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Oh and re: Gucci Gang, I would be surprised if they get anything near a "prestige" slot. Sure Gucci and Pump enjoy quite a bit of name recognition, but look how far down the poster they are compared to where they'd be individually. It just doesn't look like an act GV is going to try to showcase. No music has even been released, they are on the fourth line of the poster, honestly more casual fans of Pump and Gucci might not even actually know its them the same way nobody really knew Justice was in Club 75. If a good slot shakes out naturally then sure, fine, but if they end up like DeJ Loaf on the outdoor, or like Russ/Uzi Vert at like 4:25 in the Sahara, I wouldn't be surprised. They don't even have a single for their project! Which (I think?) is unprecedented. I could see GV throwing them to the wolves if they need to. I don't think they will end up in the Mojave or anything smaller though.
I think after the whole "WHO IS GUCCI GANG??" thing when the lineup came out, a lot of people learned that it's Gucci, Pump and Purp. Gucci alone packed the hell out of the Sahara in 2017, and even though the Sahara is bigger, add on Lil Pump and they'll have a MASSIVE crowd, that I actually now think will be too big for even the current Mojave. Of course not too big for the current Sahara, but I can totally see Paul throwing them on the Main 2 years after giving Gucci solo a closing Sahara slot.
Who do you see going in that Main slot, but also being able to keep all of the huge rap names away from each other?
Gucci, Pump and Smoke have zero buzz. The first 2 dropping dud albums recently. Dont over exaggerate them doing the synergy thing. They’ll have a nice Sahara set in the sun around Zedd
Gucci packed the Sahara fresh out of jail with a drake assisted single and on Migos best album on his first ever tour. Recently him and smoke had to move their tour from the shrine to the Novo and still didn’t sell out
Not a fan but I saw Pump at a fest in Arizona a couple weeks ago. He had a good sized crowd. I think Gucci Gang is perfect for an early 4pm Main. But Sahara is probably likely.
Post by WhyTheLongFace on Mar 29, 2019 21:15:20 GMT -5
A mostly full Sahara if conflicts work out? Yeah. A crowd like Post or Migos or worthy of a prime main stage? HELL NO . I promise you no one cares lmaoo
The only Gucci Gang show currently scheduled is Coachella.
Yeah because they're probably too high to finish the project and so there's no point to book any other shows with no single, let alone video, let alone album. Coachella I'm sure chomped at the bit thinking they'd have music out by now.
The Gucci Mane hype has absolutely gone down. The biggest thing they have going for them at the moment is their namesake single by one of their members that came out at the end of summer 2017. Will people go to it? Sure. But with fourth line billing and no new music and no song released by any of them that's bigger than Gucci Gang from 2017 (Pump's 2019 singles all tanked), I really don't see this being a priority for GV to feature in 2019, not without new music.
I still stand by Sahara, and earlier than you're expecting.
The only Gucci Gang show currently scheduled is Coachella.
Yeah because they're probably too high to finish the project and so there's no point to book any other shows with no single, let alone video, let alone album. Coachella I'm sure chomped at the bit thinking they'd have music out by now.
The Gucci Mane hype has absolutely gone down. The biggest thing they have going for them at the moment is their namesake single by one of their members that came out at the end of summer 2017. Will people go to it? Sure. But with fourth line billing and no new music and no song released by any of them that's bigger than Gucci Gang from 2017 (Pump's 2019 singles all tanked), I really don't see this being a priority for GV to feature in 2019, not without new music.
I still stand by Sahara, and earlier than you're expecting.
The hype isn't around "Gucci Gang" as a group name though. We already know that droves of people at Coachella will show up for Gucci Mane solo, so add Lil Pump to that and you've got a much bigger crowd than when Gucci packed out the 2017 Sahara. As I've said, of course they can fit in there, but I do think it makes more sense to move Gucci Mane out when he closed it last time.
We just need a better way to figure out better places for the big rap acts to go, and IMO putting Gucci Gang on the Main in that slot is the easiest solution for that.
A mostly full Sahara if conflicts work out? Yeah. A crowd like Post or Migos or worthy of a prime main stage? HELL NO . I promise you no one cares lmaoo
No, they wont draw Migos or Post numbers, of course. But my argument isn't that they CAN'T play the Sahara, but rather it makes more sense for them not to since 1. Gucci solo closed the Sahara to a packed tent 2 years ago, 2. It provides the easiest solution to fix the issue with the huge number of high billed/hugely popular rap acts this day.
