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At my friends funeral yesterday, there was a Latino guy there with a bright red Trump 2024 shirt. This was in the valley near Harlingen, so right against the border of Mexico. I also drove passed a huge Trump Take Back America sign off the side of the road. Needless to say, the Latino support for Trump hasn't changed in the last few years.
I see a lot of parallels with 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants of today as I do with Baby Boomers (many of which were 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants)
Feeling more and more likely that either Trump or Biden will croak before the election, either to bad health or assassination. Things definitely are only going to crazier from here on out.
You know, I had been in a good mood lately too. Had a trip to Ohio, got to spend time with friends. My birthday is next week. Feel like life is good again. That not everything sucks.
And now here's a stark reminder that the world is really just shit. And there's no real point to life besides suffering. It's mind blowing how many people in our country are OK with being run by a con artist, rapist, narcissistic maniac. That Project 2025 is a-ok. Like, how are enough people on board with this shit? How did this become unstoppable?
While I can't argue with someone saying their personal life is shit, as everyone's personal situation is unique, I do want to offer a rebuttal on how the world is not actually shit.
First, just in terms of this event: in American history, the remarkable thing isn't that this happened but that it's been so long since it did. There were assassinations or serious assassination attempts on Presidents or Presidential candidates in 1865, 1881, 1901, 1912, 1933, 1950, 1963, 1968, 1972, 1975 (twice), and 1981...it's been 43 years since the last one in America. We're living in remarkably safe times for elected officials.
More broadly: the world has never been better in most ways that matter to people. Life expectancy is at an all time high. The global poverty rate is at an all time low. The global literacy rate is at an all time high. Humans work fewer hours than ever. LGBT folks and minorities have never had more rights in more countries. Divorce rates are lower than at any point since the 70s. Crime rates in the US are at 40 year lows. We created a vaccine to fight a global pandemic in under a year! We have the entire world at our fingertips, which is terrible in terms of the mental effects of the internet, but also means we have never had more quality access to cuisines from across the globe. Our politics feel fucked, our government feels broken, and yet the last 3.5 years have seen that same government (at least the parts of it we vote for) offer a ton of significant progress to people.
Not saying everything's perfect or everything's good. Climate change in particular is a massive cloud hanging over every piece of that progress. But it is okay to think back on your trip to Ohio, the time you spent with friends, look forward to your birthday, and feel like life is good. Because for most people in the world, it's really never been better, and it is not only acceptable but necessary to appreciate that, particularly in your own small personal world.
Don't let the internet and the barrage of world events - which, again, are not actually that remarkable or uniquely bad in the scope of the last century of human existence - prevent you from living and appreciating your life. That's just letting the bad guys (Elon?) win.
Post by braundiggity on Jul 14, 2024 12:43:01 GMT -5
Also while my initial gut reaction yesterday was "this wins Trump the election," after a few hours of thought I'm no longer as worried about it (and it does help that the shooter was a republican who took his dad's gun).
Maybe if this had happened at the end of October. But man, we have such short attention spans these days, and we're so deeply polarized that I'm not sure anything single event matters too much. Same reason I'm not that worried about the debate for Biden. If he or whoever the Democratic nominee is spends the back half of October pounding the message, I think we can still win.
yea as much as I was hoping the shooter was a republican, it's pretty obvious he was a liberal or leftist who tried to false flag. He donated to a progressive PAC in 2021 at 17 but he registered as a republican at 18.
yea as much as I was hoping the shooter was a republican, it's pretty obvious he was a liberal or leftist who tried to false flag. He donated to a progressive PAC in 2021 at 17 but he registered as a republican at 18.
I would agree if he'd just recently changed his registration, but he registered as a republican nearly three years ago. Unless you think he's been planning this since 2021. I’ve seen at least one high school classmate describe him as right leaning.
It's really not that wild to think a 17 year old would change their politics that dramatically over three years, particularly given how those three years have gone. And realistically, those politics were probably not really settled or rational one way or another.
Post by braundiggity on Jul 14, 2024 13:16:12 GMT -5
Not that I've seen, at least in any verifiable way. I've seen some redditors comment that he'd posted concerns about pedophilia or something, but I can't find any actual sourcing on that. The NY Times article about him is mostly just people expressing shock, with one classmate saying his views seemed "slightly right leaning."
He appears to be the only 20 year old on the planet with no social media presence (that we know of so far). Either that or the only 20 year old on the planet smart enough to delete their social media presence.
Has any new info been confirmed besides donated to a left wing SuperPAC and is registered as a Republican?? Or is this just speculation right now
that's all we have, no social media has been found yet. I did see something reported that the area surrounding his home was blocked for secret service to conduct a wide search
edit: oh also explosives were found in the gunmans car
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jul 14, 2024 13:20:55 GMT -5
I see something about him being in a blackrock ad but don't know if there's any truth there yet. Definitely misinformation everywhere. There's a fake video from a troll/someone else that's being passed around as legit by folks
To think a successful assassination on a former president in todays hyper surveillance society nearly happened is insane. There’s probably hundred attempts a year that we never hear about that secret service and CIA take care of but not only did this one happen, if it wasn’t for the wind, it probably would have been successful. I would not be surprised Trump hires a whole new security detail. Or croaks from the stress of this one attempt. The stress of thinking you may be killed anytime you step outside has to do something to his (and Biden too) deteriorating health.
yea as much as I was hoping the shooter was a republican, it's pretty obvious he was a liberal or leftist who tried to false flag. He donated to a progressive PAC in 2021 at 17 but he registered as a republican at 18.
