (1) to have a specific identity and (2) to offer acts that challenge their musical tastes, and I think these ideas go together. A specific festival identity makes potential attendees "trust" the festival more, even if a lot of the undercard is unrecognizable.
Think about how we used to react to Bonnaroo lineups, back when Bonnaroo was less like every other big festival. The lineup would drop, you see some headliners you like and some undercard acts you like, and likely a bunch of undercard acts you don't recognize. But because you trust Bonnaroo, you get excited about delving into all these unknown names, because you trust that Bonnaroo will offer you a creative, exciting, and wacky experience. You spend the ensuing months reading recommendations for artists, delving into their catalogs, and discovering new favorites. But since Bonnaroo has become more like other big fests we are less likely to trust an unrecognizable undercard.
Similarly festivals like D4N were generally beloved by Inforoo because it was a very specific and cool thing. It's not even really about genre monolithicity, more about an overall tone and "vibe" of the festival.
I like to draw parallels between two of my favorite festivals: Jazzfest and Movement. Genre-wise they couldn't be more different, but both festivals draw from the culture of the city they grew up in, and offer a unique festival experience you aren't going to find anywhere else. Many people that show up to Jazzfest for the first time do so for a specific big headliner or two, and couldn't know less about the rich undercard filled with local talent or international artists, but they will find themselves stepping into the gospel tent or walking by the jazz and heritage stage and going "holy shit this is incredible". It's so different than what they are used to, but the music is just so good that the attraction is undeniable.
Movement is the same way, even if people are only mildy familiar with electronic music, I think if you show up and experience the festival and the afterparties that weekend, you'll be blown away at this musical subculture. So vibrant and the fans are so passionate, and so totally different than anything else you'll find in the USA.
While all of that is true. Yours is a fictional festival with no history or ties to a community. What you have is an ass-ton electronic artists and a couple of known commodities. You're promoting it with a decidedly less produced poster than your competition.
My only point is that your success exceeded my expectations.
yo Bing i might of asked you this but where tf would you of had Tame on your lineup if you didn't trade me them?
You already did yeah The plan was to have them sub for Pink Floyd, haha but after a while I changed my mind cause I went almost full sixties/seventies on my mainstage with some big hitters like The Mamas & The Papas, Grand Funk Railroad, Steve Miller Band etc and then I just diversified it a little and put more alternative names like Serge Gainsbourg & Jane Birkin, Sigur Ros etc on my alternative based stage (tent), The Barn which made it easier for me to bill more recent bands rather than putting them way to high on the mainstage f.e. Florence + The Machine could actually play a day time slot cause she doesn't really makes use of any visuals and Tame Impala kinda depend on those for a big chunk of their show.
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The plan was to have them sub for Pink Floyd, haha but after a while I changed my mind cause I went almost full sixties/seventies on my mainstage with some big hitters like The Mamas & The Papas, Grand Funk Railroad, Steve Miller Band etc and then I just diversified it a little and put more alternative names like Serge Gainsbourg & Jane Birkin, Sigur Ros etc on my alternative based stage (tent), The Barn which made it easier for me to bill more recent bands rather than putting them way to high on the mainstage f.e. Florence + The Machine could actually play a day time slot cause she doesn't really makes use of any visuals and Tame Impala kinda depend on those for a big chunk of their show.