One rap act has to take that Gucci Gang Main slot, and it's either YG (billed too high) or Playboi (more reasonable than YG, but arguably still billed too high). Out of those 3, Gucci Gang really does make a lot of sense.
Last year, Kyle and Vance Joy played the Main in the slot we have Gucci Gang scheduled for, and neither of them drew as many people as Gucci Gang will.
Post by WhyTheLongFace on Mar 30, 2019 1:17:44 GMT -5
YG is getting the main. Carti could get it over YG but I doubt it. I’m 100% confident Gucci Gang will NOT get main. It makes zero sense.
They’re a damn “supergroup” that hasn’t had a hit in 19 months and has had 2 hits in the last 9 years. Gucci’s return was why that set was packed. It was a big thing. Now? Not so much. Pump can’t even carry the weight cause he flopped. Purrp is more known for getting jumped than his music.
Post by gibsonguy20 on Mar 31, 2019 9:02:36 GMT -5
Caught some social media videos from the Perfume performance in NYC last night. Based on the elaborate stage show for their US tour, I’d be willing to bet they close one of the tents against Ariana. They have movable screens, in addition to a similar layout which mirrors what Flying Lotus has been touring with for the last few years. I’m really glad to see this, because I was worried they were going to get bumped to a mid afternoon Sahara slot a few weeks ago.
Caught some social media videos from the Perfume performance in NYC last night. Based on the elaborate stage show for their US tour, I’d be willing to bet they close one of the tents against Ariana. They have movable screens, in addition to a similar layout which mirrors what Flying Lotus has been touring with for the last few years. I’m really glad to see this, because I was worried they were going to get bumped to a mid afternoon Sahara slot a few weeks ago.
I actually totally agree with this. I had Perfume closing the Gobi at one point, but that got shot down because people thought they shouldn't conflict with Ariana. I have zero problem having them as the Gobi closer.
Do you really see Paul T putting this shitshow on the main stage? Just out of principle?
They had Cardi B on the Main last year, I don't see your point.
Are you talking Atlantic Records biggest act behind Bruno Mars who the label put millions into her album after a number 1 single and had it debuted right before Coachella? NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS GROUP. Throw them mid day in the Sahara for a quick party. Gucci Gang wasn’t even bigger or more recent than unforgettable and at least French had a catalog of hits and still got Sahara before dark.
They had Cardi B on the Main last year, I don't see your point.
Are you talking Atlantic Records biggest act behind Bruno Mars who the label put millions into her album after a number 1 single and had it debuted right before Coachella? NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS GROUP. Throw them mid day in the Sahara for a quick party. Gucci Gang wasn’t even bigger or more recent than unforgettable and at least French had a catalog of hits and still got Sahara before dark.
Lil Pump sucks but that doesn't negate his fan base. Him and Gucci are big enough to justify an early main slot 3/4pm start. Not saying it WILL happen, but it wouldn't be crazy if it did.
YG is getting the main. Carti could get it over YG but I doubt it. I’m 100% confident Gucci Gang will NOT get main. It makes zero sense.
They’re a damn “supergroup” that hasn’t had a hit in 19 months and has had 2 hits in the last 9 years. Gucci’s return was why that set was packed. It was a big thing. Now? Not so much. Pump can’t even carry the weight cause he flopped. Purrp is more known for getting jumped than his music.
Do you think the Coachella crowd cares if Pumps latest album flopped? Hell no, they're going to show up in droves just so they can instagram him playing Gucci Gang. Plus Gucci Mane, there is no reason why they couldn't play the Main.
Again, it will be Gucci Gang or Playboi in that Main slot, otherwise we're back to the same 'big rap acts' issue. Pick your poison.
I agree on paper Gucci Gang in the Sahara probably makes the most sense, but not as much in reality considering the other acts we're working with on this day. But if i'm alone here should we then put Playboi on the Main in that slot instead?
Carti on the Main doesn't make sense. Cartier is the biggest rap lock for the Sahara. Its the perfect size for him in a night slot. If any rapper is getting a semi-prime slot on the Main its YG, and IF any other rapper is getting an early slot outside it's Gucci Gang. The others toggle between Mojave or Sahara. Imo it should be YG evening Outdoor, Carti night Sahara, Gucci Gang early Main, Pusha T night Mojave, SOBxRBE early/evening Mojave, Rico Nasty can fall in a few spots early in the day. (Kanye morning???)