I would agree if he'd just recently changed his registration, but he registered as a republican nearly three years ago. Unless you think he's been planning this since 2021. I’ve seen at least one high school classmate describe him as right leaning.
It's really not that wild to think a 17 year old would change their politics that dramatically over three years, particularly given how those three years have gone. And realistically, those politics were probably not really settled or rational one way or another.
Yeah. Wouldn't be shocking for someone in this age group to have evolving, inconsistent or incoherent political beliefs.
yea as much as I was hoping the shooter was a republican, it's pretty obvious he was a liberal or leftist who tried to false flag. He donated to a progressive PAC in 2021 at 17 but he registered as a republican at 18.
I would agree if he'd just recently changed his registration, but he registered as a republican nearly three years ago. Unless you think he's been planning this since 2021. I’ve seen at least one high school classmate describe him as right leaning.
It's really not that wild to think a 17 year old would change their politics that dramatically over three years, particularly given how those three years have gone. And realistically, those politics were probably not really settled or rational one way or another.
to be fair a lot of far leftists including myself get confused to be Republicans all the time by other liberals.
mostly bc we probably talk a lot of shit about Obama/Clintons/Bidens and a lot of us are pro gun due to not trusting police and the ruling class.
lmao I mean my dad who is a classic Obama era liberal thinks I'm a conservative bc I hang out with a lot of white ppl and dosent understand wtf socialism is when I talk about it
Post by kingvamp999wrld on Jul 14, 2024 13:48:05 GMT -5
Also there's even been times where I considered registering as a republican as a protest to the Democratic party but would still vote for them at the end of the day.
I also would rather see Trump win then most other career Republicans because at the end of the day, Trump isn't even a real conservative so if I had vote in a republican primary I'd easily go with Trump
At my friends funeral yesterday, there was a Latino guy there with a bright red Trump 2024 shirt. This was in the valley near Harlingen, so right against the border of Mexico. I also drove passed a huge Trump Take Back America sign off the side of the road. Needless to say, the Latino support for Trump hasn't changed in the last few years.
yea this really sucks bc I see it a lot with extended family and I really sturggle with the question of is it just a loud minority of Latinos or is it really a bunch and I'm really not sure.
Something in Chicago I'm seeing is the police department is very quickly becoming less and less white like most news cops are Latinos but it's also like the worst ones becoming cops. mostly gang affiliated people and they are still pushing a white supremacist hyper capitalist agenda that a all white police force would do.
sometimes when I hear my fam talk bad about Trump I truly wonder if they don't like Trump bc he's obviously anti Latino or if they don't like him bc he is an extension of harmful policy ahhhh
yea as much as I was hoping the shooter was a republican, it's pretty obvious he was a liberal or leftist who tried to false flag. He donated to a progressive PAC in 2021 at 17 but he registered as a republican at 18.
I would agree if he'd just recently changed his registration, but he registered as a republican nearly three years ago. Unless you think he's been planning this since 2021. I’ve seen at least one high school classmate describe him as right leaning.
It's really not that wild to think a 17 year old would change their politics that dramatically over three years, particularly given how those three years have gone. And realistically, those politics were probably not really settled or rational one way or another.
This. I am not as extreme but I went from "libertarian" and "why can't gays be ok with civil unions" to "democrats aren't liberal enough" and voting yes for gay marriage in my state (pre-marriage equality) within 2 years. Could easily see someone swing from blue to red in 3 years now.
If he had changed his affiliation during the primaries to vote for Haley, then I'd see the possible false flag op.
If this was a plan since 2021 I can't imagine: A. A 18 year old being that subversive to lay that groundwork Or B. Going under FBI radar for that long
To think a successful assassination on a former president in todays hyper surveillance society nearly happened is insane. There’s probably hundred attempts a year that we never hear about that secret service and CIA take care of but not only did this one happen, if it wasn’t for the wind, it probably would have been successful. I would not be surprised Trump hires a whole new security detail. Or croaks from the stress of this one attempt. The stress of thinking you may be killed anytime you step outside has to do something to his (and Biden too) deteriorating health.
That head turn to the immigration chart on the screen was what did it. If he is standing there like almost everyone usually does for 99% of the time looking straight forward then it wouldve happened.
Either nobody gets to campaign outdoors or this guy is gonna right back at it to show all the idiots he is the ultimate human.
Post by kingvamp999wrld on Jul 14, 2024 15:40:23 GMT -5
if it makes anyone feel better just scrolling through my ig the same ppl that are posting how cool Trump is now for getting shot are the same ppl that either
1: Can't vote due to felonies
2: Have never voted ever and probably won't start
So as dems push the abortion issue bc that's probably the hottest issue rn where they shine in I think there still a shot Biden could win but it's gonna be real fucking close