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HOW THE FUCKING FUCK DO YOU NOT HAVE HIM ON SUICIDE WATCH
It was his second attempt, suicide watch doesn’t catch everything
As someone who has kicked in a bathroom stall door to take a belt around a patient's neck, I can second this. Anyone who is determined to kill themselves will be able to do it over a long enough timetable.
It was his second attempt, suicide watch doesn’t catch everything
As someone who has kicked in a bathroom stall door to take a belt around a patient's neck, I can second this. Anyone who is determined to kill themselves will be able to do it over a long enough timetable.
Wasnt he on suicide watch? What does that entail? There are plenty of mechanics that are put in place for psych patients at risk of self harm.
It was his second attempt, suicide watch doesn’t catch everything
As someone who has kicked in a bathroom stall door to take a belt around a patient's neck, I can second this. Anyone who is determined to kill themselves will be able to do it over a long enough timetable.
If Jeffrey Epstein is on suicide watch and he has access to a belt or a closed bathroom door/moment of privacy, that's gross incompetence
As someone who has kicked in a bathroom stall door to take a belt around a patient's neck, I can second this. Anyone who is determined to kill themselves will be able to do it over a long enough timetable.
If Jeffrey Epstein is on suicide watch and he has access to a belt or a closed bathroom door/moment of privacy, that's gross incompetence
Im not sure what it entails in an adult jail though I'm sure we will hear about the details in the coming days. There is only so much that can be taken away from adults in an effort to comply with their rights.
The bathroom story wasn't meant to be illustrative of what I expected his current conditions to be. I meant it more as that suicide watch isn't an abstract idea to me and that there is always only so much you can do. That patient had been on suicide watch formerly but lied long enough and well enough to get off it and get privileges back because he couldn't figure out how to make it happen on watch.
If Jeffrey Epstein is on suicide watch and he has access to a belt or a closed bathroom door/moment of privacy, that's gross incompetence
Im not sure what it entails in an adult jail though I'm sure we will hear about the details in the coming days. There is only so much that can be taken away from adults in an effort to comply with their rights.
The bathroom story wasn't meant to be illustrative of what I expected his current conditions to be. I meant it more as that suicide watch isn't an abstract idea to me and that there is always only so much you can do. That patient had been on suicide watch formerly but lied long enough and well enough to get off it and get privileges back because he couldn't figure out how to make it happen on watch.
This is the gold standard of federal detention facilities. Literally everything in a suicide watch situation, down to the prisoner's clothes and bedding, is designed to be impossible to hang yourself with
You know what. Maybe I sorta am. There's no reason to believe some of the most powerful people on the planet couldn't get to him.
Im not usually one for conspiracy theories but things like this do test that.
Why I'm not too wild about this is we don't live in a just society to begin with and none of these elites were likely to go down for anything. Hell it took for fucking ever for Epstein to. About the worst that would happen for them is having to pay civil fees if they were sued. Maybe they'd get some bullshit sentence like Epstein's original one. Where they get "work leave" and their own TV room in jail.
It's a fucking joke.
The big thing at our current political moment is that the public is paying a lot more attention. So that ups the stakes.
As someone who has kicked in a bathroom stall door to take a belt around a patient's neck, I can second this. Anyone who is determined to kill themselves will be able to do it over a long enough timetable.
Wasnt he on suicide watch? What does that entail? There are plenty of mechanics that are put in place for psych patients at risk of self harm.
Funny thing about suicide watch, it's just heightened being watched, but no one can say it's 100% all the time; I've seen guards cycle out, or just sit outside the room (which from someone who struggles with it, knows that is a prime opportunity).
Saying that he did decide on suicide, his time in the hole and the guilt COULD have finally added up and unless he was on 24hr watch - he could get this done. On the other hand, I smell fishiness in this that can't be proven out in anyway at the moment.
You know what. Maybe I sorta am. There's no reason to believe some of the most powerful people on the planet couldn't get to him.
Didn't a bunch of documents or some other new info just get released/uncovered or something? I read a few headlines that mentioned names and testimony from some accusers. The timing of this right after news about names is interesting to say the least.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Aug 10, 2019 11:56:12 GMT -5
I don't know. More details about more names coming out. Could see it making powerful people heighten the priority and pace of taking him out and covering it all up. If AG Barr is the one who is going to investigate this we already know how that will go.
You know what. Maybe I sorta am. There's no reason to believe some of the most powerful people on the planet couldn't get to him.
Didn't a bunch of documents or some other new info just get released/uncovered or something? I read a few headlines that mentioned names and testimony from some accusers. The timing of this right after news about names is interesting to say the least.
"Virginia Giuffre, who says that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked her to powerful people for erotic massages and sex, claimed in depositions in 2016 that Maxwell directed her to have sex with former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Britain’s Prince Andrew (whom she has accused before), wealthy financier Glenn Dubin, former senator George Mitchell, now-deceased MIT scientist Marvin Minsky, and modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, as well as “another prince,” a "foreign president," a well-known prime minsiter" and the owner of a “large hotel chain” in France. "
I don’t think the documents being unsealed means anything in terms of timing. It was gonna happen anyway and had been attempted before.
If you're referring to the prior attempt that's not 100% official. Epstein himself claimed to have been beaten up and called a "child predator". He could have been lying to try to avoid monitoring or it could have been an attempt at getting transferred. Regardless, the story surrounding the prior attempt hasn't been settled either.